TTC after recurrent miscarriage thread 2 - we're not giving up

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Hey Miami and Anne - hope you are both feeling better today! It's an up and down time early pregnancy, esp after recurrent miscarriage. Feeling physically rubbish doesn't help (I hate bloat, it's the worst feeling).

Is you scan tomorrow Miami?

Keep going with the meds and hold on until the next scans - they will be here soon! You are both doing all you can, you really cannot do any more! I'm hopeful for you both.

@Hopefulforarainbow - I sorry about your test results, I understand the worry about trying again without knowing the reason for your miscarriages. Are you considering taking low-dose aspirin next time anyway? Like you, I have no reason for rmc, so I am in an ambiguous position. I have not started investigations though - I am putting it off. The thought of tests, meds, consultants and appointments at rmc clinics stresses me out. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, it does make it easier to navigate if and when the time comes. Your post about planning around miscarriage struck a cord @Miami - I have already started to plan around next mmc, and I am not even pregnant yet! It is a fucked up way at planning life!

Well, my AF has been and gone. Surprisingly normal - even on the 'light' side. A little spotting later on, which isn't normal though. I am now pondering about what to do ttc wise this month.

For now - I have been enjoying my overpriced peppermint tea (a cup every day ) and my first acupuncture consultation is tomorrow. I've also restarted yoga, which I've put on the back burner. I'm taking an alternative approach going forward, then if the next pregnancy doesn't stick I will get the ball rolling with medical intervention. I can't help regretting that I didn't ttcing earlier.

I've not tried crystals yet @AnneLovesGilbert, but they have become popular lately! I wonder if there is anything in it?

I am away for the weekend with DH, just the two of us where we can hopefully shag a lot without a care in the word! And drink too much nice - (going to France). I'll take the fertility tea bags with me . I am going to try and put down the phone and not connect with the world too much.

Hope that the deadlines are going to be met Anne and that you are enjoying FW week @TaylsN I hope I won't be far behind you!

@CurlyTwirlyTwos good luck for FW, enjoy your break away and fertility teas, as you said nothing lost by trying it.

@Miami81 hope all goes ok tomorrow. Got everything crossed for you lovely.

@Munchies 89 how are you getting on? Where about's in cycle are you? Feel free not to chat about it if you're trying not to think about it too much. How are you feeling now? Hopefully the down days have passed and you're feeling more positive.

Hoping all spotting has dies down @AnneLovesGilbert and @Miami81, I'm a constant knicker checker to the point I have to put the bathroom light on if I go for a wee at night so I can check there's no slight tinge on the tissue!

@Hopefulforourrainbow I'm so sorry these second bloods didn't give a clearer picture. Being in limbo with no answers is so tough. Do you think you'll take the aspirin anyways? I took it this time just so I felt like I was doing something different. Will they give you cyclogest?
Definitely pursue the complaint, that guy was awful and needs a lesson in how to speak with other humans.

One thing that I've been pondering is that this time I took the vitamin B6 until BFP, which is exactly what I did with my DS. Maybe a coincidence......and I'm not counting my chickens yet but its something that's sticking in my head at the moment. Just my random current musings.

Hi @LabMum sorry I've been a little quiet, still checking here everday to see how you all are and keeping fingers crossed that the pregnancies are going well.
I'm doing a little better thanks, I think I finally ovulated about 4 days ago so will wait and see what happens in the next 10 days or so. Would be great if it's finally our month-trying to think positively but not getting hopes up that it'll happen this month.
Our puppy has been keeping us busy and very sleep deprived....He keeps waking up at 4am so haven't slept well in the last 2 weeks.
It's funny you mention about the b6 as I haven't took any of my vitamins since my last pregnancy and this has been the longest time we've had without falling pregnant. Maybe I should dig them out tonight and start taking so I'm prepared for future months.

Thank you. Yes I plan to take aspirin anyway. I doubt they'd give me cyclogest at this stage. I haven't heard about vitamin B6 before. That's interesting. Think I might give that a go too! Have you ladies any other recommendations? I'm undecided about starting acupuncture again. The lady I went to was a bit weird so if I do go will try someone new. It's unfortunate it's so expensive!
I hope the spotting has stopped Anne & Miami. Have a lovely weekend away curly. Fertility tea bags??

Sending love and support @Miami81, let us know how it goes.

Had tiny bit of the same brown watery stuff yesterday but only once and no pains at all and nothing this morning, despite (very gently!) DTD and feeling good

Work is crazy but keeping my mind off things. 7 weeks today.

Is it worth trying a different acupuncture person @Hopefulforourrainbow? If you liked the treatment but not the practitioner. I love mine so much but I had a similar thing with reflexology the year before. Liked the sessions but she was awful after one of my mcs - awkward, glib, just mega cringe and made me feel like crap - so I stopped seeing her.

That's good you ovulated @Munchies89 are you temping? Sorry about your puppy woes If you're happy taking vitamins then it's definitely worth doing. I rattle these days and it makes me feel like I'm doing what I can! At the moment I'm hoping to balance out the toxic meds I'm full of. Though I have to say I'm getting on very well with the roids, my skin has never looked better after two years of hormonal disruption caused by many pregnancies and infections and general upset, my sleeping has stabilised again and I'm still having bouts of extra energy but the peaks and troughs have levelled.

What made you start the B6 @Labmum? Interesting to hear your thoughts. The B bits are fascinating. I have injected B12 as I don't absorb it from food or supplements and find it such a hormone leveller.

Glad things are generally feeling better for you. Where are you at now with appointments and next scan? It's so nice to have you and other recent joiners with us. Do you know about the Fresh start thread in pregnancy?

Good to hear AF was okay @CurlyTwirlyTwos and let us know how your acupuncture goes today! With my first session we went through all my history and while I'd done a quick outline by email beforehand to check off the headlines so I wouldn't have to talk about it all and face the sad face, I absolutely sobbed. One of the things I get from it is just being able to talk, to someone who no agenda, who is only there for me. It's like 50/50 counselling/needling! They're there to help you so let it all out I was also spacey as hell for the rest of the day which still happens occasionally so take it easy. I can send you some crystal stuff if you like. They're pretty and can't do any harm so why not! Rose quartz is one of the main ones, female energy, healing, fertility and abundance. You could get a heart shaped one and pop it on your pocket or bra, handbag or under your pillow. Enjoy your French shagathon

@Miami81 We are all behind you sending hand holds.

Hi ladies
So not wonderful news for us this morning. Pregnancy is measuring behind by a bit and heartbeat is slow. So now we are in a waiting game. Go back in two weeks to see what is happening. We are trying to stay positive but it's very hard when faced with this news.
I'm probably going to be a bit quiet for a few days whilst I take it in.

@Miami81 I'm so so sorry to hear this. Be kind to yourself, take care my lovely and we are all here should you need a hand to hold or a shoulder to cry on. Do whatever you need to do to get through this next couple of weeks. huge hugs

@AnneLovesGilbert and @hopefulforourrainbow the B6 I initially took with my little boy as after my first miscarriage my cycles went really wonky, I was ovulating later and later in my cycle and I'd read that a higher dose of B6 can help with that (50mg). This time I basically still had a load in the cupboard and thought its worth a try as its the only thing I did different with DS so gave it a go.

My nerves are starting to build up again about next week. Only 6 more sleeps until next scan (or more likely less than that with this dreaded insomnia that's plaguing me!)

Oh @Miami81 Sending you all the love, to both of you.

But it is in there, in the right place and its little heart is beating. Don't give up hope.

Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this Miami. I really hope all will be ok. It's a horrible wait. Remember we're all here for you whenever you need us.
That's really interesting about B6. Think I'll give it a go. Where did you buy it?

@Hopefulforourrainbow I got it from an online company called healthspan. Have a look into it, it can have side effects if taken for long periods and could affect your cycle so you may want to use OPKs to make sure you can track ovulation in case it changes your cycle.

Thank you. I usually use OPK anyway. When do you start taking it?

@hopefulforourrainbow I took it from first day of my period until I got a BFP. I've read of some people taking it through pregnancy but my pregnacare has it in (just not at as high a dose).

I'm on CD1 so will skip this cycle but might buy some for next. I took Agnus castus/chasteberry fruit before too. First month taking it I got bfp. A few of my friends who had struggled to get pregnant too took it and conceived the next cycle. One has gone on to have a healthy baby and the other is 26 weeks now. It's hard to know what to do for the best. I think I'm going to try to get a reflexology appointment for next week and go fortnightly, take Agnus castus again, seven seas trying for baby and lose some weight! Feeling much better about things now and think we'll start trying when on holiday in September.

Sounds like a good plan @Hopefulforourrainbow Enjoy reflexology, anything that helps you relax and feel like you’re looking after yourself has got to be good.

I have started brown spotting today. Fuck it anyway. The weird thing is that it is actually my stomach that is sore, not my pelvic area at all. They did mention a hematoma at the scan on Friday and said not to be surprised by bleeding, but seriously!! I am just assuming that this is it. Because really, with my luck, it's very unlikely to be anything other than a bad outcome.
This one is on the left side of the septum which I think is actually my first ever left ovary pregnancy, so that's good, I thought that one didn't work at all!! But it appears that the blood supply isn't any better on the left side.
We have the appt tomorrow with our consultant, I am assuming we still go just to see what she has to say. Supposed to be starting the heparin, but again if I am already miscarrying there seems very little point to that.
I'm so sad and angry. I feel like I have spent the 9/10 months since dd died listening to doctors giving me the runaround. The septum could and should have been removed months ago. Instead we are very likely to be in London next month spending £4K to get it done privately because now we really don't have the time to wait for the nhs to sort it out. So that's £4K that is supposed to be Mat leave money, just gone.

Oh Miami. Do you think they might scan you tomorrow to see? Or do bloods? I'm sorry you're having such a shitty time. I don't think there's anything any of us can say to make you feel better except we're here for lots of virtual hand holding and hugs ❤

Thinking of you @Miami81 hope they give you a reassurance scan today and everything is fine xx

Sorry for th delay @AnnelovesGilbert. No I don't temp, I've got the stuff to temp but I've never tried as such a rubbish sleeper.
That's good how the steroids have affected you, since TTC in Febraury 2017 my face has been a spotty mess that I can never seem to control, I know it's definitely hormones but it's far worse than I ever had it as a teenager. Oh and facial hair....don't even get me started on that lol x

@Miami81 I'm so so sorry. How is the spotting today? Do you think you could ring and ask them to rescan after a week so you're not in limbo for quite so long? Or head along to the EPU and see what they say? Have you rang and spoken to the London doctor?
We're here if you need us, sending lots of hugs, take care lovely lady.

I am sat in the hospital pharmacy shaking. Our consultant did a tvg scan this morning and dates and heartbeat all look good. Feels surreal.

Long way to go but today I am successfully pregnant. Thanks so much ladies.

So glad to hear that @Miami. What did consultant say? Have you a plan?

Hello
I don’t usually post on forums but think I need a bit of moral support and you seem like a lovely bunch! I’ve had two miscarriages this year, after the second one my gp did some tests and all was clear. Last month I’m sure that I had a chemical pregnancy, we were on holiday so I resisted testing, as in a way I felt better not knowing for sure. This weelend I got a bfp, immediately followed by brown spotting. I was trying to stay positive that this wasn’t necessarily a bad sign but then this morning on my way to work I’ve had bright red blood. I feel just absolutely gutted right now and have had to phone in sick after bursting into tears at the train station. We have two children already so it seems unlikely there’s something going on but at the same time surely there’s something underlying happening and I’m thinking I should ask for a referral. This is an absolutely pointless post but has made me feel slightly better for getting it off my chest, I’m trying to stay strong but this all just feels rubbish!

I am starting on the heparin and progesterone today. Keeping up the aspirin. Back next week. We will be seeing a lot of her.