TTC after MC April 07 - Return to the Mother Ship

[popsy76]

Hi Ladies, thought I would just grab the bull by the proverbial horns and get this going. Hope the name is okay. MrsMc I am afraid we will all be thinking of you and your DH (and his light saber) everytime we post

Too many individual posts to go back and answer so I thought I'd start with a positive message for all of us from the March thread and for any MC newbies...

Today is my 1 month MN anniversary and I do not know what I would have done without you all. It is the ability to get on here and "let it all out" that keeps me going. I have been blessed to have found you all and whatever lies in my future - your kindness and advice will stay with me forever.

Big Love and Hip hip hooray for a fabulous new positive thread POPSY xxxx

p.s. Gilly get your arse down to london - we can drink the bars dry of Rose (purely medicinal of course )

Hi Torres have you been training with MrsMc? You are so wise! I am planning on Benny Hill month to be fair just in case my hormones are not back to normal yet (and my friend tried for 11 months before thinking SOD IT and stopped "trying" she had sex the day after AF and not again and was PG ha ha)
All that action should also help towards the elimination of the jelly belly regime
I was in T K Max on Saturday and tried on loads of jeans, most wouldn't come up over my thighs and if they did, there was a roll of belly poking out over my knix that was all puckered ughhh was totally FOUL. I have decided to concentrate on getting rid of aformentionned belly roll and generally being gorgeous so that a PG can come along and scupper my plans
How are you doing Torres? If you need some help with your Benny Hill moments get yourself to Tallulah off Upper st. I bought some knickers that made me blush but I thought is all in a good cause... (they have pearls strung between the waist band and ) Lucky Lucky DH - I can imagine the headlines now "desperate thirtysomething hospitalised with intimate rope burn in frenzied 5 day marathon baby making attempt"

popsy I am crying with laughter, infact snorting!! All attempts at pretending to be working have gone out the window- my cover is blown!! I will reply when I've had a glass of water- you've set me off choking!!

herby: I'm shocked that they haven't already referred you to a consultant! I have a US medical background (although not in obs/gyn, although my father is one), and am often bewildered by socialized medicine. You are surely one case which merits specialist care. I know that the cost is high, but have you thought about initially seeing someone privately?

MrsMcJr: It ain't over till the fat AF sings. I tested negative (with a Clearblue!) for the first two months of my first pregnancy.

popsy: Hilarious! But, why is it always the woman who has to do most of the enticement? With all the BDing I've put in over the past 4 months, I need some kind of enticement.

I'm in limbo land. I'm either at the beginning of the tww, or the end of the tww based on the two OPK positives. I know I'm supposed to wait for two weeks after the second OPK, but I seriously have to stop myself from veering into Boots. I actually went in yesterday and picked up a pregnancy test, but was too annoyed by the queue to buy it. I WILL NOT TEST EARLY. I WILL NOT TEST EARLY. I WILL NOT TEST EARLY........

After my fourth m/c I went to see a man on Harley Street, who didn't believe all my m/cs could be down to chromosone stuff. But maybe they were, as it turns out. That's the problem, isn't it - when they're private, you don't know who to believe, or who to go and see.

After this ERPC I asked the doctor about miscarriage clinics in the hospital, stuff like that, and eventually got handed an appointment card with 30 June written in it. I don't know if it's for a clinic, or a consultant, or what, and anyway 30 June is a Saturday! AND is far too long away...

I don't even know if I should ask the hospital for a referral, if so which department, or go to the GP, but it takes two weeks to get an appointment and even then I may as well talk to a bunch of radish for the amount of sense I get.

But yes, Popsy et al. It's a bit much when we have to do all the worrying about the whole pregnancy thing AND chase one's fella around in scanties. Just have to hope the 'right time' falls on a weekend where much wine is drunk!

This is a very stupid question.
I never actually planned it when I got PG so don't really know and I feel like a silly teenager, but here goes...
when in the month do you actually get pregnant? I keep looking on the internet but am finding confusing advice and I don't know when I should be planning fabulous spontaneous nookie

Ellie you are in the company of expert reproducers. Go on the pregancy website and there is an ovulation calculator where you can put your dates in and will tell you when to get to it so to speak (is usually 14 days before your next period expected). Can also watch your cervical mucus (ahem!) which should be egg whitey (double ahem).

morning you have now excited hundreds of women - we will all be hoping that we too are testing BFN even though PG arghhhh (maybe my jelly belly is actually PG and not over-consumption of self-medication Torres?)

I agree that not fair we have to do the chasing but needs must...and the saucy pants drive!
p.s. on that note did anyone see the surrendered wives programme last night????

www.babycenter.com i think Ellie

Hi popsy- I think I have just about regained control! I will be awaiting your appearance on London Tonight. Spooky- I actually live about a 20 minute walk from Tallulah and have never been in- it looks lovely (it?s opposite the shop where I bought my wedding dress). Of course, now I will be giggling demonically if I do go in- I will also be scouring upper street looking for someone walking as if they had rope burn!

Your DH is far far luckier than mine, he got the genuine benny hill I?m afraid- I have conjunctivitis so have been wearing my glasses, had unwashed hair and was wearing the oldest t shirt and track suit bottoms imaginable (Hmm.. wonder why he wasn?t so keen). Maybe I will also have to invest in some fancy undies. He is already asking when we can stop bding- and I have told him not until it becomes physically impossible (this may infact be soon- far from bouncing round from a reinvigorated sex life , I?ve pulled something in my neck and have sore lady bits!). Unfortunately, my jelly belly has remained intact!

Still preening after you considering me to have been in training with MrsMc , I obviously had a rare rare moment of clarity. I have a long way to go to reach those giddy heights of wisdom!

Hi morningglory, Don?t test! Stay away from the tests! Am fully sympathising with you having to do most of the enticement. I am doing all of the enticement- though to be fair I have set Dh a rather gruelling schedule so there isn?t actually much chance for him to be enticing, but he could look more keen! Am worried if I don?t fall pg this cycle, he will blame it on too much bding and I will forever be rationed.

Oh herby, so sorry. Does the appointment card have a number to call so you can query the appointment. How is your DH/DP ? Is he being supportive? Could you get him on the case nagging the GP/hospital?

Hi EllieG fabulous spontaneous nookie, what?s that?! My cycle is all over the shop since the mc so am going flat out this month so to speak. I think sperm can live for a few days so having sex on the 3-4 days in the run up to ovulation and the day of ovulation itself would be ideal. Do you know when you ovulate?

popsy- just crossed posts- yes i did watch that programme and thankfully DH was in the other room!!

Lissie ? holiday might be the key though (even with the parents) Got my last BFP on 12dpo so purposefully didn?t test today as I thought it would depress me. If no AF by Thurs, I?ll test again. I?m getting some sharp pains on either side though so am imagining that that is my ?lining? dissolving

Thanks Wheely, funeral was sad puts life into perspective doesn?t it, you forget how fragile and transient it all is. Fingers crossed that AF doesn?t turn up and that you can go to the appointment on Friday with a BFP and be told all is fine

Hello Popsy ? surely making the most of one?s fertile period is not the same as planning sure it isn?t the same! How are you feeling these days? Thanks for the compliment PMSL at the headline there could also be ?Pearl?s a Stringer? ?Popsy?s take on a pearl necklace? enough! sorry! I went back to my slimming class on Sat after 9 weeks away. It was hard as my card had scored all over it that I was pregnant and the leader kindly tippexed that out and told me how positive I was to come back and that she knew how I felt ? mostly fat being my response! 7 pounds on since the MC

Oh Herby I am so sorry, that Christening came at a really bad time for you. It must have been so so hard. I really don?t know what to advise or who you can speak to to get those answers, I feel useless. Sending you huge hugs though and thinking of you.

Hi Torres ? good idea about Lesley Regan, caring for her patients emotional needs as well as physical does seem to be really important. PMSL at your description of yourself (though I imagine it was incredibly unfair on you and not at all accurate ) it sounded very like me too ? must shave my legs soon, it?s been about a week oh the shame!! Thank you too for the compliment your advice was much wiser than most of mine.

Morningglory I like stories like that ? tell me more! I did consider that my internet cheapies were crap Limbo land can be so hard, have you given yourself a goal date? I?m trying for Thursday if no AF before then. Fingers crossed for you hon.

EllieG- hope you feel well equipped with info now and good luck

What was this programme then?

ellie this calender is the best one ive found, got pg twice on it.

LOL at Popsy and torres and your Benny Hill moments. This whole process is so romantic isn't it ?!

Torres - my tests were to check I was ovulating and to check for polycystic ovaries which the sonographer already said I don't have. I am fairly sure I DID ovulate this month so am fully expecting the results to be clear.

Also am, today, fairly sure AF is on its way - every sign is now there so the nausea over the last few days was clearly a mean hormonal trick. Feeling pretty hopeless now.

Herby - How are you feeling today ?

MrsMc - any news ?

Torres Oh my god I was looking in that shop and wishing I had bought my dress from there - it is gorgeous - it has a bo peep number in there that I can't help loving ha ha - it is on sale (worth getting married again for? tee hee). The shop above talluleh has a beautician and then a wedding show maker - god am going to have to peel myself away from Upper st - is way too tempting! Have you been to Otto lehnge? The merangues look amazing - went to meet friend there Friday but she wouldn't eat dinner (wedding in Ausgust poor crazy dieting obsessive that she is) so we went accross the road (which did a mean glass of rose and olives so I was happy).
We had an eventful evening yesterday - the cat caught a mouse on Thursday and took it up into the study. I was working at home and so tried to catch it but it was jumping all ovcer the place. Was terrifying for me and the poor creature so waited for DH to come home and rescue us both. Mowsy had dissapeared - we couldn't find him anywhere. Thought must have gonhe under the floor boards. Two days later the stench started ....yesterday evening we started pulling the floorboards up until we realised smell coming from the desk. I took a great big sniff of the printer and Mowsy was indeed lodged within - poor little thing. What followed can only be described as hilariously foul - trying to get him out with a couple of screw drivers and my tweezers. He is still in there safe to say - the printer is in the shed until we can work out what to do with him .
Hope you are all having a good day
MrsMc well done for getting back to slimming club - is amazing what a bit of weight loss can do for your self esteem and we all need a bit of that at the mo! I went spinning this morning before work. A colleague told me I was looking slimmer yesterday so I have decided to cane the gym as an outlet for all this anger and lack of control - going to a wedding in Prague at end of month so should at least be out of my support pants by then

p.s. I am back in my diesel jeans today - wearing a smock-like cardy over the top (muffin tops showing of course) and have not done up the inner buttons but 7 weeks post ERPC and I am back in booty-licious business baby!

well, af came today - hurrah!!! not at all when was expecting (so the spotting a couple of weeks ago was prob just random).
hoping i can convince dh that we want to start ttc agan this month cos he's been a bit cagey about the idea.

feeling really achey today, but for the first time in ages i am glad to have af here so i know where i am, and as there was no chance of me being pg it's fine!!!

poor dd (4 next week) had bad dreams last night, and i woke up this morning to find dh awol - bless him, he ws tucked up in the spare duvet on her floor!!!

Hi popsy- thank god for smock tops eh? Though it sounds like you won't need them if you keep up all this early morning exercise- where do you get your energy from! I don't know how we haven't bumped into each other in RL (though maybe we have without realising)- I have been in ottolenghi loads recently! It's so yummy. I've been kidding myself that we go there for the healthy salads but I always have a cake too and make DH order one- he hates puddings so I end up eating his as well. Can thoroughly recommend the meringues, and the raspberry and white chocolate cake and the chocolate fondants.. well, actually, the whole lot! I'd love to go back into the wedding dress shop and try some more dresses on- mind you I doubt I could fit in any after all those cakes- I would need heavy machinery to get them done up. Hilarious about your mouse - I love the whole 'out of sight don't have to deal with it' task avoidance!!

Hi MrsMc- I am so glad we don't have webcams, I can look scary sometimes! Fingers crossed your sharp pains are your womb growing for a LO.

Hi wheely- glad AF not here yet, fingers crossed for you too. I agree it would be great if you went along to the doctors with a BFP.

Hi alittlebit- glad AF has arrived- it's a relief to know things are in working order isn't it

Hi herby how are you? In my work avoidance, I was reading the zita west website and you can make an appointment to see a recurrent miscarriage specialist privately(who is part of Lesley Regan's team). Not cheap, but may be worth it to at least be able to sit down with someone sensible to get some answers and he might be able to advise you on how to get better NHS treatment too. I think this is the link
www.zitawest.com/start/view_page.asp?section=services&article_ID=260

well my bding plans are being scuppered as DH is leaving at 6am tomorrow to go to Scotland so am expecting lots of excuses tonight. I'm flying up to join him on friday night but we are staying at his parents and will be in single beds which are different lengths and heights!

torres - those beds at your inlaw's sound decidedly un- conducive to bd-ing!!! lol!

mrsmc - i have my fingers crossed for you. i keep thinking about you and hoping this is it!!!

a little bit- those bloody beds are unconducive to anything other than injury! They are pushed together but I have been squashed by DH rolling over in his sleep and plunging from a great height on to me and yelling as he cracks his ankle on the end of the bed on his way down!

am giggling at the thought!!!!!!!

Hey ladies some cramps today but nothing more (fingers crossed) hate flying as it brought on AF early at Christmas but hopefully I?ve got away with it this time.

Wheely don?t feel hopeless hon, it?s not over until it?s over. No news from me. It?s getting scary how hopeful I am getting. I have never got to 13dpo in the last 9 cycles apart from the one I got my BFP, a disappointment would be hard to deal with (but I would, we always do don?t we! )

Hello Popsy ? uggghh sorry about the Mowsy incident! I used to love spinning. Got quite addicted to it! Wedding for me is on 19/5 so not much time ? ahhhhhhhhhh! Good for you , I haven?t worn jeans for weeks

Alittlebitshy ? glad to hear you can get started again soon! wishing you every success. How are you feeling these days hon? Are you ok? Why is DH being cagey? Is he worried about the impact of it all on you?

Hey Torres thanks. A lot of fun can be had in a single bed if you ask me and even more to be said for a fun bed to play in and a dry bed to sleep in My Scotland send you its best! (where are you going to be? Sure you?ve told me before )

Hi MrsMc- you and wheely have made me late for work - I was so hoping you'd both have exciting news to report that I've logged on at home!
Good point on the 'dry' bed- that is a plus point I hadn't considered. The in-laws are in Glasgow

Nope - no news here Torres but although CD30, am only just 14 DPO today and I have a longish LP I think so expecting AF to arrive today or tomorrow (and feels like she will). Would be tempted to test if I had tests in but I don't. Mind you, thought I had to sit in all day waiting for dd's bedroom furniture to arrive but it arrived at 7.30 this morning so will have to be strong and not go near a chemist which won't be hard as am a bit of a child when it come sto buying things like pg tests (you would have thought at the age of almost 32 with a 2 year old I shouldn't be embarrassed but there you go).

Come on MrsMc, put us out of our misery - you must have tested this morning ??

wheely and others- have you seen MrsMcs post on the chartspotters united thread , go look!!

Hmmm hello ?.I am ?probably pregnant? woke up at 4am, needed a wee and thought I?d better temp too as I normally get up at 6.15, temp was still good so I rooted around in the dark for a test and did it ? there was a line not the strongest of lines but mostly definitely there. Funnily enough, I didn?t get any sleep after that. I feel numb really, I went through every emotion in the hours of lying there; as you can imagine I am very scared about the thrombophilia and the risk to the baby, I don?t have a haematology appointment yet and I don?t know what to do. I have left a message for my GP to call me about ?something important? I hope she is not too angry with me for disobeying her advice to help. I haven?t had any spotting like last time so I am reading into that that this time might be different; more fool me but what?s the harm in staying positive? I am really excited, just scared. Please can I stay awhile?

Wheeky - come on, give it a go!

MrsMc- Yay!!!! so, so excited for you. Can understand your nerves about the thrombophilia but at least the doctors know that now so will just have to help you!

Please do keep an eye on us all, we would be lost without you!

Wheely- the pressure is on you now girl Can completely identify your embarrassment over buying tests- I am the same- I must have looked like a shoplifter last time with all my furtive glances and nearly keeled over when the asistant revealed they were on special offer and frogmarched me back to the shelves to pick another!