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TTC after MC April 07 - Return to the Mother Ship

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popsy76 · 27/04/2007 13:32

Hi Ladies, thought I would just grab the bull by the proverbial horns and get this going. Hope the name is okay. MrsMc I am afraid we will all be thinking of you and your DH (and his light saber) everytime we post

Too many individual posts to go back and answer so I thought I'd start with a positive message for all of us from the March thread and for any MC newbies...

Today is my 1 month MN anniversary and I do not know what I would have done without you all. It is the ability to get on here and "let it all out" that keeps me going. I have been blessed to have found you all and whatever lies in my future - your kindness and advice will stay with me forever.

Big Love and Hip hip hooray for a fabulous new positive thread POPSY xxxx

p.s. Gilly get your arse down to london - we can drink the bars dry of Rose (purely medicinal of course )

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alittlebitshy · 04/05/2007 11:25

jousting popsy? [shock}

popsy76 · 04/05/2007 12:37

ha ha well just to watch it - it is on at my sisters work so we are watching, eating bbq and drinking (very likely)

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MrsMcJnr · 04/05/2007 15:51

Becklespeckle ? hope that everything goes well I really do, has the bleeding stopped? Might be worth getting the Dr to check your cervix is still closed? I really wish I had done that last time round. Interesting symptoms, interesting about the forehead too, got a couple of spots there today. I thought that that was your ?stress? zone!

Popsy ? 2WW = 2 weeks (or less/more!) between OV and AF. You are sounding so positive the exercise will really help as well as the life coach. I go back to slimming class after my 9 week post MC ?break? and additional 7 pound bulk . It?s time to get a grip.

Welcome EllieG ? SD sounds lovely Men get all worried about money and providing I think. Stuff the practicalities I say, there are so many people in much worse financial states than us and they have kids, you find away. Have to say I get Very with DH over the crude financials of my life dream!

Patkica ? good point! ?this too will pass?! My mouth feels a bit better today, either that or I am getting used to the funny taste? Could be the latter. Vivid dreams are a good sign I believe (I?m having them too)

Wheely ? hang in there chick! I always found before that I had different symptoms each AF but there defo were some new ones when I got my BFP ? wind and smelly wee to name a couple. I can?t wait to hold a new born in my arms, even if it isn?t mine! BF due any day now. Have a lovely weekend and lets hope we are very happy ladies early next week

Hayls that?s good news, I really hope you keep that date in the delivery suite!

Hey Firsty thank you for brining bump luck to the thread thank you so much for posting (you always look after me )

Lissie hon sending huge hugs, you are being so brave. I really hope that you get your baby soon, fill your arms up again

Iwillbe ? remind your DD of that when she is screaming at her DS or DB in years to come! Don?t feel bad hon, it?ll happen soon.

herbaceous · 04/05/2007 16:59

Hello all

Just had a phone call from the hospital where I had my ERPC six weeks ago. She was giving me the results of the genetic testing of the foetus.

It was a girl (which I'd sensed strongly, oddly) and had Patau's Syndrome, or trisomy 13. The last miscarried baby had Edwards Syndrome (trisomy 18). Neither of these are very common, so either I'm the unluckiest person in the entire world, or there's something very odd going on. Mine and DH's blood has been karyotyped, and no problems were found.

All sad, and confused.

torres · 04/05/2007 17:14

oh herby, I'm sorry . No wonder you are sad and confused and how awful to get the news just before a long weekend when you won't have a chance to get hold of anyone (GP, hospital) for more explanation. Are you under anyone at the hospital (I seem to remember your treatment so far from gp and hospital has been a bit half hearted). sending a big hug your way.

lissielou · 04/05/2007 20:30

poh herby, im so sorry! what an awful thing to have to deal with.

becklespeckle · 04/05/2007 22:06

Oh Herby, I am not surprised you are feeling sad and confused. at your hospital for giving you those results over the phone! Are you going to see a consultant or anyone soon to give you some answers? {{big hugs}} too.
MrsMcJnr bleeding has stopped thanks (it was only one splodge of it IYKWIM) and cramps have gone too. Have got scan on Wednesday so will know more then. Haven't asked them to check cervix is closed but not sure how much of an indicator that is. They checked when I was m/c last year and despite bleeding fairly heavily and passing some clots it was still firmly closed. Anyway, your symptoms all sound promising I've got my fingers crossed for you!
(ps, I hope no-one minds that I keep butting in - just kick me off if I am annoying you or being insensitive)

MrsMcJnr · 05/05/2007 08:59

Oh Herby, I'm sure you feel right back to the beginning as far as grief is concerned. I am so sorry, I hope the drs can give you more info that gives you some peace of mind hugs.

Beckle - sounds good hon, hope the scan goes well. I hear what you say about the cervix. Your itsy bitsy bleed and the scan are quite far apart and therefore hopefully, you'll get the re-assurance you need

TMI have orange CM this morning, have a feeling it will turn to spotting before the day is out I still feel pretty pg but maybe that is hope over realism. Watch this space!

Have a lovely day ladies

torres · 05/05/2007 16:07

Hi beckle- don't be daft, do keep popping in- you are an inspiration to us to follow you onto the pg threads. Am so glad bleeding and cramps have stopped- will be thinking of you on wednesday.

MrsMc- Sorry to hear you feel spotting on the way. I've my fingers crossed it won't; I've been an avid follower of your symptom spotting this week and it seems so positive. I really hope May will bring a BFP for you.

patkica and wheely- hope the symptom spotting isn't driving you too mad!

hello to everyone else, hope you're enjoying the long weekend

morningglory · 05/05/2007 18:35

Imagining all kinds of symptoms...namely nausea and dizzyness. Had very small amount of spotting today (2 small drops of fresh blood). Not expecting AF for at least one week. Guess just have to wait.

morningglory · 05/05/2007 19:38

OK. Am very confused. I was getting quite a bit of CM, and just peed on another OPK stick (got lots lying around, as am addicted to them) and it was positive for LH surge...again. Can this happen twice in one cycle?

clairebear123 · 06/05/2007 09:22

Hi to all, posted a short while ago straight after m/c but wasn't really ready to join this thread then! Am very now to all of this and struggling with the abbreviations for now. Am going to go to beginning and try to catch up - mammoth task- but first I have a question. started bleeding last week in march (which would have been when period due if hadn't been PG - does that make sense?) then had d&c 3rd week in april. Had a bleed 28th March which was sort of when I expected, quite heavy but only lasted a few hours! has this happened to anyone else? Am wondering if that was my period for the month or should I do a test just in case?

Am I showing signs of obsession already???

clairebear123 · 06/05/2007 09:24

Sorry that doesn't make sense - two screaming children running around and can't think. Am very NEW to all of this and D & C was 3rd April not 3rd week in April!!

clairebear123 · 06/05/2007 09:25

And the bleed/period was 28th April...... oh for goodness sake!!!!!!!!

patkica · 07/05/2007 13:27

Really busy today (at work ) but wanted to say hello quickly. So sorry Herby: thinking of you. Any idea if you can get more information?
Claire: not really sure. All I can say is that it seems that experiences with AF are so different form everyone at the best of times, let alone after a m/c, that it would be hard to know what's going on. Maybe you could ring NHS direct. Thye were fab when I last rang.

Morningglory: sounding good to me.

Mrsmac: you can't know yet: keep the faith. I'm trying not to think about it ebcause I really don't know what's going on with me.

popsy76 · 07/05/2007 16:48

Hi Ladies drum roll.......AF finally arrived! Saturday morning was so weird I just had this whole body flush of hormonal/hot feeling and knew immediately. Was wondering if I'd feel sad but actually was a massive relief as I know is nothing wrong in there IYKWIM?
Anyway, had a good weekend - went to watch jousting - was fab fun except for all the yummy kids there with their parents and I kept thinking that should be me . Then my sister told me our most hated ex-friend is due September (as I was) double and grrrr .
Am determined to be postivie though as we are starting again this month god I feel READY!!!!!!!!!!!!!. DH is away in NY next week sun-sat which i feel is likely my fertile time ho hum! Oh well will just put lots of effort in in case that pesky egg comes out at wrong time -here's hoping
Hope everyone is okay and had a good w/e
MrsMc Patkica how's the symptoms?
Beckle Glad you are back on track

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wheelybug · 07/05/2007 19:17

Woo hoo for Popsy and her AF ! Here's to a successful May for you. Glad you had a nice weekend but sorry to hear about your friend.

pat - well done for trying not to think about 'it', I only wish I was the same . Ah well at least we should know this week one way or another.

welcome back Clairebear - not really sure about your qu. If you really are wondering 'am I/aren't I' why not do a test but try not to get hopes up about it. At least then you might know.

morningglory - join the symptom spotting loons !! I think you can get a LH surge more than once and I don't think really OPKs are entirely helpful even though I can't stop using them !!

Beckle - please do keep popping in, its nice to keep up to date. Am pleased things are looking positive.

MrsMc - please report in with latest symptoms/ progress of CM etc...

Herby - I am sorry to hear of your results. Can you get more information from the hospital about whether there can be a link ? big {hugs} to you.

Hello everyone else ! Hope you've had a good weekend. We spent the w/e at my parents which was nice. Still symptom spotting like mad - have spent most of the weekend feeling nauseous, then getting hungry and not feeling sick, eating and feeling sick again. Am sure its just AF on its way as I have had v. wierd pre-AF signs since m/c but of course can't help hoping ! CD27 here, but only 11 DPO so far too early to have pg symptoms.

MrsMcJnr · 07/05/2007 21:46

Ladies hope you are all well! I won?t be around much the next few days as have a funeral tomorrow and then have a business trip to Leeds on Weds but I?ll pop in all I can to see what?s happening (and to update you of course! )

Thanks Torres No spotting but I am ashamed to say that I have succumbed to testing on a couple of occasions this weekend, both BFN but according to the dpo to BFP ratio, I only have a 51% chance of a BFP showing up on 11dpo so we?ll see. The BFNs have grounded me a bit though.

Morningglory that bleed sounded interesting! Fingers crossed! OV can only happen once but I think you can get LH surges throughout which is why some say that OPKs are unreliable, how irritating from you!

Hi Clairebear ? from what I?ve heard, anything is normal for a few cycles after a MC and things might go back to normal immediately for some and not for others, think you just have to hang in there and see what happens. It is a horrible limbo

Thanks Patkica ? you too

Popsy yippee! It?s a rite of passage isn?t it!

Hey Wheely ? glad to hear of such fabby symptoms, fingers crossed! I haven?t done that much symptom spotting this weekend because I have been busy and because the 2 BFN (sat and today) kind of gave me a reality check, but, it?s not over yet! Even if I don?t get a BFP, at least my LP is longer than 10 days!

lissielou · 07/05/2007 21:55

hi all am back,

mrs mcj, tut tut tut. may be too early tho!

popsy, you never know these eggs are funny buggers

clairebear, after all of my mcs my periods went haywire, but so did my hormones, i had spotting thru the month. stop-start afs, the works. theres no such thing as normal. a mc is a traumatic thing for your body to go thru, not mentioning the d&c {{hug}}

well, got an email today telling me what to expect now that im 19w pg, thought id cancelled them all, ho hum. well my next fertile time is when we are on hol, my parents are coming for the 1st 2 nights, and yes, thats when we should be (ahem) trying!

wheelybug · 08/05/2007 09:20

tut tut at testing MrsMc... but I agree actually sometimes it is useful to ground oneself ! I have no tests in the house so would not test till the weekend although feel today that AF is going to show up before then anyhow. Am at doctors for test results on friday so am fully expecting AF to be here on friday and for them to say the tests showed nothing (which I KNOW is good in some ways but I'm kind of hoping for something whcih they can sort out easily !).

Hope the funeral goes as well as these things can. I hope it wasn't anyone too close.

Hi Lissie - sorry to hear about the email arriving. Its hard when these things happen isn't it. Have a cheesy {hug}.

popsy76 · 08/05/2007 09:49

Morning ladies, grey day boo hiss - so much harder to have PMA when weather like this - we were totally spoilt last month weren't we?
herby so sorry about your tests bloody hell - it doesn't rain but it pours - I hope this at least makes them take you and you future babies seriously?!?
Everyone Good morning! Hope you are all enjoying the fact that it is a 4 day week. I am back on the baby planning wagon. Have been on the ovo calculator on preg web site and as my cycle is quite long I should actually be good to go from day DH returns - bring on the frenzied bedroom games - he'll not know what's hit him ha ha - God I am destined not to chill out and over plan everything ho hum

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herbaceous · 08/05/2007 12:44

Hello girls

Had a v emotional weekend. Hearing that the baby was a girl seemed to give some sort of focus to my grieving, which in some ways I'm sure is healthy, but in other ways made life a bit tricky - I bawled my eyes out at my nephews' christening on Sunday, as the church was full of kids and smug families, and had to be taken outside. My mum cried too, and she never cries, so that made me even worse.

So, now what. I know the last two m.cs were due to chromosone problems, but what about the three before? And if only 1 in 200, or so, pregnancies have these sorts of trisomies, does this mean I'm just unlucky, and should just 'keep trying', or totally stuffed, in which case I could try IVF pre-implantation diagnosis, or just give up.

I wish there was someone I could talk to about all this. The woman on the phone said she'd 'try to talk to the consultant', but god knows if I'll get an appointment, and when.

popsy76 · 08/05/2007 13:02

Hi Herby does sound like you are beating the odds a bit here. You should have access to much better information/advice than you are currently being given. I would say that another trisomy baby would mean an appointment with the consultant asap as you will need to discuss your next steps with him (i.e. before trying again)? Good luck - I'll be thinking of you xxxx

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wheelybug · 08/05/2007 13:39

Herby - sorry you had such an upsetting weekend. Is there any way you could go privately to a consultant - I too would feel its too much of a coincidence (althoughit could be IYSWIM)and would really want some answers.

torres · 08/05/2007 13:51

Hello everyone

Hi herby, am so so sorry to hear about your weekend. The timing of the news and the christening is just another awful blow for you. I am cross that the woman said she'd try and get a consultant to speak to you- like popsy, I would have thought that an appointment witht the consultant should be immediate. Can you pester your gp? You sound so upset at the moment (understandably) perhaps dissolving in front of the gp and refusing to budge until an appointmnet is made might help? You are based in London aren't you? Could you insist your GP refers you to Lesley Regan's clinic at St Mary's? Her book seems to suggest she gets referals from all over and on paper at least she gives the impression she looks after her patients. Really hope you get a few more answers about your situation so you can begin to look to the future.

Hi popsy so glad your AF arrived- you must have scared her out with all that body combat. Sorry to hear about the ex-friend- isn't it just typical? Had to laugh about your baby making plans- have visions of your DH arriving jetlagged at the airport and you jumping on him! I can confess that there have been many benny hill like moments in our flat this week with me chasing DH. We are laughing about it now but if we are still ttc in a few months I think he might start hiding from me.

Hi wheely, very impressed by you holding out to test. what test results are you waiting for from the docs? Hope all is ok.

Hi MrsMc glad to hear no Af yet,sorry about the BFN but it's early days and fingers crossed for you. Sorry you've a funeral to go to.

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