Where there’s a Yam, there’s a way

[Bubblegum89]

Thread numero four-o.

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement.

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

• Thou shall not arrive one day and post BFP next day

• Thou shall not give advice to others when TTC for one month only

• Thou shall not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways

• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month

• Thou shall not be offended by strong language

• Thou shall not tell everyone to eat yams

• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

And most importantly...

• Thou shall not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if they do so.

Welcome and welcome. We’re all very nice and friendly despite being horrible bitter old cows ☺️

Invoke not invite !

I find the "we weren't even trying" ones the worst!

@cariad thank you 😊 I figured that what we’re doing doesn’t seem to be working and as I was reminded of Einstein’s definition of insanity I thought changing things might not be a bad idea.

Sorry af has arrived. Keeping everything crossed you can invoke the law of sod next month.

And the mooncup is in :(

I’ve had two baby bombs today. One from the cousin, who is a total bitch and the second is my sister’s friend who is the village bike who is now pregnant by some guy who was actually someone else’s boyfriend. I’m so fucking pissed off with the world. Someone quoted some thing on twitter earlier with “God is always good” lmao yeah okay, if god is good (and exists) why do drug addicts and abusive, neglectful people push out babies at an alarming rate and decent, loving, hardworking people can’t? I’ve had a big Chinese and watching crappy TV. Would have a drink but my cystisis has flared up because apparently my body wasn’t being enough of a dick already

@bubblegum89 Sorry you are having a shit day. It is rubbish really truly rubbish x

Thank you catherine I made brownies to make myself feel better and I’ve burnt them so they’ve gone in the bin. This is the worst day ever :( x

Bubble, so sorry to hear you're struggling today. We all get what you mean. I see kids at work all the time with terrible home lives and just wonder at the fairness of it. I used to believe in God but struggled with my belief for a few years before ttc clean knocked it away. Christians believe God has a plan for them: if His plan all along was for me to suffer like this having already suffered in one way or another most of my life then I think that's possibly the worst "faith" I've ever heard of.

Wish you lived near me; we're dishing out free cake at the local pub. I'm sorry I can't help you at all :( Sending you massive virtual hugs x

sooz oh free cake! I had a cereal bar in the end, not quite the same though haha. My nan is super religious (attends church 4 times a week, is a Sunday school teacher, reads the bible every night before bed etc) She says things like “God has a plan” but I just don’t get that. Why is his plan to make good people suffer and hand out things on a plate to people who don’t deserve it? It makes no sense. Hope you’re okay and enjoying your night ☺️ x

Sorry you’re having such a tough time Bubble.

I found these stats on natural conception in an article in the Huffington Post, which I found vaguely reassuring.

Talk me through the reassuring bit @Cariad2017 - I keep looking at those stats and finding it depressing!

So I was taking Angus whatsit and B-complex this cycle and it's seems to have moved my ov date forward by 5 days according to ff. Which means Dh and I almost missed it! My ov tests showed a slight surge day 12/13 but didn't actually get a positive so I didn't take much notice and we just had sex every few days. Feel a bit sad that we didn't do it enough for this cycle to be a go'er......

Yeah.... my negative head is struggling to find the reassurance there too tbh.
I've started Angus Castus to try and re-start my cycle.... currently on cd53 anyone had success with it?

I'm wondering how a 2% chance can be considered positive, sorry Cariad!

Sorry if I offended anyone with my views on religion: my parents are active Christians and would be sad to hear me talk like that. I didn't think when I posted.

This is so interesting. I too used to be a regular church goer, very Christian family etc, but have pretty much given it all up and only occasionally go to church now, more for the sake of my husband who still believes it all and still goes. It's all made less and less sense over the last 4 years. It kinda sucks to lose your faith as well as going through all the crap, but at the same time I wouldn't want back into it.

I'm another struggling to see the positives that can be taken from that chart! Looks depressing to me!

I'm starting to feel premenstrual :( dodgy tummy feeling, so I imagine I'll see spotting later and AF on Tuesday or Wednesday. Ho hum. This months treat is a deliveroo feast, which I always feel is too luxuriously lazy (if I'm not going to cook, I at least feel I ought to collect my own takeaway!), so I've scheduled a Friday night deliveroo binge, assuming I will definitely be counted out by then.

I take reassurance from those stats on the basis that as someone who has failed to get pregnant at all in 17 cycles, it can be easy to assume that it will never happen, but as someone who has beaten worse odds twice on the pregnancy front (to get a ruptured ectopic at 5 weeks with no underlying cause and to suffer from severe obstetric cholestasis), this gives me a slender window of hope that even without intervention, it may well happen, it’s just a case of time...

cariad oh that’s not reassuring at all haha! I’m on my way to 4% :/

sooz I think it’s hard to have faith when you’re going through this, even for the most religious of people. I don’t think anyone would judge you for having those doubts.

Last night, I took my mooncup out and had a little bit of watery brown stuff and some red tinged ewcm around the rim (sorry for tmi lol) so this morning I fully expected the floodgates to open so went for a wee armed with my mooncup but there wasn’t anything when I wiped and I’ve had no cramps. Obviously I’m not pregnant and af is on her way but I don’t know why it’s gone weird. Instead of my usual brown spotting the day before af, I had tiny bit of pink cm and also tiny bit of red when I wiped on Friday. Then nothing. Then yestday I had brown spotting, little bit of watery brown and red tinged cm and then nothing today. My boobs have stopped hurting so af should be here. I’m just desperate for it to start today and not tomorrow because I just can’t cope with the cramps at work on my feet all day :(

Wonky - not personally, but I know a couple of ladies with mild PCOS type symptoms who managed to “fix” their cycles using it, and got upduffed pretty quickly as a result. One tried for over 2 years to get to DC1 with ridiculously long cycles until she took AC. DC2 arrived incredibly quickly after taking AC.

Thanks @Cariad2017 crossing everything it helps.

@Bubblegum89 How bloody frustrating - hope it arrives pain free and uncomplicated

Stats are reassuring, hopefully we’re just all uniquely in the minority?! Keep thinking of people who were much older and still managed, so fingers crossed x

@bubble hope af is staying away for the right reasons.

@cariad not sure I find those stats reassuring to be honest 😔

Also, if I had my bfp within 2 years, does the time start again? So do my odds go back up to 12% because I'm within 3 months of my mc? clutches at straws

Well I’m on about 7% and it’s going down each month! That’s depressing 😫

The stats I’ve seen say that 95% of couples will have conceived by the 24 month mark (unless there is a problem with fertility) I think mc counts as a pregnancy so you start again, if that makes sense. My fertility doctor said that to me, that if no problems are found on my next tests, we should keep trying until we reach 2 years with no pregnancies as most couples with no issues will usually have conceived by then

I love you, Bubble!!!!

I'm taking that 12% and headin' for the hills!

Haha you’re welcome sooz

Af is in full flow now :( at least I’m able to stay in bed and not be stuck in work. Need to treat myself extra treats for this one after the double baby bomb yesterday