40+ ttc: 2018 full of bfp's!

[Orchid222]

Ladies, the old thread has now closed so I created a new one but can't post the link, hopefully you'll find it and we can continue.

Thanks Crivit and Cleo for the Soy info - might be something to try in the absence of Clomid (which I got privately for 2 cycles and it made me feel really rough) and of course my latest issue of no ovulation -hence no period this past cycle. I asked the TCM lady today and she said I should remain positive about pregnancy just in case and test when I’m a week late - of course that got me curious and I got my BFN this eve which came as no surprise!
Unsure now what to do tbh, guess I will just have to ride it out...
Where does one buy Soy?
Feeling sore after needles tonight and irritable about my old annoying body 😬
Night night all - tomorrow is another day!
Take care.

I got mine from a health food store, manufacturer is Nature's Aid. I believe you can get those online easily too. When looking make sure to check the doses though, for instance the Holland and Barrett one states 250mg on the front but when standardised it's 23mg of isoflavones. The Nature's Aid are 50mg which I find useful as a) jumps are easy - this month I took 100mg (CD4 and 5) and then 150mg (CD6, 7 and 8). Also, tiny tablets mean you end up taking a chuffing handful at a time . I did get a bit of a headache at the end of this months dosage but nothing major and no side effects at all on the lower dosage last cycle.

Also, not out until AF arrives so I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for you

Hi everyone.. Firstly huge Congrats Sparkly! Well i'm sitting here right now watching One Born in floods of tears!! 😭 It gets me every time and even more now i know we'll prob never have DC2. Ttc is not happening and i'm now just turned 46. So time to close the door and be thankful for our beautiful 4 yo DS..who says every time he doesn't want any babies in the house!! He knows who's the boss here and no one's invading his territory! !
So anyway..wishing you all lots of luck going forward. I might not post for a while but will keep an eye on the thread from time to time..bye ladies xx

I get my soy with the tesco shopping delivery! They do it most places with vitimins too. Tesco one comes in 40mg. I found it got my cycles back after my anovulatory one, so I think in your situation it should help. Fingers crossed af arrives soon. The wait is torture isnt it!

Aww sorry to hear you are feeling so down boosey. It's so disheartening isnt it. I don't watch one born for that very reason. I have them on series record but can't bring myself to actually watch them.
But don't forget - while you are still ovulating there is always a chance.

BOOSEYS - that’s what I’ve been doing this morning- watching One Born -‘also in floods of tears. I ask myself everytime why do I put myself through it . Sort to read your feeling so down too. I’m 48. Had sore breasts for about a week now but pretty sure it’s PMT again - AF due at weekend but not holding out much hope. Think it’s going to be time to call it a day soon by just never seem to able to make that final decision. Sorry for such a negative post. Hope everyone else feels ok xx

Cleozeta: thank you for the positive words.
I think i'm ovulating now as i have crampy pain and feel nauseous and very irritable! I ask myself how badly do i want this though as like with DS i'm too scared to ttc too often! I'm like a hormonal roller coaster all the time!
I found this article today which makes me feel almost young again!! www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560739/UK-woman-59-worlds-oldest-natural-mother.htm

MATTSMAMMA..thank you for the msg. I feel exactly the same as you. I think i'm going to give up watching One Born. I'm terrified something really awful will happen at the end. I know it can happen whatever age you are but they keep saying the risks increase with age. So how long have you been ttc? I wish you lots of luck. The article in the link i posted should give us all hope!

Boosey- I’m right there with you feeling your pain. I don’t even put OBEM on anymore. I’m so sorry you feel defeated. I get it. How long you been ttc?
I’m down too today. I just ovulated but we couldn’t dtd as my DH is ill so he refused. It’s now before Xmas since we last had a try. We just keep missing the right time for reasons which is so frustrating. Particularly annoyed this month as I’ve just had my HSG and I wanted to take advantage of the possibility of everything being ‘opened up and flushed out ‘ and I also had a really strong line on the opk. Gutted. I just feel like it’s a dream that’s slipping away:(

OH and typically I’ve had loads of ewcm and have actually got into double figures for ovulation day ie usually I ovulate too early on CD7-8 but this month it’s been CD10. So typical.

BOOSEYS - I have 2 DC. I got pregnant with my youngest at 42 and I knew immediately I wanted a third (sounds greedy when I put it like that) but I just knew. It was prob because of my age I was more aware if that makes sense. I remember the health visitor saying older mums are so commonplace now they don’t really think anything of it but if I did want a third to ‘crack on with it’. My husband took some persuading however so ttc 3 didn’t happen right away and I feel some resentment in that respect - keep wondering what if we had tried sooner etc. Been trying for about 4 years now and I’ve had around 4’chemicals in that time. That makes me happy and sad at the same time. Happy to get pregnant but sad that the chemicals are prob due to my age now although I have immune problems and hypothyroidism for which I have to take meds if I do get pregnant. It still hurts and I feel so sad - particularly so at the moment as AF is imminent and the feckin hormones make it worse. It really does mess with your head

Oh no little 😞 I really do feel for you that's so frustrating. Is there still a chance if you can persuade him tmrw? If not fingers crossed you will still get the benefits next month. It sounds like things are going the right way with ovulation anyway.

Thanks Crivit and Cloe regarding the Soy - I’m on it - just need a period now to know where I am at.... didly squat happening there atm, getting really bored with the waiting now 😬

Well Boosey and Matts - I’m 43, 44 in August so realise that things are also near the end of the line for me too and that’s a crap feeling, no doubt about it... but I am trying to keep hope alive, and I have peaks and troughs too.

Mimosa that is a pain about not being able to DTD this month - that would drive me mad (not way you can bribe/jump hubby!!!?)🤪 Mind you that said my OH doesn’t even know I’m trying ... but that’s another story...

In relation to OBEM -my guilty pleasure - cry every time and know I am torturing myself but I can’t help it - for me I think it’s lots to do with the birth of my daughter which was nothing like it was supposed to be, I just feel like pregnancy and birth for me was something I was a bit cheated of..

I will prob keep watching it though because the older mums always keep my hopes up!

Got too Keep the Faith!!

X

Morning ladies. Sorry so many if you are feeling down, hopefully things will pick up soon.
Boosey-that's just hit you have to ask yourself how badly you want it but the fact you're even on this forum gives a hint. At the end if the day like you say things can go bad at any age so if you do decide to go for it I think positive attitude plays a part here too. And I think there's a much better chance if things going well than the other way around no matter what age. I used to read a lot of things online when I was pregnant and my gynecologist said pregnant women should not be allowed to read the internet so there. Perhaps women the shouldn't read it either:)
As for me cd15 here and still nothing on opk which is good because I have my HyCoSy this afternoon so hoping we won't miss the window this month. I'm planning to ask them if they can see anything else ie how close my ov is or any hint they can give me.

KEEPING THE FAITH AND ORCHID

Even though I’m at the worst time of the month for feeling down (af due ) your posts both made feel a bit more upbeat. It’s nice to know others totally get it and yes I’ll definitely keep watching One Born - although I do blub everytime it’s also because of the actual amazement of childbirth in general. I also feel positive after seeing older parents too.
And yes things can go wrong at any age. There’s just so much negativity around older women having children when in reality our grandparents and great grandparents were popping them out well into middle age.

This is exactly how I feel in the first half of the cycle too. I go through all the stages. Despair of af and feeling like giving up, followed by fear of not ovulating and body packing up on me, followed by joy and elation once ov has happened (assuming we dtd at the right times!) Followed by hope, followed by despair again. Currently in the hope stage and enjoying it as I know it'll be rudely torn away before I know it! I accidentally watched one born last night, I enjoyed it this time as I am in my small hope window. Had a dream last night that I had a baby girl. Both of my children were conceived in spring so I am clutching on to that hope! Temps are also looking good now, although still not certain which day I ov'd. But at the same time I am aware that even though I am 41 my egg supply is like that of a much older person with my current FSH level.
I really hope everyone is feeling a bit more positive this morning. There will be another ov - there will be another chance.

Ah CLEO - you just summed up exactly how I feel. Currently sort of in the hope stage albeit waning as each day passes. Keep prodding my breasts and can feel them slightly less sore and stupidly did a test this am - BFN if course but I keep telling myself it’s not over till af arrives and then a new cycle Apart from my dh who sort of understands a little how I feel no one in RL gets it at all who is close to me in particular a very insensitive sister so it’s nice to be able to vent here. Good luck CLEO X

Cleo-it doesn't matter about the egg supply you just need ONE golden egg and I'm sure it's there.
Mattsmamma- very true re:our grandparents and great grandparents! I think I mentioned this before but I'll say it again. Years ago when I was going through lots of 19th century records trying to piece together my family's genealogy I was amazed how old some of the women were when they gave birth. Wish I paid more attention then but I never expected to be in the position I'm in now ttc at my age and trying to find positives in every story that involves an 'older woman.
My hospital called this morning, they had to move my appt forward by 3 hrs(!) so racing there from work now. Didn't even get a chance to take paracetamol so hopefully it won't be too painful.

I am the same, it's hard to talk to amyone about it properly in RL. I love coming on here too, for that reason, and so good to have likeminded people in the same boat.
I have also been prodding my boobs! (The things we do haha) but weirdly they have not been sore since 2nd ov attempt. After what I thought was ov on cd14 they were really sore, then temp dropped and rose higher which I think was 2nd ov attempt, now temps are rocket high (getting even higher now 4 days on) but boobs not sore. Every cycle is different these days, it likes to taunt and tease me. Think its just struggling to keep my overies ticking, but nevermind, it keeps me on my toes! Gone are the days of simple predictability!
Good luck this cycle mattsmamma, its not over till af arrives

Good luck orchid!

Thanks Cleo. I'm nervous but glad it's happening and I feel like I'm moving forward.
And I'm exactly the same about talking to people about it in RL. Very few know were ttc which mainly leaves my poor DH listening to my moans lol. Hence it's so good to have you all here to share!

Just passed maternity wing and children's wing. So ready for another baby!

ORCHID - thanks and good luck! I’m with you on the passing maternity and children’s wing and knowing your so ready for a baby! Sometimes when I’ve felt so despondent with it all and I’ll see a newborn and just know I want it so much still - can’t give up just yet! xx

Thanks for all the upbeat-ability!! Let’s keep it going! Orchid, hope things went well for you. Keep us posted! X😊

Omg never again! Apparently most women just walk out of there but a few have quite a strong reaction and I was one of the lucky ones. The procedure itself wasn't too bad although it hurt when they injected the fluid. After I got dressed though I started feeling hot, dizzy, nauseous and had such bad pins and needles in my hands that I couldn't feel/move them. I had to ask to lie down and they wheeled me into an observation room where they saw my pulse and blood pressure was super low. It took me a while to fully recover.
So, I have good news and bad news now. The good news is that everything looks fine and the tubes are clear. The doctor also said I'll ovulate in 2-3 days so hopefully we'll still make it though I don't feel up to bd'ing tonight. Need to see how I go.The bad news is that my cervix is short which increases the risk of mc after 12 weeks so not only do I have to worry about mc in the 1st trimester but also in the 2nd and 3rd! Of course now I'm obsessing about it and worrying and I'm not even pregnant yet. Thanks doc!