TTC after recurrent miscarriage

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Hi, just wondering if anyone else was in a similar place to me and wanted to chat about it? I'm 30, TTC my first and have had three miscarriages, all early (two natural MCs at five weeks, then a MMC where a scan at 6+5 revealed development had again stopped at 5 weeks). I've had RMC tests and am just waiting on the results of that but hoping to be able to TTC again from my next period, which should come any day now. I've found throughout the whole thing (have been TTC just over a year now) that it's really helped me to chat with people in similar positions, so if anyone wants to be TTC buddies please let me know!

That is so lovely, bertie - it's funny what a difference it makes coming from someone who's struggled too, isn't it? I think if someone who had conceived very easily gave me a good luck token I'd struggle to know how to react, but as a gesture of solidarity it's really thoughtful.

Hello Miami - I am sorry to hear what happened to Eilidh. I hope the tests give you some comfort that there will be hope for future pregnancies. Is your hospital arranging tests into your uterus shape or will you need to go private?

Keepon - glad the op went well and hope you are less sore today. Great news about 6 ish weeks wait hopefully, that's shorter than you expected isn't it?

I hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Hi Mog
No indication from my consultants of what they think so far. Sorry for tmi but I had a postpartum haemorrhage with Eilidh as my placenta didn't come away properly. So the consultants ended up having a good look at my uterus as such whilst they were patching me up. They mentioned definite left horn, right horn situation so I hope to speak to them about that when we see them for results. My worry is that my wee girl ran out of room and managed to mash her cord right up against a funny bit of uterus and then couldn't right herself. We will have to wait and see what they say. But fundamentally given it took three pregnancies to get to Eilidh I want to try and understand more of what is happening before we even consider chancing it again. I just keep thinking that it's been 18 months of just never ending drudge with no take home/ living baby at the end of it. And just so much sadness now. It's just so hard to accept. I still can't believe that this has happened.

So much heartache you have been through, really hope there are some better times ahead for you.

I also had a retained placenta with my DS, so I know what an added unpleasantness that must have been for you, but useful if it has identified something.

Hey lovelies, sorry been awol. Just had a mega quick scan and will have a proper read back. Glad you're okay if sore keepon, rest up and look forward to your break.

Thank you flynn and lisa. Good session this morning. Awful cramping like bad af pain today. 7dpo. Nothing else going on though. All well. lisa, I'm so sorry about your appointment, I'd definitely put pen to paper and hope it helps others who follow us to have more compassionate care. Good Coventry were good though. I hear good things.

miami, I've been keeping you and DH close to my heart and don't have the words about the loss of your beautiful daughter

You know you're welcome here and among friends.

I saw a couple of new names. Will catch up properly with where everyone's at.

Big love. I feel so lucky to have you lot.

Glad the acupuncture went well again, Anne. 10dpo here and feeling very unhopeful about this cycle, but I guess we'll see. The progesterone hasn't been too bad at all, so that's a relief. I'm not really sure whether or not AF will still come even though I'm taking it - Coventry implied not, but lots of women online seem to have still bled while on it. Big love to you too, hope the cramping either stops soon or is a sign of good news to come!

Glad you're feeling okay on the progesterone lisa. Is the plan to rest in a couple of days? I hadn't thought about what happens with af if you're not pregnant, do you test at the latest time you'd know then come off it till next cycle? So hope you get a bfp but good to know what to expect and do either way. With a bfp, would you stay on it till 12 weeks?

Cramping went for most of the evening then came back really badly at bedtime but seems gone again today.

Funny coincidence yesterday. I bought a book last week off the back of an article in the guardian about acupuncture for fertility. Mentioned it to my therapist and she trained under the author!

Started it last night and it's fascinating. I got it mainly to understand her approach without having to grill her on it. Didn't realise it's her exact approach as she knows the guy so that's a bonus! It's the five elements type of acu and the book is pretty out there but as I've said, I'll get on board with nearly anything these days

I have ovulated but no idea when. Oops. Bank holiday plus DS' birthday all in the same week really screwed my temping. But we have stuck to every 1-3 days in the interim so I reckon we've caught it on time. It was some time in the last week but I don't know which day. Luckily last day it could possibly have been still leads to my period being due around the time FF suggests so I should not be in limbo for long.

Yes, my instructions were to take an OPK every month (because I'm a bit irregular - if you have the same ov day every cycle you don't have to bother) and then to start taking the progesterone seven days later, and then seven days after that to take a test and carry on if positive (until 12 weeks) and stop if negative. I know I should hold out until Thursday (14dpo) but I predict I'll crack on Tuesday! As I said, though, don't have a great feeling about this cycle, but I guess we'll see!

Good that you know more or less when AF is due, Bertie - horrible to have that 'am I/aren't I late' confusion .

Hi foxtrot - I'm sorry to hear that sorting out the estate was even harder than you expected. I hope you're looking after yourself and that you have other people around to look after you - you've been through so much.

I go away for work quite often and it's such a pain/stress when I think it'll coincide with fertile week - I don't normally go for more than two nights so it doesn't completely rule it out but it means we have to do it on the days either side which can sometimes turn into a real chore, especially if I'm just back from a long journey!

Hi ladies so sorry to see so many of us here. I've been directed over by the lovely lisa

A bit about me/us we have had 5 consecutive early losses between 5 and 9 weeks over the past 4 years. Our last one being this year at 9 weeks which was genetically tested and came back as t22 (originally told t21). We have both had karyotype bloods done and I've had the usual sticky blood and thyroid tests done. We've been told to not try until they're back.

Current thinking for us is hyperfertility as we very rarely have sex but when we do and have sex at the right time we catch straight away. I'm not sure how they manage that but I can't just keep trying due to complications with my health arising from fluctuating hormones.

So that's where we are at...

Look forward to getting to know you all and wish you all safe happy pregnancies.

Hi wurtz - glad you came to have a look! I was on hiatus for the same reason when I started this thread (I've now got the results back - all clear - and am trying again) and there are some other people on here who aren't currently TTC.

Hiya PlayOn - sorry if I upset you on the other thread, I shouldn't really have posted on it as it was making me a bit cross. Ho hum.

How long will you have to wait for your bloods? I've heard such massive varying timescales.

Ah don't apologise. I said some pretty blunt things myself it's a subject I get heated up about!

The karyotype is being sent to GOSH so will take anything up to 12 weeks to come back. Everything takes so bloody long

Hi all, just catching up after being away for the weekend. I think I saw that thread you're talking about Play and Bertie, I had to stop reading after a few pages as it was annoying me too much!
I hope your results don't take too long Play, my karyotype only took 5 weeks in the end. But then in a way it can be good to have an enforced break sometimes.

As for me, I think I've ovulated but temps being a bit weird, and with being away last week don't think we had the timing quite right so who knows. So it's another 2ww - don't know if I'm more hoping it's worked or hoping it hasn't....

Hope everyone has a good Monday.

That's the thing which I've found frustrating about this process. So long. We are going to get a new karyotype done - unsure if they'll test me too - we know DH has a balanced translocation - don't know which one or how big the breaks are, but we have to wait until January even for the initial appointment, so I really hope we don't have to wait weeks and weeks for the results too. That's just going to drive me insane.

However more time trying naturally means less chance of needing to go to IVF in the end I think that's scaring me more than the chance of more miscarriages to be honest.

Morning ladies and welcome play. Everything does feel like it takes forever and a day doesn't it. I hope the time passes quickly for those waiting for results. Scary I agree, as desperate as we are for a child, DH and I have both found the enforced break from TTC helpful. And I have most definitely not missed the TWW! I am finger crossing for those of you currently in it.

Please excuse my ignorance, but with a known translocation is pre-implantation screening an option? And if so is it available on the NHS? Although Bertie, am I right in thinking you don't live in the UK?

Welcome Play

Can't believe I missed drama on another thread!

I was wondering the same thing about screening and whether that's an option. Honestly, the idea of telling people to just go away, crack on and expect an unknown number of more losses because they'll hopefully get a take home baby in the end is barbaric.

Do you have to pay for IVF in Germany Bertie?

Sounds like you're covered this month . And I hope your son has a nice birthday.

Thanks for explaining Lisa, that makes sense.

I'm entering hopeful twat territory, just slightly Not that I haven't had all these feelings in the past to then get a bright white BFN. But still.

Bless you Foxtrot, roughly when is af due?

Have you done OPK before? I haven't but some people find it helpful. I actively loath peeing on sticks these days so like temping but you don't get confirmation till 3 days later and twice it's changed on me anyway!

The best was last cycle when having panicked it hadn't happened I was all of a sudden 6dpo.

Do you get any ov symptoms?

What are your HT symptoms! Far more interesting

You really don't want to see other thread drama - it was basically a load of people saying that miscarriages before 12 weeks are nonsense that happen to everyone and that women only know about because they did an early test (which appeared to mean a test before eight weeks) so they've only got themselves to blame. It wasn't pretty.

I'm going to test in the morning, I think, but I'm a very unhopeful twat. Every time I've ever been pregnant I got breasts that were not just sore but swollen, and right now my ladies are deflated and painfree, no matter how many times I prod them...

Ugh, just thinking about that thread annoys me! People just do not get it. What really annoys me is people not accepting other people's feelings - like they feel one way and can't imagine that other people feel another.

PGD is an option Anne and Keep - not for all translocations, but it works for mine. It's not a great option though - really low success rates so can expect potentially 3 or 4 rounds of IVF to get one normal embryo. Which is then subject to the usual failings of IVF. A lot of what would be "normals" don't survive the process, and chromosomes which could correct themselves are discarded as abnormal. Ultimately the take home baby rate is about the same for natural as IVF, the only difference is the number of miscarriages you go through to get there. i.e. around 60% of couples get a baby at the end. Pretty crappy odds really. I'm on the fence about it just now - lucky I can get pg, but not sure how many more MCs I can face, but also really do not want to go through IVF. Crap all round actually. I try to be positive, the good news is I ovulate, my AMH is good for my age, my DP has excellent sperm, so it could always be worse. Right?!