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TTC after recurrent miscarriage

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/09/2017 11:48

Hi, just wondering if anyone else was in a similar place to me and wanted to chat about it? I'm 30, TTC my first and have had three miscarriages, all early (two natural MCs at five weeks, then a MMC where a scan at 6+5 revealed development had again stopped at 5 weeks). I've had RMC tests and am just waiting on the results of that but hoping to be able to TTC again from my next period, which should come any day now. I've found throughout the whole thing (have been TTC just over a year now) that it's really helped me to chat with people in similar positions, so if anyone wants to be TTC buddies please let me know!

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 08/11/2017 14:57

Thanks, Anne, but I think I'm not going to treat this as a BFP until Friday, as I really think this might fade away by then. I did take an 75mg aspirin this morning, as that's what my local hospital told me to do if I got a positive and I figured that even if this is a no-hoper it can't hurt. If it is looking better by Friday I'll have to call Coventry as they never sent through the letter that I'm supposed to use to persuade my GP to prescribe me more progesterone.

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 08/11/2017 14:58

Breasts are less swollen, rather ominously - though the left one (and only the left one!) is very achey!

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BertieBotts · 08/11/2017 22:55

It is totally normal and absolutely not a bad sign for symptoms to wax and wane throughout the first trimester but particularly before about 7-8 weeks.

Grr I found a can of sweetcorn in the fridge today which had started to ferment Envy the plastic lid was bloated and when I tipped it into the recycling, the water it was in had gone all syrupy - yuck! I think we found what made DH ill Hmm - at least it's not contagious.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 09/11/2017 10:10

Eurgh, that sounds horrible Bertie. I'm generally a really unsqueamish person - can happily clear up blood, vomit, poo - but something about very off/mouldy food really turns my stomach. I make DH deal with it all and I've been known to be horrendously wasteful and bin Tupperware that I deemed too far gone to deal with!

Really hope scan goes well today keepon and you get the all-clear to go back to TTC.

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keeponrunning85 · 09/11/2017 12:17

Thanks Lisa. How are you feeling today?

Have had my scan and in the words of my consultant my uterine cavity looks amazing! She said it was the best result she could have hoped for and she'd pretty much consider it normal now. I've got to take progesterone for 5 days to induce a bleed and then we're good to go. I'm so hoping that that's the problem solved.

Miami81 · 09/11/2017 12:34

Keepon that’s amazing. Keep meaning to pm you and then I realise that I only really use the app and then forgetting that I can’t really figure out how to do that. Will try now before I forget.
As I keep saying to people if you have a clear problem that can be seen on scans why shouldn’t it be sorted out really. I have everything crossed for you.

MogScratch · 09/11/2017 12:43

Keepon - that's fantastic news.

Anne - sorry to hear period arrived and is a painful one.

Lisa - I have fingers crossed for you and this pregnancy.

Bertie - sweetcorn sounds grim. At uni I forgot about a ham sandwich over Christmas holidays. Big mistake - i came back to find maggots crawling over it.

I'm still waiting for appointments to be confirmed. Tempted to book a private scan as it has felt a long time since last one.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 09/11/2017 13:13

That's great news, keepon! So pleased to hear that all went well, and I really hope that this means you can start TTC-ing with renewed confidence and hope.

I'm feeling ok - this morning's internet cheapie was the first one where the line was actually there, not 'maybe there if you squint'. Will see what the FRER looks like tomorrow, but I guess I'll probably have to call Coventry. I'm really worried that the progesterone means that if this one is a no-hoper I won't bleed when I 'should'. Miami you mentioned going to the GP for hcg tests - do you think this is something that's quite standard to ask for? I did ask at the hospital when I had my recurrent miscarriage meeting whether that would be hypothetically possible and they kept saying 'you can have a scan at seven weeks', but mine have all failed before then, and I don't want to wait until then just to be told it's another blighted ovum that I should have passed naturally two weeks sooner.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 09/11/2017 13:16

That's great news keepon, how reassuring and lovely.

Good work on the stronger line lisa, call the EPU and ask for the bloods. They have to be 48 hours apart so plan to go for the first one knowing you can go back around the same time 2 days later. The results come through really quickly.

BertieBotts · 09/11/2017 13:29

Yes EPU for bloods I think in UK because it's not at all standard, but understandable if you've had multiple losses before.

I'm sure they'll be able to advise on whether it would affect potential mc bleeding. But hopefully it won't come to that!

FoxtrotSkarloey · 09/11/2017 14:11

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MogScratch · 09/11/2017 14:23

Lisa - glad things are looking fine for now. How exciting but scary. I think if you have valid reason, they will do them and as you say progesterone masking natural bleeding is a valid reason. if your body is unnaturally holding onto anything when normally without projestrone it would bleed then that might be infection risk. Saying that i don't think it is high risk and I have retained things for 5 weeks after pregnancy stopped growing and no issues. Still a good excuse to get some reassurance though.

MogScratch · 09/11/2017 14:29

Foxtrot - haha good fake symptom. When can you test?

Bertie - is your weekend away and testing this weekend?

keeponrunning85 · 09/11/2017 15:23

Thanks guys. Feeling nice and upbeat right now. Let's just hope it lasts!

Anne did you have your chat with your GP?

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keeponrunning85 · 09/11/2017 15:30

Miami, how did you get on at the GP today?

BertieBotts · 09/11/2017 17:27

No next weekend. But I'm symptom spotting too. Had a weird day today, just couldn't focus on anything including I walked into traffic without looking and caused someone to beep at me Blush and got the wrong bus to work. Also having weird hyper realistic dreams to the point I can't work out what's real and what's not.

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/11/2017 18:41

I did thanks keepon and she was very kind. Said to chill a bit and come back for tests via the GP in Jan if nothing's happened. She was pleased about the acupuncture and the temping. Said if I get bloods done the temping will help pinpoint when.

Same as the acu lady, she didn't seem surprised it's taken a while after the trauma of all the pregnancies and losses, not for a specific physical reason but several times mentioned "the need to heal". That doesn't help but what can you do.

DH has a different GP surgery and has booked in for a chat about a referral for a sperm test next week. He's been so sweet, said so far I've taken all the poking and prodding and if there's anything he can do he'll do it.

Had a weird visit to the dentist, just a check up but was last there perky and happy and 11 weeks pregnant.

Sitting in the chair the dentist said "so you've had the baby" and I said no, he did a querying face and I said I lost it. He said okay. Did the teeth poking, all fine, then said I could use my mat exemption card at the desk.

Went to check out, gave her my card and booked next apt for a year. She asked what kind of card it was and said "maternity exemption". And then it went like this:

Her: You're pregnant?
Me: Yes I was
Her: You haven't written down when your baby was born (on the form)
Me: Oh, well actually I lost the baby (need to find a better way to put it, clearly...)
Her: You LOST it?!
Me: Yes, I had a miscarriage
Her: Huh?
Me:
Her: Well you can't use the card and have to pay
Me: No, I can use the card
Her: Did you tell the dentist and did he say you still don't have to pay?
Me: Yes
Her: Right.... Well I suppose you don't have to put the date down
Me: Thanks (about the lose my shit and bawl)
Her: Bye then

I made it down two flights of stairs and started crying at the door. Didn't last long and then I went and bought loads of presents for my step kids which helped a bit.

I'm bleeding with af and been cramping for the last two days, gutted enough about not being pregnant again this month and I'm sure she was uncomfortable but it was like she'd never heard the term miscarriage before and was going out of her way to make me feel bad for "losing" the baby. I probably should have just paid the £26 for my ten minute check up, but why the hell should I have to? The card lasts till May next year, a year after my due date, the letter you get with it tells you to continue using it whatever happens with the pregnant, so I did.

I'm having a glass of nice red wine.

Miami81 · 09/11/2017 18:58

@LisaSimpsonsbff
I think I just happened upon a very cooperative gp on the day. It helped that I bawled crying as I was bleeding at 5+3 and it was too early to scan. He rang the epu for me and took bloods at the gp office that then got sent to the hospital for me. Went back to gp two days later for more bloods.
GP was lovely today, she just listened to me ranting for a while and then we went through my list of queries.

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/11/2017 07:55

I am so sorry that that happened Anne, and that you encountered that awful treatment from what sounds like an absolutely awful woman.

So, I feel like an idiot - all complete false alarm, this morning's FRER was almost completely negative so it looks like that's that. I don't think it's worth bothering anyone about, so will stop taking the progesterone and hopefully get AF in the next few days. Onwards to another cycle! Maybe next time I'll try and actually not test until 14dpo! Thanks for being lovely about it over the last few days but just a big fuss over nothing, as it turns out...

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keeponrunning85 · 10/11/2017 08:12

Oh Lisa, I'm so sorry to hear that. Flowers

Anne that woman sounds like a right numpty! I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Hopefully she's learnt something from it.

Miami I'm glad the GP was supportive.

I hope everyone has some nice plans for the weekend.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/11/2017 08:31

To be honest I'm just glad that if it wasn't going to happen, it went on time rather than forcing me to faff around with blood tests and get my hopes up any higher.

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Miami81 · 10/11/2017 09:17

Oh Lisa i am sorry. Is there anything to be said for ringing your rmc for a bit of a chat today - even to record with them that you had a positive test. It may mean that they alter the strategy for you as you go on? Big hugs Flowers.

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