TTC after recurrent miscarriage

[LisaSimpsonsbff]

Hi, just wondering if anyone else was in a similar place to me and wanted to chat about it? I'm 30, TTC my first and have had three miscarriages, all early (two natural MCs at five weeks, then a MMC where a scan at 6+5 revealed development had again stopped at 5 weeks). I've had RMC tests and am just waiting on the results of that but hoping to be able to TTC again from my next period, which should come any day now. I've found throughout the whole thing (have been TTC just over a year now) that it's really helped me to chat with people in similar positions, so if anyone wants to be TTC buddies please let me know!

Good luck with them Foxtrot and have a lovely stay.

Attaching my chart. Massive spike today but I dozed off and on for a bit before doing it, was all a bit chaotic this morning! I'm 99% sure about trusting my body and my symptoms this time, but my temp has gone down since then, which just isn't possible! I'm not really stressing about it, but it feels like it's been over for a couple of days, cm is sticky and no more twinges or stabs.

Nothing like TTC for pure glamour I don't usually bother with legs up after but every now and then I do it and usually end up in stitches at the daftness of it all.

Interesting thoughts on progesterone. Have yours been so high you can't see them getting higher? I seem to get a huge difference post ov. Apart from the month where I went from panicking I was broken, to then being magically 6DPO.....

Missed some messages! Thanks Scary, that's helpful to know. I LOVED it! Got it second hand off amazon I think.

Devoured it in a night (skipping over how to use it for natural contraception as that's not where I'm at right now!) and few things have ever made more sense to me. Yes a lot of it is online but having the logic in one place and explained in her calm, funny, warm tone, was so valuable. Can't recommend it enough.

Yes, they've been at normal post-ov level, but got a static smiley this morning - will be interesting to see what happens to temps, whether they go even higher! I am obviously a hot thing this cycle! However, pleased that ov is a few days early because a cycle that goes faster is always good, but worrying that we haven't had enough sex. Will have to jump on DH tonight!

Scary, forgot to ask how you confirmed ovulation that weird cycle, was it through temping?

I do wonder what the point of ewcm is if it's not when you're ovulating. Science isn't my strong suit but it doesn't make any sense.

Have a good night Lisa

Yes, Anne through temps. That is my main take away from TCOYF, it's all about the temps! Doesn't matter what else goes on, the thermometer doesn't lie. Well, unless it's broken of course . I have been known to buy a new thermometer or two when my temps weren't doing what I expected...
Just checked The Book to make sure i'm not talking rubbish about your body gearing up to ovulate and then just not doing it - it's on page 372 about 'false starts', although it is about longer cycles think it's still relevant. The ewcm is meant to be there before ovulation so it makes sense you'd get it even if you didn't eventually ovulate.
Your temp rise today looks like ovulation though?

Hi,

I'm sorry for what you have been through.

I gave also had multiple mc. I am fortunate to have two dc.

I believe caffeine played a part in my mc x

Awesome, thank you so much scary. I'll have a look! It's been very jaggedy and I'd usually agree about the mad rise today. Had more stabbing midday and very creamy cm. Hmmm.

Right moonshine.... I don't think my one cup of real coffee a day is causing my babies to die. Given what everyone on this thread has been through we're all pretty good at looking after ourselves and too much caffeine causing miscarriages is up there with cat litter, not being positive enough and doing too much exercise.

I am sure it didn't. I'm sorry I wasn't trying to make an assumption based on your circumstances, I personally believe such high consumption contributed to the problems I faced. (Of course I cannot be sure). I'm sorry if my comment seemed inappropriate or judgemental. I wish you all the best. I understand how hard it can be. X x x

Hey guys. I’m new to this forum. Been feeling really depressed lately. We’ve been ttc for almost 2 yrs now. Conceived on the 2nd try 2 yrs ago which ended in a miscarriage at 8 weeks! My periods have been so irregular since then. Showed several doctors but nothing is helping. It’s killing me.

Hi foxtrot. When do you normally ovulate? Presumably quite early if it told you to start using it before cd7? The most flashy faces I've ever got is six, but some women have more - so it needn't be untrue, or mean you're going to ovulate early, it might just mean you get quite a few before a peak. It is frustrating when you get that many. The problem is once it's gone high it stays there until you get peak, so if your hormones are flukily high one day but then go down again it's got no way of showing that.

Some women test multiple days because they're worried about missing the peak. I only ever test in the morning and have got a peak every time I've used the CB digital (which I think must be in the region of eight cycles now), so I think it's probably unnecessary and a waste of money.

When you're very close to LH peak I believe it only lasts a few hours so you can miss it.

I read on a FB group about "carpet bombing" So we're on DTD eod from cd 8-18 this time. Maybe until cd20 as I've been known to ovulate on CD19. Will see what happens. Apparently the couple on the FB group said it never failed them.

We do have a 5 day weekend this week so hopefully lots of time.

Enjoy *bertie!

Got my crosshairs today, ovulated cd13. It's getting earlier and earlier! Back from an incredible night away. Feel like we're back in honeymoon phase at the moment, we nearly broke the bed. Despite no baby yet life feels pretty great

How are your temps lisa? Good luck with CB foxtrot. I know nothing about opk but there's so much wisdom here. Really good luck.

How does that line up when you thought you did, anne? Mystery solved?

So glad you had a good time. I'm also feeling good about life today. Went to go see my nephew today and he's scrummy. It just also made me realise how much better I'm do in myself - two months ago I'd have just been in floods and floods of tears about it all. I feel more or less back to myself again; it seems to have taken a bloody long time!

Oh lisa, I'm so pleased for you. You should be really proud of yourself for your healing and your loveliness abs happiness for them. My friend is due soon, they've had a hell of a struggle and this is their third ivf baby. She's been so sweet to me even though we're not usually that close. She's promised me loads of cuddles! She said when she was in her 2ww with her first she had cuddles with her friend's newborn every day and she's sure it worked! I've got another friend who went into labour with her first when she cuddled a colleague's tiny baby. It can do wonders holding precious little ones. Give his head a good sniff for me!

Yep, copious ewcm was cds 11 and 12. Was watery and I had a big temp dip cd13 and it's been mega high ever since. Coverline is 35.7 this cycle too. Usually 35.5.

How's yours all looking?

Thanks, Anne, I really appreciate the encouragement - I do feel a little bit proud, or at least less cross at myself!

I think we've synced again! Temp's up, so assuming it stays that way I think I'll get crosshairs telling me I ov'd on cd14 - pretty early for me. My temp this morning was 37.22! Mine are always a bit higher than most women's because I temp vaginally (I seem to sleep with my mouth open because my mouth temps are really, really erratic), but that's still strangely hot for me...

I do too! Started doing it when my temps were very up and down. Not sure it's made much difference but I'm used to it now.

You've done brilliantly. I remember the night we came over after the scan thinking that my heart would literally break and fall out of my chest in pieces. I couldn't imagine laughing again or looking forward to anything. And yet we heal. There have been times this year that I've felt fucking miserable and it's all seemed too much (you've been there for much of it!). And others, like last night, like today, when I've felt purely happy. Hopeful, fulfilled, healthy and well and like it's going to be okay. Who knows if it will. I'll no doubt wobble again soon! But take the good times when they come and it all helps build you up and hopefully make you stronger for the next dip if there is one

Cycle buddies! Good stuff

And that is VERY high. Fx......

Oh Lisa and Anne
Thanks so much for posting positively today. I have been having an absolute shit of a day and those posts have really boosted me.
Fingers crossed for you both.
We are away at the mo. At a beautiful hotel in Ireland. It is our 2 year wedding anniversary tomorrow. I can’t believe how much of the 2 years has been ttc or pregnant. With only all the pain and grief to show for it. But seeing your posts has reminded me the reason we do all this to ourselves, because the rainbows do exist, because the smell of a newborns head is actually like drugs, for the look on a DH/dp face when the test is positive, for the chance. Because each cycle there is a chance. A beautiful spark of a chance. Some of those chances encounter difficulties that cause them to cease to be at 8 weeks or 13 weeks or 27 weeks but my word the ones that make it are surely worth all the pain and anxiety. Fingers crossed for you all.

Oh miami, you write with such heart. Sorry you're having a bastard of a day. Here if you want to rant. Sending a big squeeze.

I have to say one of the things that keeps things okay is the prospect of waking DH up again with the good news. Hope it doesn't take too long!

I've had a baking head this evening so took my temp again and it's 37.57. I feel fine and dandy so hope it's not the dreaded lurgy... Maybe I'm hallucinating slightly hence the positivity

Hope you're okay. What have you got planned for tomorrow? Will you be home? You've spoken with so much love for your husband in the past and he sounds like a jewel of a man. You've been to hell and back together but you are still together and your marriage is something precious and wonderful to be celebrated. Happy anniversary to you both

Miami what a beautiful message. I really hope you're doing ok today - remember it's absolutely fine to not be fine, and it's also fine to have things you enjoy too - I've never been through a grief like your loss of Eidleih, but I know people sometimes feel guilty for enjoying themselves even briefly after such a huge loss. Hope that your anniversary today is exactly the sort of day you need, whether that's a happy celebration of your love or mutual comfort in the face of your pain.

I hope you're feeling better today, Anne?