Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!

[harrietm87]

Hi all, thought I'd get the ball rolling on the new thread.

Welcome all with immune/natural killer cell issues.

It's been a while since a new thread so thought it might be helpful if we all added our stats:

I'm harriet, age 30, TTC#1.
3 mcs (2 at 5 weeks, 1 mmc at 9 weeks).
Hypothyroid and high NK cells.
Cycle 2 on pred!

Hi ladies! Sorry I've been so rubbish lately. Still feeling poorly all day every day and just want to sleep all the time. But as I'd mentioned my scan today I wanted to update so everyone knew things went well! Baby looked great and measured 8 weeks+6 days (I'm 8 weeks+4). I have my first midwife appointment on Monday and hoping I get a date for my 12 week scan soon. I'm going to need to try REALLY hard not to get a scan before then and having a date may help me resist...

Sorry about the BFN Luna :-( Nice glass of wine will go down well this weekend!

Take I agree that I'd take pred after you're certain you've ovulated- so ~48 hrs from static face

How are you feeling Harriet and seeking ? Have you got any ideas about your nuchal scans?

Justla its so nice to be at the second trimester and weaning of pred stage!

I feel I took my Pred about 36 hours after static face... so maybe I jilted ovulation out a bit? 48 hours seems a safer bet...

Duh and fabulous news re scan Drttc! Miserable for you feeling so rough but the wee bean is thriving 💓 - this is just the most epic success story considering you're going it med-free!

Thank you Justla Luna and Drtcc I will take the pred on Monday morning and will keep fingers and toes crossed.

I am sure 36 hours is fine Luna - I took pred from moment of static face which I am sure was too early! It just wasn't meant to be last time for you and me, next time

Justla so pleased you're starting to get more sleep and don't have too much longer on the pred!!!

Drttc sorry you're feeling so poorly but thanks for the update re your scan, great news! Difficult waiting for scans - I would want one daily! - but it sounds like your bubba is doing really well!!

Thanks Luna and Take!

Oh no Luna I'm sure 36 hours is fine! Nothing's stopping Ovulation at that point I bet!

Hi Tee4me... I've pregnancies this year- all ending in MC so I too thought husbands sperm was fine. I didn't want to pay an extra £400 for the spent coment test but we did and it also showed my husband had spent damage which can lead to a higher risk of MC. We bought the supplments (surprise surprise these were expensive!) that Mr S recommended.

I love reading all your updates ladies. It's so comforting to know we are all going through it.

I waited an extra day to take the pred this time. Only because I had 2 full days of positive OPK's so I usually just it 12/36hours post my peak surge not my first. Plus I thought it give me an extra day to wait past ovulation to test (not that I actually wait!) but I worry I'll come off the pred on day 10 and actually be pregnant but it not actually show yet.

Luna- so sorry you are out this cycle 😔. I was out last cycle. I was distraught. I'm usually really negative but that cycle I was so positive and thought I kept seeing all these signs... I said to my husband I like the name India... next think an order at work (I'm a florist) came in for someone called India so I was convinced. Then I was watching the trashy to show naked attraction (in secreteky gripped) and Emma Willis was wearing a shirt with rainbows... I was so taken aback when my test was a negative. It never gets easier does it... but really hope next cycle is your month.

Really pleased for those of you who are doing well and tapering off the Pred. 😘

Ps. I'm also eating like a horse and also feel huge. I run quite a bit too and since all of this fertility stuff I am so careful and do hardly anything. Then in the 10day wait I'm scared to get my heart rate up to much so I just keep eating! Mr S said it's ok to carry on as morning but my last gynaecologist and accupuncturist are bit advocates on testing and not pushing things. I know some women can continue to run marathons etc into pregnancy but I'm so scared to jeopardise anything.
Pps... my chin has gotten so Harry! Started electrolysis!!!

Keep up the good work warriors xx

Great news on the scan Drttc! I'm sure you will feel lots better in the glorious second trimester.
Thanks for your account Take, really interesting that the test uncovered an issue. What supplement did Dr S recommend, maybe I should just get DH on it anyway, if it's just a supplement/vitamin as opposed to prescribed medication?? Really hope it improves your chances. On the Pred front I would take it tomorrow, but that's only because I'm confident I ovulate within 24 hours of a peak opk. If you're not as sure, I'd agree with the others and plump for Monday x

Ooo interesting Soph. Wonder if the DNA in sperm deteriorates with age. DH is only 34 so I kinda ruled out that anything could be wrong there. Hmmm tempted to test now. Unless these supplements are available to all and I can put him on them anyway, just in case x

Can I attach photos on here? I'll send you the supplements he said to get. I doubt them can do any harm so yes I'd probably just do that (obvs I'm no dr though 😉) x

I feel you soph, I was SO sure I was going to be successful this month - I'm still testing all the time like a weirdo... ffs!!! Remind me how many cycles you've done now Hairy Mary 💓? (I'm more like Mental Mary... Pred has bulldozed my moods)

Yes I'd like to know what to get DH on to spice up his speem too!

Ps. My husband is 33 and fairly fit and active. Diet is good... not much drinking (I tend to give him the death stare if a beer appears these days) so I was shocked too. I did research the sperm comet test and apparently the lady who tests them in Ireland I believe is the leading dr in her field. When I googled it most of the top clinics (zita west, lister etc) all suggested that test above all others (maybe they're just on a high commission!)

This is my second cycle... I'm booked in on 13th if this one is a negative for a steroid check... anyone else had one of these? X

Speem 🙄🙄🤣

Hope this works x

God my DH is 41 and we were both monsterous party animals in our 20s... and his 30s - dare I even test his sperm 😱...

I've not been for the check up (yet), booked in for 5 Oct in case 2nd cycle bombs too

Great thanks for the photo!

After the test Mr s said depending on the serverity would depend on the does required and whether we had to wait 3 months to try or not. But we got the go ahead and he never mentioned a specific dose so we just follow the packet instructions. I probably should have asked him but think I was over the questions on that visit!

So this is two different supplements he's on?

I shall google the living shit out of this now #saturdaynightsorted

Thanks for this!! Will get researching 🤓
I'm booked in on 25th September for if my 2nd cycle fails. Didn't know about a steroid test though? Assume we'd just review how things are going. I want to talk to him about super ovulation!! x

Yeah those two. He's also still on his wellman conception tablets that he's been on since January. After lots of research I've done he's also on a high quality coq10. I mentioned his to mr S who dismissed it (as he did with 99% of the advice we'd been given from every other medical professional). But then I read the coq10 is on one of these supplements he recommendeds.

I also read lots about coq10 in a book called it starts with the egg... that's an interesting read I found. Part of me has just been trying to follow mr s's advice to the full in order to know I've given it everything which I have been doing apart from these two additional ones.

How many cycles have you ladies been on the pred/seeing mr s etc? X

What's super ovulation? Oh think it's just a steroid check... too see how your body has been reacting to the steroids or something if your not pregnant after the first two. That's what Nadia midwife lady emailed when I just tried to get more tablets without a visit 😂

Soph, these seems fairly similar multi vits, but I'm assuming because of the issue Dr S told your OH to take both, or to pick one?

I want super Ov too... might pull out the Age Card at my appointment 😝

He had to take both. On one of the websites for them it's supposed to do a lot for sperm health- and the success rate regenerating good sperm on it was huge x (I can't remember which one of the two that was about though).