Immune/NK issues - aka Pred Thread no.20!

[harrietm87]

Hi all, thought I'd get the ball rolling on the new thread.

Welcome all with immune/natural killer cell issues.

It's been a while since a new thread so thought it might be helpful if we all added our stats:

I'm harriet, age 30, TTC#1.
3 mcs (2 at 5 weeks, 1 mmc at 9 weeks).
Hypothyroid and high NK cells.
Cycle 2 on pred!

Alas Just, the bearded man was an emoji version of the bearded pred lady I hope to be soon...

Great news re your friend - how exciting for her!!!

Just, yes it sounds like the same book. It's very good. I used it to solve a problem with DP in our tempestuous and around days! Will never know for sure how much it helped but it made me feel productive 😂

Congrats to your friend! I've heard Denmark for sperm donors. And Craig's List for finding people to co-parent with, but as an option not a recommendation, as I've heard some horror stories. Seems there are some real perverts not there!

A woman I know got dumped in her mid 30s by her bf of 15 years. She couldn't afford a donor so she simply had multiple one night stands and got pregnant aged 37-38. It's one of eight possible guys and she has no idea who, but officially it's one of two 😉 Obviously a risky strategy but it worked out well and she has a gorgeous little boy and no STDs that I'm aware of! I admired her to be honest. She just wanted to be a mum and did it.

Ohhhh lol Luna! I have that very same rash! Although this emoji is more representative of my facial hair 🦁

Haha Poppy. Well I wouldn't want to say I had suggested that to her... as that would be totally immoral! 😂 But think she's keen on seeing medical history etc... 'any history or heart disease, auto immune diseases etc?' along with 'I'll provide the condoms' may raise red flags haha.
I'll check that book out then! Thanks for the ideas. She's looking at lister clinic who use European sperm doners which are supposed to be good too :)

Tash.. TASH! Not rash lol

What is it with the extra facial hair! I'm so hairy!! So glam!!

Ahhh that's so exciting for your friend just! I hope she finds somewhere and someone suitable soon!! Massive respect to anyone willing to go it alone and make things happen!!

Your friend sounds brilliant poppy.. not the most normal way around things, but a way nonetheless! Good for her!!

Amy Glad you're feeling better today. Positive mental attitude!!

Idk Seeking but my concealer just highlights it all! Lol

Btw, I had totally suggested that to her Poppy- not sure if my attempt at humour made it unclear haha

Was thinking about how Stuckinstressville is getting on. And also Starshine. If any of you are still lurking, would love an update 😊

Also Drttc, when is your next scan? Did you have one recently?

Xxx

Luna did you test again?! Xx

Did Dr S ask any of your men to do a DNA semen analysis? My DH already did a basic one (volume, mobility, motility), but Dr S gave me a leaflet on our first visit and we haven't bothered, since the test results uncovered my apparent issues. Just wondering if we should... 🤔 xx

Hello all, happy Friday!

luna how are you? Did you test again?

tee no he didn't, though i think because when I saw him I'd just been pregnant twice in 2 months so it was clear it was all down to me and nothing to do with DH. Might be different for you as I think you said it's been a while since you last conceived?

just good on your friend! My mum is a single mum (not through choice) and we had an awesome childhood. I would absolutely have done the same if I hadn't met DH in time.

Hope everyone has good weekends planned. I'm going to another wedding tomorrow. Not really looking forward to having to squeeze fatly into my dress and hide not drinking! But then it's my wedding anniversary on Sunday so having a nice day out with DH. Will hopefully involve pizza...

God bless the pizza 🍕 and happy anniversary Harriet!

No joy for me this time... annoying as like many of us, I've fallen preg 1st time every other time - hopefully the pred will not mess up my cycle and next month will be the one (June baby ☀️) - until then a few tears, a lot of ice cream and plenty of mindful thankfulness at everything else I have ✌️

Enjoy the weekend sisters 💓

Aw luna I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure it took me a month to get used to the pred, and then it happened in month 2 for me - have faith! And how lovely would a June baby be!

Well bbt started this morning missed the opportunity to do the clear blue monitor but I will see how bbt and opk's do. DH is away this weekend and I am working Sunday so will have a snuggle Sunday when he is home.
I am fed up of the hunger when on Pred, but today have not had anything unhealthy even turned down Birthday Cake 2 days in a row. But I need to loose weight.

Ah Happy Anniversary for Sunday Harriet!
Well interestingly this leaflet was to do with semen quality and miscarriage (a separate issue from semen quality and failing to conceive) They review the DNA of the swimmers to decipher if that could be contributing to MC, so I assumed he was recommending to all his patients. It's £400 so I might just ask him to explain it again on my next follow up. I wonder what you could even do if the DNA came back as poor.

Sorry Luna, we will follow in Harriet's footsteps and strike gold in round 2 ✌🏻👊🏻
Well done Sheepy! I resisted our usual Friday Indian takeaway (after last weeks indigestion episode), and had a healthy salmon noodle salad with tonnes of veg. But then I pigged out on a humungous chocolate eclair for pud, whoops! 🙈

Oh sorry Luna, I know you must be so disappointed ❤️ Face plant the ice cream and appreciate a smooth face for another month. Sending moonface love your way- A Gemini June baby! You'll be giving birth when all the winter bugs have vacated the hospitals so that's gotta be a plus!

Happy anniversary Harriet! What a great way to celebrate your love for each other, by rubbing your lil miracle bump together.
How are your symptoms? Interfering with work?
I totally agree with the single parent thing. So many women have children under really difficult conditions, addiction, poverty, severe mental and physical disabilities- she will do great :)

Hi Tee, I did one with my GP (not actually WITH him but he booked for hubby to go to hospital for one) but Mr S didn't suggest or ask for one. Maybe you could just get an NHS freeby if you're interested to know? Hope everything else is good with you.

Happy Friday pred heads 💕💕

Xx

I'm tapering off pred Sheepy, thought the hunger would go but alas... I'm still eating like a pig! Trying to fill myself with home made soup rather than choccy and chips... good luck with staying healthy!

Smoothies seem to be keeping hunger at bay. Just focusing on the end goal

Tee, I read an interesting article that those taking 5+mg of Pred for more than 7 days can suffer extreme indigestion as part of the withdrawals - sounds like what you had Hun!! Ouch!!

Sheepy, I've found the Pred did nothing to my appetite, but it has made swollowing painful and given me a 5 day killer headache! (Apparently 5/100 people get these symptoms - great 🙄) - good news is that apparently when we come off the Pred for good, we may lose weight 👌👌 but then we'll be pregnant so might not feel super skinny lol!

Drttc I think it's scan day today!!? ❤️

My weight definitely levelled out once I was off it completely last time... I hope it does the same this time round!!

Sorry your out this month Luna, but use it to enjoy all the lovely things you can't do if pg ... like wine!!
Also I think a lot of recurrent miscarriers tend to fall pg very quickly, I read an interesting article once that suggested some women's bodies accept eggs that aren't perfect too readily and which wouldn't result in a viable pregnancy anyway... just think that your body is being more selective now and waiting for the best egg! I'm sure you won't be waiting too long!

Hope you all have fab weekends... I'm off to work! Eurghhhh!

Have a good day everyone I am off to a craft workshop with one of my favourite artists this morning then back to do housework and cook tea.
Have a good day

Interesting Seeking! Yes only the golden eggs from now please body, you crazy weirdo...

Hope work flies by and everyone else enjoys pottering/weddings etc. ☀️

Hi all

Sorry Luna that was me last month and it's so disappointing isn't it? I think my subconscious was convinced it would happen as I was now seeing Dr S, taking pred and therefore everything would just fall into place! We just gotta keep going and as you say be grateful for what we have. It's so easy to forget to live our precious lives while trying to conceive.

Happy anniversary Harriet hope the sun shines for you both on Sunday!

Tee4mee my partner had the test you are talking about and it did show significant sperm damage which could be playing a part in our miscarriages. He now takes a supplement recommended by Dr S and will also be seeing a specialist at the clinic to hopefully find out reasons and further treatment. We were shocked as I've had 3 pregnancies with him but they have all ended in miscarriage so who knows.

I know there was a discussion about this but can I just ask what the consensus was on when to start taking pred? Was it 24hrs after static face or 48hrs? I tested twice yesterday, flashing face in the morning and then static at 7pm. Should I start taking on Sunday am or Monday am, don't want to get it wrong!

Thanks you lovely people. Glad to be on this tumultuous journey with you all. Xx

Hi Take4, I think the ladies in here agreed it was day after peak ovulation. I took mine on day of peak ovulation. So either is probably fine. Am sure they may me some more scientific responses to come!

Working on a Saturday AND you're dealing with a stressful pregnancy! Poor you Seeking.

I thought it was Drttc's scan day too Luna- if so, good luck Drttc 🤞🏻

Observation on pred that may interest some, im on my last day of 2 tabs a day - tapering off. My sleeping patterns have been sketchy during pregnancy, 5-6h per night of broken sleep (waking up several times throughout night) but now I'm sleeping more solidly but with very crazy dreams!! So if anyone is having sleep problems from pred, you can look forward to some relief and funny dreams!

Working on a Saturday AND you're dealing with a stressful pregnancy! Poor you Seeking.

I thought it was Drttc's scan day too Luna- if so, good luck Drttc 🤞🏻

Observation on pred that may interest some, im on my last day of 2 tabs a day - tapering off. My sleeping patterns have been sketchy during pregnancy, 5-6h per night of broken sleep (waking up several times throughout night) but now I'm sleeping more solidly but with very crazy dreams!! So if anyone is having sleep problems from pred, you can look forward to some relief and funny dreams!

Good luck if your scan is today Drttc! I remember you saying it was a Saturday I think 🤞🏻

Poppy, are you able to try this month? I lost track during the Zika investigations

Pred report- am down to my last day of 2 tabs and tomorrow will be taking 1 pill for 4 days then off. I can report better more solid sleep already- and waking up later too. And unfortunately a bit of nausea earlier in the day. Just thought this may be a comfort interest for those having sleep problems 😊

Xxx

Hopefully your DHs sperm will be better after the supplements... it takes 3 months for new sperm to work they way out so fingers crossed you won't be siting for too long for your bfp. I'd take it Monday am just to be sure. Won't make much difference in the immune front either way.

Happy anniversary Harriet, missed that earlier. Hope the wedding isn't too hard for you to be sneaky with your drinks!
I've got on in two weeks but I'll be past the first trimester then and will tell people. People would guess with me anyway.. I like a good glass (or 4!) of wine! Haha!

Omg.... I'm sorry for that. I was trying to paste a post from earlier and it wasn't showing, so I re wrote it.
What a bloomin mess... SORRY

I really don't know Take! The flashy face means that you will ovulate in the next 24/36 hours... so that could be today from around 7pm... so I recon bosh the Pred tomorrow morning?

I hate the Pred roulette!

Oh god so now I'm thinking about crappy sperm!