Temp Buds 5

[minxi]

Seaside72 - tbc CD3 LP13 (13th cycle - lucky 13 I hope?! )
LondonLottie - tbc CD4 LP10 (6th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - tbc CD7 LP13(5th cycle)
Fresco - tbc CD8
weepootleflump - tbc CD8 (4th cycle ttc)
Duchesse- tbc CD9 LP13/14? (6th cycle since m/c, 43rd cycle overall)
lissie - tbc CD14 (1st cycle since ep)
Mum03 ? tbc LP14 (4th cycle ttc)
Gracie14 - tbc CD15 (7th cycle ttc)
Rattling - tbc CD15 LP9 (15th cycle ttc)
insywinsyspider - tbc cd17 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - tbc CD20 5dpo LP12 (7th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.98 cd25 8 DPO LP11 (9th cycle ttc with focus - off depo 26months!!!!)
MrsMcJnr ? tbc cd25 (9th cycle TTC, Cycle 8, BFP then Miscarried @ 10 weeks) (Lp norm 10 ? 12 days)

Set up a new thread - old one was too long!!

FF has moved my ovulation to cd17 so am still 8dpo.... don't feel too positive about this month either roll on to af starting so I can start the clomid hopefully that will work for me!!

Minxi - The full moon is only relevant if you were born at a full moon - I think?
I am an aquarian too - we are creative

Mum03 - ° CD2 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.2° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD6 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD7 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD9 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD9 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.60° CD10 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD15 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD16 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD19 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD23 4/5?dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD25 6DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

getting cooler - just had fab pedicure and manicure and feeling refreshed and relazed..off to make myself some lunch and relax in the garden for an hour before I collect DS to take him swimming and then back home to make tea for mine and neighbours then off to theatre tonight so busy busy !!
Hope everyone else all ok x

Mum03 - ° CD2 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.2° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD6 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD7 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD9 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD9 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.60° CD10 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD15 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD16 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD19 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD23 4/5?dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD25 6DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

minxi - sounds like a brilliant day. Enjoy and good luck for tomorrow.

It is such a gorgeous day today, just the right combo of sun and breeze. Lush.

Mum03 - 36.6° CD2 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.2° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD6 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD7 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD9 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD9 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.60° CD10 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD15 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD16 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD19 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° CD23 4/5?dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD25 6DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

I'M BACK ! Yep after a good weep on dh's shoulder last night and feeling the worst I have since this ttc lark, I am feeling a little less pessamistic this morning. dh's hugs and his prayers to give us super-spermies and fertile eggies, made me start to put some more sensible focus on the whole thing.
My positive thoughts : 1) I did not want to be pg this month and be due to give birth at my SIL wedding. 2) I have to go painting soon and the fumes and standing on wobbly planks to reach the high bits would not be good for a pg girl. 3) dh has agreed to abstain totally from alcohol this month during the important phase and 4) I checked my next possible due date - and it is on my birthday!!!! So how's that for positive thinking on cd2

Minxi - enjoy your busy day.

Nappy - I agree the weather is fantastic.

Rah - have fun in Cardiff, come back and tell us what you did/got.

Seaside - did you sort out which temp to use yesterday?

Rattling - sorry to hear the dh test results, I hope that taking a break from temping helps you to go on holiday relaxed and enjoy yourself.

Greedy, Fettle, Honeyapple - hi to you all, hope you are all soon blooming nicely!

MrsMc - are you coping in the 2ww, so annoying when the software changes your ov day, does it to me regularly!!!

Ready and Beansprout - you inspired me to pick myself up and stop moping you both bounced back so quickly (Beansprout - hope you are still ok?)

Duchesse - glad you found your old thermometer, did you find your new one yet?

Jess - how are you, you sounded a little low in the last post I read from you, are you ok?

Iwillbe - hi how are you doing?

Cityangel - haven't heard from you in a while- are you around?

Lottie - big hi to you too, hope you are enjoying yourself. I have just got an invite to a wedding in Spain next March - I have never been there so I am looking forward to it, I might have to come looking for advice from you on Spain nearer the time!

I hope I have not missed anyone out, if I have please give me a shout.

Mum03 - 36.6° CD2 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.2° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD6 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD7 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD9 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD9 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.60° CD10 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD15 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD16 LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD19 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? 36.523 5/6dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD25 6DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Sorry Mum03 Another chance in May though! I like your positive thinking! I?m imaging all sorts of symptoms I even feel hopeful only 5 or 6 dpo for god?s sake!

Nappyvalley ? hello hon! 1973 lady like me!

Ready ? I put you in the wrong place in the running by accident and felt very insensitive it LOST SPOILER ? she did indeed say Kate was next (mind
you, not many other women that we know about and trust they?ve had their fill of analysing Claire!) Good point, where is Weepottle? That was very naughty about Charlotte Church!

Minxi ? good luck this cycle! Peace has prevailed in the Mc household since last Thurs now I?m so hoping this is a lucky cycle for many of us! Sounds like you are having a nice time!

RahRah ? hope the pump arrives! Bbbbbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrr! Don?t fall into Torchwood when out shopping now!

Lottie ? thinking of you hon I hope things are becoming clearer cut.

mum03 and ready - i am REALLY sorry to see you both at the top of the list again. but pleased to see you both seem so perky! are you both going to do it together this month?........... go on!............. please!
we are going to need some more of you on the ttc graduates thread soon as people start dropping off the other end, so get your skates on girls!!! or i will be left chatting on my own!

Mum03 - 36.6° CD2 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.2° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD6 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD7 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD9 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD9 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.60° CD10 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD15 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.78° CD16 3dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD19 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? 36.523 5/6dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD25 6DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Hi all - have had a manic day and it is far from ver so not much time for a mega post.

Mum03 so sorry I know you were really hopeful - last month I foolishly though that being really hopeful would not make much diff as I get depressed when AF arrives anyway - but it was way worse - like a fall from a great height. It such a kick in the teeth - well done for bouncing back - it took me 10 days this month

MrsMc - Thanks for the reassurance over software & temp issues! Actually I am still a bit confused as if I stuck with low temp yesterday then todays temp rise was really big so could be ov yesterday?? but I am sure it was more likely CD13 If I go with the lottie temp theory - go with highest temp as you must have gotten that hot to get it and also the rule of thumb thing where you go with the temp that matches your "pattern" I guess I would go with the higher temp for yesteday and then it all looks good - phew - how boring was that!

Ready well done for being positive and your usual fabulous chipper self - did I see mention of the voice of an angel - let me at her!!

Minxi - of your mani/pedi!

NappyValley - its a scorcher down here - and I have been stuck inside all day on the phone and email No fair!

Rah - ohh shopping in Cardiff - fantastic - < shhh I'm with Ready you know what to do if you see la Church!> sorry MrsMc

greedy I know - we need some temp bud representation on the 08 AN boards and we need it soon!

Back later

Mum03 - 36.6° CD2 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.2° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - 36.4° CD6 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD7 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD9 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD9 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.60° CD10 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD15 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.78° CD16 3dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD19 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? 36.523 5/6dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD25 6DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Hi everyone,

Sorry to see you back at the top mumo3 and Ready. The CD1 feeling really is uniquely depressing. I really feel for you. That horrible feeling of all or nothing. There are no half measures, we are either pregnant or we are not, and we seem to not be. I find it harder each month to summon up the blind optimism that this could be the month....

Rah - where in Welsh Wales are you? I went to college in Swansea, bloody lovely part of the world. Let me know if you want me to have a less-walking-more-shopping type word with your dh.

Nappy - where is this pregnancy panda of which you speak?!

Seaside - how are you lovely one?

Big hello to everyone else. Will try and post more later!

I'm 37 (yep, born in 1969). Not that this depresses me or anything....

Mum03 - ° CD3 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD5 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD6 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD7 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD8 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD10 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD10 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD11 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - ° CD16 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD17 4dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD20 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 6/7dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD26 7DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Morning all

Mum03 - ° CD3 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD5 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD6 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD7 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD8 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD10 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD10 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD11 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD16 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD17 4dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD20 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 6/7dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD26 7DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

I'm getting annoyed now, I have got mixed signs about whether I am going to ovulate..

Positives that will:

1. Some side stomach pains yesterday (could of been the Indian I had)
2. A change in CM, but only a little bit

Negatives that not near:

1. Normally show clear ferning, can only just see a little bit today
2. negative OPK
3. No watery CM yet, normally get that for a while before ovulation

ARRRRGGGGGG - this is typical... down in wales, with a relaxed husband and no bloody eggs appearing! WTF!!! Why is my body so bloody annoying! Latest I have ever ovulated before is CD18 in last 3 months, and have little or no signs like normally so don't think it will happen any time soon.

If I had seen Charlotte Church - it would of been in the newspapers

We are just outside Swansea and parked in Swansea yesterday to catch the train to Cardiff. The shops were a bit pants to be honest in Cardiff... was not impressed. I got a T-Shirt from Zara, a lovely dress from Ted Baker and a skirt and a top from Top shop. So got my fill

I hope everyone is well...I'm off to the beach now, so catch you all later.

Mum03 - ° CD3 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD5 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD6 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD7 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD8 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD10 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD10 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD11 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD16 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD17 4dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD20 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 6/7dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD26 7DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Rah - I hear your frustration, but seriously hun relax and enjoy Wales and if you are able to bump uglies at your MIL (it is a no fly zone in our campaign) do it anyway eggs or no eggs. those salty swimmers last up to 5 days so you never know.

I lived just north of Swansea in a village called Ynestawe (or something like that) for 3 months. It rained EVERY day at 4pm. I was working doing some training at the Ford plant. But there was some great scenery out of the city though. Have fun - that's and order!!

Seaside - hope you ge time today for a pleasant stroll on the beach in the evening sunshine or am I jsut having romantic images of Cornwall!!

Mum03 - sorry you are back at the top. Well done on great attitude and CD1 bounce back. I think a good cry gets the feeling over with quicker. I have to confess about feeling v positive about May too, which I am trying to talk myself out of!!

MrsMc - fingers crossed but try to stop imagining symptoms or you might go a little mad. You will just have to wait until your body catches up with your instinct.

Mum03 - ° CD3 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD7 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD8 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD10 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD10 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD11 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD16 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD17 4dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD20 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 6/7dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD26 7DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

I may have messed up the CDs when I did them the other day - I messed up my own so what hope is there! Please check your CDs girls. Apologies

Mum03 - ° CD3 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.06° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD7 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD8 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD10 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD10 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD11 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD16 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD17 4dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD20 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 6/7dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD26 7DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

• forgot my temp. eejit.

Does anyone know anything about Starlings? Any idea when the little ?uns will fly the nest and allow us to have the hole boarded up and repainted??

Rah So? what dress did you get from Ted Baker? Was it this? Or this? Got my eye on them
Looking at your chart, you?ve had a temperature dip, which could mean that you will ovulate tomorrow. Key thing is to relax and try not to worry about it. Your eggs are on holiday too you know so if they want to take their time ? then they will ? and relaxed eggs are best ? they let all the sperm hit on them Enjoy your holiday and try not to worry!!
at you going to the beach ? I could just lay on the beach right now!

Seaside - It?s like scrappy doo (am I showing my age!?) ?lemme at ?em?
I missed the temperature conundrum ? I don?t know how! But I have to say that I am also of the school of thought that your thermometer can only show a reading as hot as you are ? it can give a lower reading for a variety of reasons (probe too cold and cools surrounding area, probe not in complete contact etc) but I fail to see how it can give an abnormal high temp. Go with the high one. If it looks wrong on the chart ? disregard it

MrsMc - That was my fault, I bolded CD2, so probably made you feel bad. Sorry hon, I was only bolding it as an alteration. Hope you didn?t think I was mithering? Sorry I made you feel bad. towards The Chain Smoking Binge Drinker.
How are you? Hope you are doing good ? and not worrying about ovulation now? Keeping fingers crossed for you.

Greedy - Will do what I can to never join the top of the list! Fingers crossed huh! Hope you are ok?

Mum03 - Glad you are feeling positive ? I love your positive thoughts ? and it would be super cool for your baby to be born on your birthday! I checked my next EDD (is that jinxing do you think?) and it is 6 days before my birthday ? so here?s hoping huh!!! We really shouldn?t keep letting greedy down like this either

Minxi - How was your night out with the girls? Did you get what you wanted when you got home?

Beansprout - Yep. CD1 is a shocker isn?t it. And I know what you mean about the blind optimism ? it gets harder and harder each month. But we have to keep going don?t we! It?s what we do! It?s who we are!

NappyValley - Gearing up for Operation Fertilise? Couldn?t resist an army analogy for you! Hope you are doing ok?

Iwillbe - Where are you chick? Been awfully quiet?

Rattling - Hope you are enjoying not temping ? not sure if you are lurking? Hope all is well.

Duchesse - You ok?? Saw you were having some issues with the OPKs on another thread? Some people just don?t get on with them ? don?t beat yourself up about it.

Jess - Hope you are ok?

Cityangel - Hope you are still having a wonderful time Stateside!

The Graduates ? hope you are blooming in the gorgeous weather!!

Definately lurking. And it's nonsense about temping adding stress. The stress comes entirely from being at the bottom of the list .

Hello to everyone!

Rattling ? sorry to hear that the results are still pretty poor I wish I knew what to suggest to help improve things. Enjoy the temping break don?t leave us though!

Greedy ? I was thinking that about the need for new graduates when I was on that thread earlier, I cannot believe that so many are nearly there. Its my 1st wedding anniversary on 2nd June so that?s roughly when we started TTC, I?m glad no one showed me a crystal ball. My Mum and sis both had babies before their 1st anniversary

Seaside ? will have to go for a chart spot and come back to you.

Beansprout ? nice to see you (though of course I wish you were just visiting) are you ok?

Hello Minxi

Rahrah ? hope OV catches up with you soon! Have fun!

NappyValley love your chat! My Sis lives in Cardiff, seems to rain ALL the time! I hear you on the symptoms! I got bored of symptom spotting last time round but I guess I haven?t done it for a while, sure the novelty will wear off when I remember that most of them mean sod all or weren?t actually there at all

Hey Ready we have starlings too, noisy blighters (and messy) aren?t they? No worries about the temps, I just didn?t want to upset you. I?m ok, still think I?m 7dpo and not 6!

Did not temp this morning as I was woken every 1/2 hour from 6am with children needing to be cuddled/put back to bed/nappy removed etc. I might temp tomorrow or I might leave it a few days anyway.

Seaside - I don't think I replied about my house building blog, please do email me if you want to see the blog,: thingingoftrying @ yahoo.co. uk (just leave out the spaces) I don't mind anyone seeing it, just don't want to put the link here on the public site (I know I am weird!) By emailing me Ready managed to work out my real name!!!

Went round the whole of our new house today changing all the lightbulbs from normal ones to energy saving ones, so feeling self-rightous!!!

Mum03 - ° CD3 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.06° CD4 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD5 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD7 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - 36.29° CD8 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD10 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - ° CD10 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD11 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD16 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.83° CD17 4dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD20 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 6/7dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD26 7DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Hi all - well it's a bit late for my temp - we are nearly into tomorrow now!! Anyway I think mine is a bit unreliable as I didn't get much sleep last night and was awake at 4am so no good 4 hours of sleep before temp taking.

Mum03 - will email you for the blog link would love to see it! Did you find good energy saving lightbulbs - all the ones I have bought give off a grim sort of fluro style of light

greedy and graduates- I must confess to having a peek on your graduates thread and I am so about the lack of new grads - I might be wrong but I think that there are no Nov, Dec or Jan EDD's - whats going on!! !

beansprout - sending you a big {{{hug}}}

Rah - sorry you have no clear signs of OV - but go for it
all the same -how many stories are there about it happening when you least expect it And sorry Cardiff shopping wasn't up to scratch - I thought it was really good - bummer

NappyValley -Your romantic images of Cornwall are all true and more - the sunsets are amazing and our beach is stunning- but unfortunately today I have been in meetings all day and barely saw the sun feeling very hard done by (and pale )

Ready - Ohh- I had forgotten about Scrappy Doo!! That is exactly the "lemme at 'em" to which I was referring

Rattling - IKWYM about bottom of the list stress - my cycles are shorter than most so I usually get to hide behind someone and then leap frog back to the top - in fact I think I am gradually lapping everyone

MrsMc - hope you are doing OK - absolutely know where you are coming from with the anniversary blues - it is our 2nd ann in 2 weeks and if you had told me 2 years ago that we would not have a baby by then I would have been mortified
I was browsing some info on acupuncture earlier and the following quote really interested me and I thought I would pass it on - I did not want to crash the TTC after M/C thread as it may be insensitive but I thought this info was fascinating as I had always assumed that once the sperm has met the egg and you get a BFP its was home and dry IYKWIM? (naive I know but it is a revelation to me that m/c's could as well be caused by a bad sperm.

"But a successful pregnancy requires more than a successful fertilization. Survivability is highly depended on the quality of the sperm. A better sperm will generally have a better morphology (shape) which reflects how well the chromosomes are packed in the head of a sperm. In general, a better shaped sperm will have better physiological functions and expressions than a poorly formed or shaped sperm. It logical to assume that a good looking sperm will be have better DNAs and will result better embryos. Less miscarriages."

Ok I'm off to bed

Mum03 - ° CD4 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - ° CD5 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD6 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD8 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD9 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD11 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - 36.1° CD11 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD12 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD17 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD18 5dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD21 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 7/9dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD27 8DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Hi all, Sorry I haven't posted for a few days, but I've been feeling a bit down . I had another weird AF. 4 days of proper bleeding (normal) followed by 6 days of intermittent very light spotting (I would normally have 1 day of this). This is pretty much the same as my last AF. I've read that post-m/c AFs can be odd, so I'm hoping that's all it is. I've made an appt to see my gp next week though. It's so frustrating. I'll have no bleeding for hours, so I think it's finished and then it'll start up again. I've had nothing now since yesterday lunchtime so hopefully that's it. I was getting so stressed out thinking that I was going to OV before AF had finished. I'm feeling a bit more cheerful today and it is nearly the weekend. My temps are all over the place at the moment though. Yesterday my temp plummeted to 35.65 and then today it had shot up to 36.3. I took it a second time today and it was 36.1. This is a more reasonable pre-OV temp for me so I decided to stick with it. I'm worried that the way things are going I won't know from my temps if I have OV'd or not.

Hope you are all ok. Sorry to see Mum03 and Ready back at the top of the list. It's good that you're feeling positive this month. I am completely disillusioned this month - the worst I've felt since this whole nightmare (ttc) began. Can you believe that I once thought ttc would be fun???

jess sorry you are feeling so low. I know you are desperate to conceive but it sounds like your body is still healing. Going to the docs sounds like a good idea as it will be good to get some reassurance. But don't be down, even if you are spotting that does not stop you trying, it takes the egg a few days once conceived to get to the uterus so no worries. I feel the need to get my tea wagon out and pop round and give you a GIANT hug. You will get there and then this nightmare will all seem less stressful.

mum03 would also like to see blog so will email you. Also sympathise with bad night. it was my turn last night as jnr hurt arm at nursery and was awake a lot in night. Then we spent morning umming and arring and finally decided that I have gone to work and DH is taking Ds to casualty. With all that I totally forgot to temp this morning.

all I have just received a note from the Pregnancy Panda that it has been away in hollywood smoozing with celebs and apologises for abscence but promises to be better at delivery of BFP to us this month.

Rattling - Nice to see you. I am glad you have said that it?s nonsense that the temping adds the stress. That was my thought too ? it?s the trying for a baby that is stressful! Hope you are ok?

MrsMcJnr - Starlings clearly have good taste in property ? you are right, they are SO messy ? I have had to wash my car every few days because they cover it with poo! And the noise!! I am hoping for Housemartins next year ? much quieter!
With the dpo ? I would say that you trust your own instincts with it ? if ov usually follows a + the next day, then I would say continue with that trend! The software can?t be 100% accurate. Have you tried removing some factors (such as temp) to see if it changes? As we know the temps can be distorted for many reasons. Let us know But try not to worry about it!
Also wanted to say ? I know what you mean about the crystal ball ? our 3rd anniversary is next month ? I am pretty certain that large chunks of our family must assume I am barren

Mum03 - It?s not weird to not want to post your blog details on a public forum! We all understand. I sometimes have to remind myself that it?s not just us ladies that can see this thread! I am pretty sure if someone knew me in RL they would be able to work me out from the things I say. It?s nice to have some anonymity from the world
Chuckle at the energy saving lightbulbs, shine that halo, girl!! I am ashamed to admit we don?t have any energy saving bulbs in this house ? but then we have a lot of halogen lights ? is that worse still?
Have you decided on the flooring yet?? I showed DH your blog ? hope you don?t mind. He was really impressed with the underfloor heating ? a dream of his.

Seaside - Been meaning to ask what was so manic about your day the other day, and if you have recovered sufficiently?

That was really interesting about the miscarriage incidences and the quality of sperm. I hadn?t really thought about it in those terms, but it does make sense. It?s easy to assume that once fertilisation occurs the rest is down to the women ? and it is good to know that that is not necessarily the case. I would have thought those that have suffered miscarriage would take some guilt from themselves in light of that. Good on your for posting it.
Scrappy doo was adorable!
My fingers are crossed that your 2nd anniversary brings wonderful wonderful news!!

Greedy - I wanna be a Graduate and join your club ? it?s amazing how fast time flies that people are leaving that thread too . I think I know a few of the ladies? obviously Honeyapple and Fettle - but certainly Bodkin (is she still there?) - tell her and those that know me I said hello and wish them all well. If you wouldn?t mind?

Jess - I am really sorry that things are not back to normal for you. It?s not what you need after everything you have been through. So (big hug). It?s good that you are going to see your GP. In the meantime, take it easy and try to get lots of TLC.
I know what you mean about thinking that ttc would be fun ? I foolishly thought that too when we first started ? 8 failed cycles later I am starting to wonder! I think that you do get to a certain point and you feel the lowest you?ve felt. That was me last week, and Seaside not long before that ? so you are not alone in having those feelings. I know that doesn?t really help ? but just to let you know we are all here for you.

Rah - Are you a bronze goddess today after your day at the beach? I am still waiting to find out if the dresses I linked to were in your shopping bag! I know, I am so nosy aren?t I! So when do you have to come home from Wales? Hope you are ok? And did you try my trick of natural yoghurt on sunburn? No-one believes me, but a Cypriot fella told me and it really works!

NappyValley - Oh no, sorry to hear about NappyJunior - hope there is no break ? but getting him seen will put your mind at rest, I hope. Let us know won?t you!
That Pregnancy Panda Why I oughta! Fingers crossed she (?) makes up for the celeb schmoozing with a bumper supply of May BFPs!

Big Hello to everyone else ? hope all is well. The weather seems to be on the slide here ? hope everyone else is still getting the sun!!

Mum03 - ° CD4 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.22° CD5 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD6 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD8 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD9 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD11 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - 36.1° CD11 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD12 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD17 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD18 5dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD21 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 7/9dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD27 8DPO LP10 (16th cycle)

Well AF arrived today - back to a short cycle, and 7 day LP!! Not , just . Suspect I'll be hit by a small bout of depression later. At least I can join in with the big night out tonight. Plan to do NO work today, just sit around drinking mucho caffeine - I've been so healthy and caffeine free this month!!

I'll be back later to catch up on how everyone else is doing. At the moment I can only wallow in my own hopelessness!

Rattling - I am so sorry to hear that sweets. 7 day LP is very short isn't it. What did your GP say about that? I'm sure you've said, but I don't want to assume that what is in my head is correct. I have a tendency to get things wrong
Try to enjoy your night out - and be careful with the caffeine chick, you'll get a rush and be shaking and twitching
((Big hug))

Morning all

Mum03 - ° CD4 LP12 (6th cycle)
Ready - 36.22° CD5 LP12 (9th cycle)
CityAngel - ° CD6 LP10 (9th cycle)
beansprout - ° CD8 LP14 (12th cycle)
NappyValley - ° CD9 LP9-14(9th cycle)
iwillbe - ° CD11 LP (11th cycle)
Jess1996 - 36.1° CD11 LP14 (3rd cycle since m/c, 8th cycle total)
Minxi - 36.57° CD12 LP11 (12th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.1° CD17 LP12(6th cycle)
seaside72 - ° CD18 5dpo LP12 (14th cycle)
duchesse - ° CD21 - LP14 (7th cycle since m/c, 44th cycle ftc)
MrsMc ? ° 7/9dpo LP 10-12 (10th cycle)
Rattling - ° CD27 8DPO LP10 (16th cycle)