Temp Buds 5

[minxi]

Seaside72 - tbc CD3 LP13 (13th cycle - lucky 13 I hope?! )
LondonLottie - tbc CD4 LP10 (6th cycle ttc)
Rahrah - tbc CD7 LP13(5th cycle)
Fresco - tbc CD8
weepootleflump - tbc CD8 (4th cycle ttc)
Duchesse- tbc CD9 LP13/14? (6th cycle since m/c, 43rd cycle overall)
lissie - tbc CD14 (1st cycle since ep)
Mum03 ? tbc LP14 (4th cycle ttc)
Gracie14 - tbc CD15 (7th cycle ttc)
Rattling - tbc CD15 LP9 (15th cycle ttc)
insywinsyspider - tbc cd17 (2nd cycle ttc)
Ready - tbc CD20 5dpo LP12 (7th cycle ttc)
Minxi - 36.98 cd25 8 DPO LP11 (9th cycle ttc with focus - off depo 26months!!!!)
MrsMcJnr ? tbc cd25 (9th cycle TTC, Cycle 8, BFP then Miscarried @ 10 weeks) (Lp norm 10 ? 12 days)

Set up a new thread - old one was too long!!

FF has moved my ovulation to cd17 so am still 8dpo.... don't feel too positive about this month either roll on to af starting so I can start the clomid hopefully that will work for me!!

Rampant - My sweet dh does not drink wine normally either - he buys it for me, but not really good at choosing, I try to get it normally to ensure it is drinkable. I don't normally drink while ttc, so the selection was poor, and then I did not enjoy it - oh well, it will do for cooking. Mmm chicken and white wine sause for tonight me thinks!

Af due tomorrow and I am having mood-swings but the bucket-load. I thought that by not-temping I would obsess a little less, but no - still thinking about it.

Hope everyone else has a good day.

Ready - tbc CD2 LP12 (8th cycle)
iwillbe - tbc CD6 LP? (10th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.54 CD13 LP12 (13th cycle)
Rahrah - tbc CD16 LP13(5th cycle)
Mum03 - tbc CD23 12dpo LP14(4th cycle)
Gracie14 - tbc CD24 7dpo? LP? (7th cycle)
MrsMc - tbc CD34 4dpo? Anov? LP 10-12 (1st cycle after MC, 9th cycle)

Morning all - got to run - back later

Ready - tbc CD2 LP12 (8th cycle)
iwillbe - tbc CD6 LP? (10th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.54 CD13 LP12 (13th cycle)
Rahrah - tbc CD16 LP13(5th cycle)
Mum03 - tbc CD23 13dpo LP14(4th cycle)
Gracie14 - tbc CD24 8dpo? LP? (7th cycle)
MrsMc - tbc CD34 5dpo? Anov? LP 10-12 (1st cycle after MC, 9th cycle)

Just updating dpo's

Rah - are you shag sessions due soon?

Ready - tbc CD2 LP12 (8th cycle)
iwillbe - tbc CD6 LP? (10th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.54 CD13 LP12 (13th cycle)
Rahrah - tbc CD16 LP13(5th cycle)
Mum03 - tbc CD23 13dpo LP14(4th cycle)
Gracie14 - tbc CD24 8dpo? LP? (7th cycle)
MrsMc - tbc CD34 5dpo? Anov? LP 10-12 (1st cycle after MC, 9th cycle)

Dinner sounds nice 03...UMMMMM
We have the outlaws round for dinner tonight!

OK here is the problem... I am on day 16, thought I would of ovulated by now as had CM, mostly watery. Anyway no OPK + or Temp Hike yet, so definitely not happened. Except ferning is apparent...This TTC lark is very confusing.. It went perfectly last month, except for obviously conception...but thought it could be my body getting back into sink. Husband is away tomorrow night and he saying no to sex as feels under pressure, so did it once on Thursday and once Sunday and he says he is refusing to do it tonight when I moaned about him inviting his dad as it would interfere with BD. I'm getting so frustrated!

Whoops..

Ready - tbc CD2 LP12 (8th cycle)
iwillbe - tbc CD6 LP? (10th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.54 CD13 LP12 (13th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.2 CD16 LP13(5th cycle)
Mum03 - tbc CD23 13dpo LP14(4th cycle)
Gracie14 - tbc CD24 8dpo? LP? (7th cycle)
MrsMc - tbc CD34 5dpo? Anov? LP 10-12 (1st cycle after MC, 9th cycle)

Ready - 36.30 CD2 LP12 (8th cycle)
iwillbe - tbc CD6 LP? (10th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.54 CD13 LP12 (13th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.2 CD16 LP13(5th cycle)
Mum03 - tbc CD23 13dpo LP14(4th cycle)
Gracie14 - tbc CD24 8dpo? LP? (7th cycle)
MrsMc - tbc CD34 5dpo? Anov? LP 10-12 (1st cycle after MC, 9th cycle)

Thanks everyone for all your support over the last few days!! Just what I needed

MrsMc - Yep, ever since Atilla said that about the hike, I have wondered about it I just can't see the science behind it happening without the hormones!

Fettle - I will try, as always, to keep positive And your story always spurs me on!

Rah - Thanks for letting me tag on Don't worry about slight variations month on month - that's natural, it's the overall pattern that needs to start making sense It's not easy half way through is it? There's nothing real to study

Gracie - I had noticed you were not far behind me! Fingers crossed you don't make it to cycle 8

Greedy - Of course you didn't make it harder for me!!

Yum - How's the PMA??

Seaside - Liking the look of your chart You got your "P" and your "+" so hope you are feeling a little more relaxed now?

Chocolate - I hope you are right, though, it was only 1 day longer in the end, and not the first time I've had a 13 day-er

Bit concerned about Minxi?? Did she say she was going away? Dying to know how she is getting on with the Clomid??

Big wave to all those I haven't mentioned

Yum03 Well done for updating dpo's - I want to say it was a deliberate mistake to make sure everyone was paying attention but actually I was just being ditzy and was on the fly!!

Ready for the chart support - I was relieved to get a peak today. Mind you here is a cautionary tale about those cheapie OPK's - I did one on Sat afternoon - faint second line - but not really+ then did another on Sunday afternoon and no second line at all so -ive then did one Monday at 6pm - second line there bit darker than Saturday but still not convincing. The did another just before bed at midnight and it was def + the srongest + I have had - so just shows how you almost have to test pretty much 2x a day - if I do one this afternoon I bet it will not be as + as last night - interesting (or not!! )

rah oh men - I know how you feel - what is up with that?? I have found that I really have to tiptoe around my DH around OV - we usually talk about everything but I have made a conscious effort this month to not tell him my CD and OPK results etc in fact I kind of lied and said that the crunch time is next weekend when really it is now and that I just want to BD every other day for at least 10 days and he seems to be OK so far - but it could all change tomorrow. The worst thing is you get so frustrated and it all feels so out of your control - not helpful for the eggs I am sure! Could you try and sneak up on him tomorrow morning or even middle of the night! I have tried that and it has about a 50% success rate The annoying thing is that if you either get angry or upset it totally blows any chance you might have had out the window as I think they really feel the pressure then?
When I saw that scene with Alma & Orson in Desp Housewives I caught myself thinking not such a bad idea??? Insane!
Rah - did you ask me about the CB monitor yesterday? If you did I do find it helpful as another piece of the jigsaw of TTC and I find it comforting to get + results but obv it still has not gotten me a BFP so dunno!

Must run again -will catch up with everyone else later

Ready - 36.30 CD2 LP12 (8th cycle)
iwillbe - tbc CD6 LP? (10th cycle)
seaside72 - 36.54 CD13 LP12 (13th cycle)
Rahrah - 36.2 CD16 LP13(5th cycle)
Mum03 - tbc CD23 13dpo LP14(4th cycle)
Gracie14 - tbc CD24 8dpo? LP? (7th cycle)
MrsMc ? 36.5 CD34/6dpo? Anov? LP 10-12 (1st cycle after MC, 9th cycle)

Gracie ? I know how you feel hon

Greedy ? sorry if I made it worse for you that cycle Greedy

Yum03 ? everything crossed hon! I can?t stand the taste of wine, even good stuff when pg! We?re having chicken in white wine tonight too! doesn?t count as booze in sauce does it?

Hello Seaside annoying about the OPKs! PMSL about the scene with Alma & Orson in Desp Housewives, I was sat there thinking ?as if it?ll happen just that once!?

Hello Rah sorry to hear that the boys? are on strike! I have had that too from DH. Can?t give any advice, mine is so stubborn, if he says no, he means it!

Of course we are here for you Ready I can?t find anything anywhere about a hike for other reasons just remembered, Minxi is going to Spain this week to her new place!

Please help girls, I am feeling so nausous, and huge sore boobies, and head-y. I have managed to start thinking that I am pg, and I am SO worried about how I will feel tomorrow if/when af arrives. I have built myself up for a mighty fall. Please help me climb down before it happens.

Yum03!! - just looked at your chart and hate to fuel your fire but it does look good?? Ov was really early wasnt it?- do you think that is accurate re CM etc. Is 14 days your longest LP? If so then I would say you should test on CD25/ Thursday at 15 dpo.

OK - So lets be rational & realistic - you can do nothing about the result now except do a test early and maybe get a BFN and still feel the same and there is no point doing a test unless it is FMU. Anything you do now is not going to change the result. If AF does arrive in the mean time there's no denying you will feel like poo.

That doesnt help at all and I will try not to get excited for you distraction is the name of the game I think. Play duchesses Bat the Rat here !!

LOL... you guys make me laugh...boys on strike!..hehe... desperate housewives!(But then again you have given me an idea!)

It is so frustrating when men are like that, they are so bloody stubborn! I have just done a OPK and have a medium positive line... not bold but very much there! So in one breath I am phew... was worried I had delayed ovulation again and then on the other hand I'm like...sodding husband is going to make me miss the 1 day of the sodding month being a basta*rd! I am tempted to go and source from somewhere else, but my husband is short and will get suspicious if the child was too tall! LOL

MUM03, maybe a test is in order, so you don't work yourself up anymore and put yourself out your misery.. ((Please don't shout at me, it's only one day early!))

Yum - Even I think you should test!!! Do it!! I need something to cheer me up!! And a BFP for one of my buddies would be just the ticket!!!!

Rah - Height can skip a generation, I think

Seaside - I bought 10 OPKs (cheapies) so will see how I get on with them... If I ovulate on CD19 again this month, I will NEVER use them again

MrsMc - Thank you for reminding me about Minxi!! I know what you mean about Alma and Orson... I was tutting at the tv saying, oh yeah, because it is just the flaming easy! Argh.

Ok... I have to tell you all something... and it's kind of - but last night, I got myself all upset, couldn't sleep - so I sat and wrote a letter to "the baby I have yet to conceive" - and blubbed a plenty. Is it really odd? Do you think I have cracked up? What should I do with it?

I don't think thats odd.. I have been told to write.. as it is a good way to get feelings out. I have a book where I write to Bertie when I feel down and want to speak to him. I have also been told to write down all the events that happened at the hospital as it allows some of the feelings out.
In time I might not need that book anymore and I will either throw it away (as too painful)or keep it with all of Bertie's stuff... But it is a good way to cope with everything...It has been recommended several times, so much be a common 'therapy' technique for loss, grief, upset etc...

Thanks Rah - I did feel some sort of relief last night after writing it, and was able to sleep afterwards. I think I will keep it, just in case I need to look at it again, in another 7 cycles!!

I have been listening to a DVD at night when I go to sleep (it was given to me at the fertility clinic) and that discusses embracing my unborn child, identifying with it etc etc.... So I would not say it is unhealthy to write to your yet conceived child, as I think it helps you brain to identify that you can conceive...The material I have is obviously approved by doctors, so I would not worry... perfectly normal!

Big Hug Just in case you needed one Rah

Sending hugs too (and taking a few for myself!) I think writing can be very therapeutic, I felt much better after I?d written Ava?s poem.

Really bored and fed up this afternoon it?s lovely outside and I just want to be out there.

Also, I?ve been getting really down about money. Every month it is a total struggle to make ends meet and we wouldn?t manage if it weren?t for some creative thinking here and there. I?m just tired of it. I wish I could go shopping or go on holiday but I can?t DH and I had a big discussion about it last night. Our house has now been on the market since October with no real interest and it is so depressing. It is a lovely house and I hate to leave it but that is the vital step in our plan to move to Spain. We really thought it would be sold by now and we?d be paying off lots of debt each month and saving to move over there but at this rate, we?re going to have to delay the move because we need more time of earning what we do here to pay off debt I know we are very lucky in many, many ways but some days, I can?t see the wood for the trees and it feels like we never get lucky Sorry, moan over.

Look at it long term... being a solicitor you are bound to earn lots of money

I know mine does!

My friends are having exactly the same issue with their house and had to move in with their mum and dad and rent their house out to cover the mortgage. They had two children one after the other and she had to give up work, hence struggling on one wage with a massive mortgage. It is no fun at all!

I'm signing off for the night, as the outlaws are coming for dinner and have a roast to cook and the house to clean and a husband to attempt to seduce! Yer right!

Have a good one Rah

Group hug!!

Oh MrsMc - I am so sorry that your house is still on the market, and you are worrying about money. I know the Scottish system is different, but is it possible to switch Agents? How many viewings have you had? Don't let the Agent rest on their laurels, they should be doing lots to get more people through the door! Have you been given any feedback? When we sold our last house, a few people had commented about 2 of the bedrooms not being shown as bedrooms (we had one as a study, and one as my craft room, and relaxing space with futon for extra guests) - it was a pain that people couldn't see the space for what it was, especially as there were 2 double rooms as bedrooms anyway - But we bought a cheap bed, and turned it into a traditional bedroom, and had 2 offers within a month! So sometimes it's just that people can't see the wood for the trees unless you make it glaringly obvious. I remember laughing with DH saying, the room isn't any bigger, but suddenly people can see how it works. Honestly, some people have NO VISION!
Just realised I am waffling on, probably not much help either - Get your agent earning their money!

Have fun with your outlaws (can I borrow that phrase - perfect for my MIL!) Rah - have a great night!!

LOL and big hugs for all of us - I have a picture in my head of Ready writing, rah listening to her DVD and me - standing in my bedroom facing the west (?) holding a candle and saying my spell/mantra about allowing my unborn child to enter my life

I say whatever makes you feel better is good. I have always been a massive fan of writing letters that may never be sent - I think it is good to release those feelings and somehow by putting them down on paper it makes them real and allows you to respond to them or deal with them IYSWIM.

MrsMc - I totally empathise - just this afternoon I have had my monthly money meltdown - we live a lovely life but every month we just scrape through and then some annoying zonking bill lands on the mat like car insurance etc which I had sort of (not really) forgotten about and I have to get creative too. My DH and I are v different - he is an optimist and I am a realist so I worry and he just tells me it will be alright and one day we will be able to shop at M&S for food all the time!! (to me thats the measure of no money worries IYKWIM?) You just have to believe it will get better. For us we have scarificed financial security for quality of life and hopefully by 2008 it will be even better - fingers crossed for us both

I had completely forgotten about your spell Seaside - That has to work this month!! You talking of that makes me think of Lottie - I wonder how she is doing? It is weird without her here. I hope she is having a balst

or a blast