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Thread 30, TTC #1 | Hilda hopefuls are still riding the shag wagon

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Jamon · 06/06/2017 08:39

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has well and truly worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

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Kathrino · 03/07/2017 14:46

Great news pyjamas! So glad it all seems to be going so well for you and your top quality embryos!

Mouse, I'm impressed at your efforts even if you didn't manage CD13 and I'm keeping everything crossed that it will be enough for you. I'm sure you've done enough!

I'm glad the scan went well Jam, how are you feeling on the clomid this month?

MouseLove · 04/07/2017 08:17

That's awesome news pyjamas keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you!!!

Jam likewise for you too, LSFX!!!!

Otters I am sending you positive vibes this morning, good luck!!

We managed another go last night when I got home from work before we headed to the gym. I am so thankful that despite my flabby body, my DH still finds me nice to look at naked. 😂😇 I think I ovulated yesterday though so that was just to make the others swim faster. 😂

Jamon · 04/07/2017 08:31

Morning girls Brew

Scan has left me a bit frustrated now. She said HS days 11, 13 and 15. We can only HS on days 10, 14, 15 as DH is away at work.

Do you think that's okay? I feel like we're missing key days. I've got lots of EWCM today too Sad

Fx for you otters

Kath I'm really weepy, still cry most days and I get really irrational thoughts (keep working the neighbours upstairs will hurt our cat as we complained to their landlord about the noise they make Hmm) BUT on the whole better than last month. I don't think I'll be taking it again though.

Excellent effort mouse fx for you

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Flashinthepan · 04/07/2017 09:19

Jam I think it will be fine. For example, if you HS at 11 pm on day 10, that's only a 7 hour difference then if you HS at 6 am on day 11.

I think it just spreads it out by telling you every other day as some people wouldnt do it 2 days in a row.

Also this is gross, but if your DH often works away during key fertile times, have you considered the home turkey baster route and storing his contribution in the fridge (don't even know if that would work by the way!)

Chlo22 · 04/07/2017 09:48

Hi ladies,
Just wanted to pop back and say great news pyjamas, sounds like it's all going really well, and happening quickly too which is what you want! Fingers crossed it all continues to go well. It sounds like you've found the experience to be very positive?

I've been lurking and have seen a few people post about the Izzy Judd book. Has anyone read yet? It looks like a really good read so might have to purchase.

We went to see a urologist after DH's high sperm DNA fragmentation and it turns out he has a varicocele which is basically a varicose vein on the testicle. It's not harmful in terms of your health but it does affect fertility as makes the testicles too hot which then damages the sperm so we go back next week to see if he has a minor op or injections. Feel relieved we're finally getting somewhere though. The consultant we saw said we shouldn't need to have ICSi or IMSI if we can treat this and carry on with healthy eating/not drinking too much etc and said it's good that we're now explained rather than unexplained as we can do something about it, so feeling quite positive again.

And I got DH to finally agree to getting a dog so we're picking up a little Frenchie this weekend :)

Pyjamas81 · 04/07/2017 10:19

Good luck today otters!

I also think it'll be fine jam 👍🏼 sounds like you're having a really tough time with the Clomid though - although thankfully doesn't seem to be as bad as last time.

Chlo great to see it's something treatable! I mean obviously it's crap there's an issue in the first place, but much better to know what a solution is.

You're right - I've had a really positive experience so far. Regardless of the outcome, at least I've learned that IVF doesn't have to be a terrible experience. I was lucky to have no side effects at all from drugs, egg collection was a breeze, it's all happened really quickly and no mood swings. I do know that it affects people in wildly different ways so I know other people's experience is vastly different. I definitely wouldn't want to say it's easy, it's not. But for me, it hasn't been too bad. The mental anguish (esp waiting for those damn calls) far outweighs any physical effects for me!

Kathrino · 04/07/2017 12:15

It's really good to hear that you've had such a good experience pyjamas. The consultant we saw a few months ago said that IVF wasn't as scary or invasive as people generally made out but it's much more powerful when someone who is actually going through it says something similar. I'm still keeping everything crossed for you guys!

I agree with the others Jam, I think you'll have it covered this month for sure. Presumably she's expecting you to ovulate on CD 15 in which case they'll be lots of swimmers in situ. I'm sorry that your clomid experience has been so difficult; at least you know that you've tried it and done absolutely everything you can.

Chlo, I'm glad they've managed to find out what the issue was and it's something that can be resolved. Exciting news about the dog too!

Pyjamas81 · 04/07/2017 12:47

That's exactly what our therapist said kath - I was so wound up about being about to embark on what I was convinced was going to be a horribly physically gruelling process and she said, "it doesn't have to be horrible you know". It really changed my mindset!

Flashinthepan · 04/07/2017 15:16

I'm just posting my chart in case anyone spots anything that looks weird or unusual. Seems I only have a 10 day LP. Not sure if that is going to be a problem or not. Alexia if you're ever here lurking please cast an eye over it!

otters hope you're ok.

chlo sorry to hear there's a problem that needs fixing but great news that it sounds as though once it's fixed you and DH have a great chance of success.

Thread 30, TTC #1 | Hilda hopefuls are still riding the shag wagon
Jamon · 04/07/2017 16:47

Flash wouldn't it die in the fridge? His job does make things extra difficult

Chlo I've wondered about varicocele because of an episode years ago when DH got a very small lump checked. They said it was a blood vessel. We've got an appointment at the hospital on Thursday as I wanted to discuss it and get him checked

Pyjamas it's really helped me seeing how well you've coped with it. I agree that emotionally it's harder and it's that side I'm worried about

Thanks kath and others I really hope we are covered okay

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Chlo22 · 04/07/2017 17:15

pyjamas I totally agree, it definitely makes it a lot less scary to hear a 'normal' person's experience of the whole process. Even though I know lots of people who have been through it, it does still seem quite scary and like it's a massive deal but you've coped amazingly with it.

jamon I'd never heard of it until we had our follow up with our consultant. He had an actual examination with the urologist and then had to have an MRI to confirm and apparently it's medium sized but I'd never even noticed it before. He does get very hot down there though which is a symptom of it.

Not sure if this will be of interest but might be relevant to others... I wasn't sure what the DNA fragmentation thing actually meant but the dr explained that there is a fatty/greasy layer that protects the head of the sperm, which houses the DNA. If that layer isn't strong or it gets damaged, then that's what causes the DNA to fragment and subsequently means it takes longer to get pregnant and also higher risk of miscarriage because when the sperm does fertilise the egg, it's not solid and it's a bit fuzzy/fragmented so doesn't stick as such.

As well as the varicocele problem which causes the area to overheat and damages that protective layer, it's also down to lifestyle as too much fat in the diet can be a problem and obviously the usual suspects - alcohol/smoking/stress etc. They can all affect the PH levels and cause too much acid/an imbalance in the semen which can break down that protective layer.

For us, I'd been banging on about all of this to DH for ages but it wasn't until he was actually sat in front of a dr that he's fully taken it on board and really kicked his arse into gear but I guess at least we're on the right road now.

I asked the urologist why the test isn't available on the NHS and he was pretty sceptical and said that most of the directors on the NHS are tied in with the fertility clinics so it's not in their best interests to offer these tests, they want people to go straight to IVF. Not sure how true that is but for us, we were fully prepared to go straight for IVF and it's doubtful that would've worked.

I am still slightly sceptical as the urologist has said that diet/lifestyle definitely plays a part and combined with the varicocele, once that's treated, we should be able to conceive naturally whereas the consultant at the Lister has said no, it's irrelevant, you'll still need to have IMSI so not too sure. Guess we'll just wait and see what the result actually comes out at in a month or so after treatment and after DH has continued on his health kick.

Jamon · 04/07/2017 19:30

I don't understand why the NHS don't look at male fertility in more detail. Surely it's better all round to resolve that if they can, than pay for and our couples through IVF 😠

Just had a lovely drink and chat with a volunteer from the uk fertility network. It was incredibly helpful talking in person to someone who really understands

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otters2017 · 04/07/2017 19:46

Hi everyone

Sorry been a bit quiet as I was quite overwhelmed today and wasn't sure if I should post anything yet but I got my BFP this morning!!! It's a faint line on FRER but it's definitely there. It was such a surprise and I cried and cried and cried. I still can't quite believe it. It's still an uncertain rocky road ahead but at least we cleared the first hurdle. I have so many questions and worries in my mind but for now I'm just going to enjoy the moment.
Thanks for all the positive vibes flash and mouse and jamon it clearly worked and I hope we get a run of bfps here!

jam I think you've got it covered. Sperm lives for 5 days. LSFX for you!

pjs good luck for the transfer tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly

chlo it's good that they found out what's wrong although the conflicting advice isn't helpful. Really hope the urologist is right and this can be fixed and you can conceive naturally.

Thread 30, TTC #1 | Hilda hopefuls are still riding the shag wagon
KerryLeanne84 · 04/07/2017 20:12

Congratulations Otters! Great news!

Pyjamas81 · 04/07/2017 20:13

Omg otters!!! Congratulations!!

Mrsbluebell17 · 04/07/2017 20:26

Congrats otters. Fab news.

Fingers crossed for you pyjamas!

Jamon · 04/07/2017 21:19

Fantastic news otters congratulations!! Isn't that cycle 18 or 19? That is amazing - wishing you a very safe and happy 9 months ahead

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Jamon · 04/07/2017 21:25

Assume this is referring to clomid

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MouseLove · 04/07/2017 22:17

Omg!!!! I'm so happy for you otters and I can completely understand you waiting to tell us all. Hugs and congratulations!!! X

otters2017 · 04/07/2017 22:18

Thanks all. We went out for a quiet celebratory meal with the mantra of "today we're pregnant. Tomorrow is another day" I'm still in shock and disbelief and wonder if I've imagined it. I have to order more FRER so will test again on thurs.

jam this was cycle 18 or possibly 19 - I've actually lost count now! It's been such a long and stressful journey and I hope it gives some you hope that it is possible. I certainly never imagined I'd get to this point especially with recent events.

I'm still going to stick around if that's ok. I don't feel brave enough to join any other threads

Kathrino · 04/07/2017 22:22

Congratulations otters, what a rollercoaster but I'm so pleased for you!

harrietm87 · 04/07/2017 22:38

Yay otters congratulations!!! What lovely news! Especially after so long. Hope your pregnancy is boring and easy!

I'm 12dpo and bfn. My symptoms have subsided a lot so I think they were probably down to coming off the meds, though that doesn't explain the weird cramping I'm still having. Pissed off now and just want AF to come.

I'm pretty gutted really. I know it's awful to have hoped but I've conceived the last 3 times I've tried and I so wanted this one to work out as it's our last chance until at least October (DH working away in Zika virus places). October is when my first due date of this year is (second is November) and I really thought I'd be pregnant by then. Obviously not. I might take a little break from this thread as I won't be able to actively try for a while and might be best not to think about it every hour of every day like I've been doing recently.

pyjamas best of luck for tomorrow. I'll be thinking of you.

@ me in with news of any bfps!

LoveRainbow02 · 05/07/2017 06:23

Congratulations otters. Wonderful news 😊

QuietTime · 05/07/2017 06:38

Sorry have been MIA, but have been checking in - just wanted to say a massive congrats, otters, lovely news! xx

On cycle 7 now, though OH away for this one

chlo fx for your DH's treatment, despite conflicting advice

Harriet hope you're not out, but take care if you do step away CX

PJs been amazing following your journey - everything crossed for you!

Pyjamas81 · 05/07/2017 06:52

Thanks for the luck everyone and I'm so glad my posts have been useful!

Embryo transfer is at 11am today - collective positive vibes please ha ha. Fx one or two actually did make it to blastocyst stage since Monday! Have got acupuncture booked in for before and after transfer today - may not do a damn thing, but if nothing else, it relaxes me which has to be a good thing. DH coming to the transfer as well to hold my hand - and I figured it might help it all seem a bit more real to him as his role has been more limited!

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