Thread 30, TTC #1 | Hilda hopefuls are still riding the shag wagon

[Jamon]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.


We've been going a while now so the novelty has well and truly worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!


Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...


Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

Good luck today pyjamas, hope all goes ok. From what I've heard, the transfer bit is easy so hope you find that. Good idea to book something to take your mind off of things and keep yourself busy.

otters massive congrats. Hope all goes ok for you :)

Here's to some more bfp's all round x

Hi MNers
Having received very reassuring answers to previous "silly" questions I wondered if I could get your opinions on the following
When exactly should I record CD1 on clue app?
Background. I (more often than not) have a couple of days very light bleeding (less than a tampons worth all day). Clue app information says users often mis record this as spotting which only occurs "outside the cycle" but to record this as "light" bleeding is "one pad or tampon in 3 hours". It says one one hand light bleeding occurs at beginning and end of cycle then in another paragraph that day one us usually the most heavy.
I haven't used any other apps but have used a period predictor website and when I put the date of my last period in for example 3rd of the month it turns the 3rd dark green and the 1st and 2nd light green as a "pre-bleed" which seems to match my cycle exactly.

I realise 2 days really does not matter but its messing with my ovulation tests in that I was convinced I had a short phase between ovulation and period and on another occasion I imagine I must have only recorded what i would call my "proper" bleed I never detected an ovulation. Did I not ovulate or did i start testing too late??

Frustrating!!

Thinking of you pyjamas, hope all goes well today!

Harriet so sorry you think you're out. I'm very fixated on October too as we start IVF then - I realised the other day it's only 3 eggs away, which made it seem much closer. Completely understand you taking a break. Please come back when you're ready. And I hope AF stays away in the meantime!

Good luck good luck pyjamas ! The lovely lady I met from the Fertility Network said transfer was really straightforward too.

Stick around as long as you need otters how many cycles had you been on clomid? Were you guys unexplained?

Marshet I'm not sure but spotting shouldn't be counted as day one. Perhaps use OPK tests throughout a cycle ?

If it's pink and watery and barely there that's spotting. I usually don't leave anything on a panty liner when I spot, just when I wipe. Of course everyone will be different. When it's actual blood and leaving stuff behind is when I record CD1. But again, everyone is different.

TMI alert
So, I'm currently scratching my head. I woke this morning to lots of dark yellow/brownish/maybe pinky thick CM. I don't know if it's old man glue or I'm starting my period super early but I think I have tummy ache. FML. Today is CD16. And I say "I think I have a tummy ache", I don't know if I'm worked up worrying or if it's something else. I suppose only today will tell. 🤔🙄😒

Pyjamas massive massive good luck today. Sending you allllll my good vibes today.

That could be a post ovulation thing mouse?

otters congratulations! So thrilled for you.

harriet sorry it's still bfn. Will be thinking of you if you are quiet here for a while.

pyjamas wishing you all the luck in the world for today. May the Thread be with you!

Marshett, I get a lot of spotting pre-AF although am by no means an expert. I tend to differeniate based on colour and consistency. Sorry for the grossness but spotting for me is usually brown and thick, dark or brightish red but mixed with some type of CM, so not actually a 'flow' of blood, or is just a slight brownish staining. Light bleeding for me is normally the same type of blood as my regular period, so dark or bright red, but the same consistency as if you had a nosebleed for example, rather than mixed with anything else. You don't say how long AF lasts for you, but if you have 2 days of light bleeding and one day of heavy, I would say your period starts on the first day of light bleeding, if you have two days of light bleeding, then 4/5 days of other bleeding, I would call it spotting. If you use less than a tampon per day, but during your heavy bleeding you use much more I would also call this spotting.

Do you know when you ovulated *Mouse8? Or have you yet? If you haven't or only just have the pinkish CM could be a sign of ovulation.

sorry x-post Jam.

Entirely possible and probably more of a rational thinking than I had jam 😂 unneeded swimmers... be gone!!

I think I've learnt that my body just has absolutely no clue what it's doing. It wouldn't surprise me either way. 🤔

pajamas sounds so exciting - very best of luck!!

Should obviously say pyjamas !

Congratulations Otters - so lovely when it happens for someone that has been trying for so long. Hope you have a really happy and healthy 9 months.

Good Luck PJs - sending lots of good luck vibes your way!

I'm lurking a bit, had a really rough weekend on the TTC stakes, met my friend for the day on Saturday, she's been trying for 4 years and has had 2 miscarriages in that time and as you might expect a lot of the conversation was focused around infertility. Then the in-laws hosted breakfast for the extended family on the Sunday with so many children and babies - just kept running off to cry! Feeling a lot more stable now and entering FW but it just all seems a bit pointless when I know there is a sperm issue. And today is our 3rd wedding anniversary - really thought we'd have a baby by this point - how stupid and entitled is that?

Sigh

Sorry you've had a rough time flora but congratulations on your anniversary. I don't think it's stupid or entitled to think that two healthy people will be able to have a baby together. I never thought I would be here, feeling like it's no longer being paranoid to think I might never have a child, getting depressed because some of my friends are now planning to try for their second and I haven't even had one!

I feel totally stuck right now, our whole life was built towards starting a family and I just feel like I'm going nowhere. I just want to take a 6 month break from my life.

So all done - that was fucking weird! They put one early blastocyst back in as it was the front runner out of the 5. Three definitely slowed and one may or may not catch up but they didn't think there would be any to freeze (which is normal with the amount of embryos we had).

Bit bummed that a full blasto wasn't transferred and we have no second chances with any frosties, but trying to be positive. They've given me a picture of the little early blastocyst! Test date is Friday 14th 😬

Oh pyjamas I've got everything crossed so much I'd fall over if I tried to stand up! This must be the strangest 2ww ever for you!

So exciting Pjs! Good luck! :)

@otters2017 -- congratulations!! This news made my day! Keep up that PMA and take it easy if you can :)

@Pyjamas -- keeping everything crossed for your little blastocyst

Hi Ladies,

Been lurking but not posting.

Jam, thank you for still including me on the list.

Otters, congratulations, hope all goes very well for you. Stay with us to keep us updated we need the positive vibes!

Pyjama's, can't believe how quickly everything has gone for you, all sounds very exciting , wishing you lots of luck!

Hello to everyone else hope you all doing well.

Hey ladies,

I'm still quietly following. Cd3 for me today. Also started investigations with long cycles. Had an ultrasound and all looks ok 🤞
Congratulations Otters amazing news and definitely gives us all hope.
Keep checking on latest updates from you Pyjamas
Wish you all the luck in the world!
Hope all is well with everyone else.
I've just bought the Izzy Judd's book for a summer read... 📚

Hey guys, have been MIA as I've needed some time out to get my head together. Baby bombs here there and everywhere, our year milestone passing and the most ridiculous longest cycle yet all made me bum out and had to do some self preservation. Feeling a bit better last couple of days as have had a couple of glasses of wine this week, and have first fertility appointment booked in a couple of weeks. So hoping things are moving forwards

I'm really sorry I've missed so much, have been trying to read back and catch up. Mainly wanted to say huge congratulations to Kerry and otters- what wonderful news! 🎉 And also congratulations on your marriage skipper 👰🏻Have a great honeymoon!

Hope you're doing ok pyjamas after the transfer🤞And lots of strength to those having a crappy time of it- thinking of you all ❤️

Morning everyone. False alarm yesterday. Think it was probably my body getting rid of everything in the most delightful way. 🤢

Still have a bit of a very very slightly tummy ache, but that could be anything. I've probably poked something with all the romping we've been up to. 😇

Decided I probably won't test until the weekend AFTER my AF is due (due 17th) just to make absolutely sure.

Happy Thursday everyone. X

Flora hugs 💐 sorry you're having a tough time. That sounds like an intense weekend and I find things like that can take a toll on your mood for a few days. It's not stupid or entitled to think you should have a baby by now. I often think this too. Also FW is absolutely worth giving your all - people conceive who have MFI and yours is only mild. We are going for it again this week and this cycle I feel hope again for us that it could happen. It could !

Flash a big hug for you too, we all have those days 💐 I hope you're alright. Have you started on the Agnes Castus yet?

So I believe you are now PUPO pyjamas?! It must be amazing thinking there is a little fertilised one in there. I hope so much it's getting comfy 🤞🏼

Hello hopeful hope you're doing well
Good news on your scan tommy

Good to see you binky sometimes you just need that time out - and wine! Glad you're feeling a bit better. Having an appointment booked in definitely helps.

We have an appointment today to discuss possible varicocele but I cannot get out of work so DH is going to have to go without me. The hospital policy is strictly you both go - but I think it's more wasteful to cancel late and better to lie and say I'm poorly. Also I'm not actually needed ! It's only to look at his balls.

In other news he's back from his trip and we had a GOS last night just as my OPKs starting to look darker. It will be positive today. Will talk him into it again tonight. He was complaining about the heat last night 🙄

Hope the appointment goes well today jamon. I totally agree with not cancelling, sometimes you just have to tell a little fib! I don't know if I can go with DH on Monday as we're getting the dog on Sunday so can't really leave him for hours but I've said he has to make sure he writes everything down as he has a tendency to say yeah it was fine and I'll be like what does fine mean, what did they say?? Men eh lol.

Welcome back binky. Sometimes you do definitely need a bit of time out to live in the real world and forget about TTC every minute of every day but the break does you good I think and then you can come back and get the support on here when you need/give support back.

I think I'm going to download that book today tommys as heard good things.

Totally agree with you flash and flora about feeling like your life is stuck. That was a massive thing we discussed with the counsellor and she said being in limbo is the worst place to be so try to keep things moving forward in whatever way you can. But it's bloody hard, you do build your whole life around starting a family and when it doesn't happen and happens to everyone else around you, it is absolutely s**t. I'm trying to accept it and trying to keep 'living' as much as possible as don't want these years of my life to be a waste but doing something about it as can't pretend that I'm ok about it and just plod along.

Nice to see you hopeful and tommy.

Good luck with your appointment Binky. Let us know how it goes if you want to.

Mouse glad to hear normal service has been resumed! Good luck holding out to test. Last cycle is the first time I haven't struggled not to test and I felt I'd turned a corner!

Thanks jam. I'm feeling a bit better today, I think the mental strain of it just really hit me with all the things I feel I can't say to DH or anyone in RL. I really do have a happy life, but I can't pretend that not having a baby isn't a massive gap, that I can't look forward to having a baby, I can't think of names, or nurseries because I'm acutely aware I might not get them, but I can't look forward to a life without a baby because I know there are still options, and I desperately want a baby, I'm not ready to think beyond it. Agnus Castus is still winging it's way to me in the post. Hoping it arrives this week, but latest it should be here Monday. I feel quite hopeful it will help.

Really hope your DH's appointment goes well Jam. And yours for Monday Chlo.

Very exciting about the dog chlo. What type is it? Trying to keep living and not let anyone know that's what you're doing is so exhausting. I keep hoping that when I finally do get my baby, one way or the other, that I will barely remember the pain of all of this.

Absolute cruelty from clinic just now - they called saying they wanted to update me on rest of embryos, then phone cut out, then there's me thinking it must be good because they called (they said they would only call with good news but to assume they wouldn't call), then they called back saying none reached blastocyst stage so they're not freezing any 🙁. So this one is our one chance on this go. I know I shouldn't worry as it's out of my hands, but so hard not to when the one on board was just at early blasto stage by day 5 rather than full blasto 😰. This is by far the worst bit out of the whole thing.