Thread 29 | The one with the BFPs (please)

[Londonjam]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

Welcome Unicorn, hope your TTC journey is swift.

We're all keen to know how it went today Jam, and surely one of us needs to have the fabled HCG boost? It's the law of averages!

Sk1pper I hope the airline can sort you out. It's your honeymoon isn't it? You'd think there must be something they can do in those circumstances. How long until you travel?

Hep I have crumbled and done OPKs this month for the first time in ages. Unfortunately it's not helped as despite thinking I was very close to a positive on Sunday (which would mean a 31/32 cycle which is pretty normal for me) they have now just got lighter, without any sign of a proper strong positive. I usually get two dark lines for a good 24 hours so would be very odd to have missed it, so I suspect this cycle is out. Bloody annoying as we had great shagging!

Doh, I meant HSG, obviously. Freudian slip

Really glad it went well Jam. I guess re TTC this cycle it's all down to how you feel. We were told to go for it but I can understand other consultants being cautious - purely because it's an unknown, and medics will always err on the side of caution in these scenarios.

I can't help think though, that given how often the procedure is performed, and how many people appear to fall pregnant soon after, if there was a negative impact we'd have read/heard about it.

So glad your HSG went well jam and you got the all clear! Fx you get the famous boost! Our consultant said HS was totally fine, so we went for it.

DH now texting me hearts and smiley faces - he's so bloody weird.

Jeezo this thread is moving quickly!

Glad the HSG went OK Jam and nice to hear that it wasn't too uncomfortable. You hear so many stories of ladies getting pregnant after a HSG so I'd just go for it and have a GOS if you feel up for it. Surely if the dye was toxic then they wouldn't have just squirted it up where they did! I know the feeling of rage around having to do all this stuff when some women just have sex once though.... I felt that about going to the bloody Docs so imagine I'll be raging when I get to the tests stage.

Basset - I'd be careful with the DIY sperm tests as think they only measure one thing - maybe count? So no checks on motility or morphology and you might freak yourselves out for no reason. We went to Docs after Cycle 10 and she was happy to refer us so I'd just go for that.

I am still feeling positive today. Decided to OPK and temp until ov is confirmed and thereafter I'm all about the relaxation. Last TWW I just couldn't stop crying - not doing that again.

Hope you enjoyed your wine Binky - I'm another that has cut back but not given up drinking - its just too long a process otherwise.

Sorry to hear that things are hard going PJs but you are doing the right thing with the therapy and as you said - it'll get worse before it gets better but will be worth it in the end. And don't force yourselves if you really don't feel like it.

Decided not to go for it last night - was exhausted, had to get up for at 4.45 for a flight this morning (I'm in France!) and also felt that I'd rather have a cycle properly off than one where'd I'd stress myself out with such a low chance of success. I think maybe my body needs it anyway - I noticed that after my first loss I only ovulated a couple of days late, but this time it's over a week so maybe I'm still a bit screwed up from it. Still a bit sad, but maybe it'll be nice to not have a 2ww. V glad I used OPKs though - if I hadn't and I'd just assumed I'd ovulated on my normal schedule then I'd be starting to test in a couple of days - that would have been a long wait for a big disappointment!

Glad it went well, jam.

PJs I guess he's trying... In both senses!

So glad it went well Jam and wasn't too painful! I agree with the others - they probably can't say for definite that it's totally safe because it would be unethical to test the impact on embryo development - but I'm sure there's absolutely no risk. If there was, they'd be really militant about it (and probably make you take BC etc) and clearly there are loads of docs who say it's absolutely fine.

Lisa, sounds like you needed a bit of a break from it all (totally understandably!). Hopefully your next cycle will get back to normal though.

Basset, I agree with others that I'd be wary of a DIY kit. I think you can get a private SA for about £100 or so if that's an option?

Pyjamas, sorry things are still tough but I guess one session was never going to be an overnight cure. It sounds like you're both moving forward though which can only be a good thing for your relationship.

Welcome Unicorns and Paige

How's the wrist Sk1pper?

Had my first therapy session this morning. Was pretty hard going but I think it will be good in the long term. We did talk about TTC a bit (although that wasn't the focus) and he said that I was very defensive when he asked about it. I think it's more boredom than anything (although obviously being a psychologist, he read a lot into my reaction...)

Glad to hear it went well Jam and the dye flowed freely! If I were you, I'd just HS if you feel up to it, don't want to miss a good chance. Having said that, I'm too shit-scared to have the test in case my sad lonely tube is blocked and I've been wasting my time!

Kathrino are you having therapy with DH or alone?

So I decided to take the progesterone tablets, 3 days in, and I'm having light brown discharge, despite taking 10 mg twice a day. Perhaps this is my new normal?

Weirdly, despite the extra progesterone, I don't have sore boobs this month, which I usually get as soon as I OV. Who knows what the hell is going on eh? On the plus side, DH said he'd rather keep having sex all month, despite the spotting, so that at least means I can HS 3 weeks out of 4, instead of 1 and a bit weeks out of 4!

Jam - ugh Jam I don't know. I wasn't told to not HS afterwards but I don't want to tell you it's fine if he's advised you otherwise. I found the rest of the dye came out later that evening in a huge blob, so I felt pretty comfortable HS the next day. Maybe Google can advise?

Kath - ah thanks for asking, it's okay...healing much faster than I'd thought so possibly was a bit melodramatic.

The airline got back to me this morning and they are going to do their best to seat us together. They said they have a complimentary honeymoon cake for us too....but as much as I love free cake, I'd rather have the adjacent seats. FML.

sk1pper, glad the airline are being helpful and fingers crossed they get it sorted so you don't have to worry (although you've now made me wonder if I would exchange sitting next to DH for cake...given the amount he's coughing/sneezing/spluttering because of hayfever at the moment, I probably would). Good news re the wrist too!

Flash, this is solo therapy as it's really related to other stuff. The legal side of said other stuff reached an unsatisfactory if not surprising conclusion a month or two ago so now I'm just trying to work out how to move forward from it all.

Wow, thread moving quickly as usual :)

Hi Paige, unicorn & rainbow!

Glad the HSG was OK, jam

PJs, you made me laugh at your DH's messages - hope things settle btw you guys, sorry HS is becoming a bit functional (though secretly impressed that it wasn't already...we definitely have the odd 'guess we should' sessions)

No AF yet, but tender boobs gone, so assuming some dip in hormones & AF on course

Rubbish about the seats, skipper and hope they get it sorted - but congrats on the cake! If I'm honest I was expecting a lot more honeymoon freebies than we got...

I know exactly what you mean about finding explaining your TTC situation boring, kathrino. Sometimes I want to talk, but a lot of the time it bores even me as I'm speaking. And I'm bored of getting the same responses 'it'll happen for you', 'you need to try not to think about it', 'statistically...'. Though I did get a new one the other day which I thought I'd share. On Sunday I was driving a friend home and he said that they had all thought I was pregnant the last couple of months because I'd not been drinking, but that obviously not as I did drink that weekend. I decided just to tell him the truth - he's a close friend - so told him about the losses. He listened and then thoughtfully said it must be like when he failed his driving test

Penguin love your law of averages theory. I think I'd have felt hopeful had their been a blockage. Goddamn clear pipes don't seem to have been hampering sperm 🙄🙄 do you think you might have had a positive OPK on Monday?

Perhaps your DH is taking on board learnings from therapy pyjamas?!

Flora I'm feeling your rage!! Was sitting there in my hospital gown circling 'primary infertility' on my referral form thinking wtf is this actually my life? I didn't think this would be me

Lisa enjoy your none TWW , next bus / egg will be along before you know it

Well done kath hmmm defensive? It's not the greatest thing to talk about though is it, plus you need to build up trust. Interesting though. I hope you feel better now the first one is done and that you think you can benefit from it going forwards. Also lol 😂 at swapping DH for cake!! Haha

Glad sex all month is a plus for you flash! We are usually relieved to finally reach the TWW 🙄😅

Skipper if you google it you get loads of women saying "had my HSG and finally got my BFP" and I really don't want to let me poor addled brain get its stupid hopes up. But the consensus seems to be try straight away?

Quiet hope you're wrong, it's horrible when you think you're just waiting to come on xx

Driving test !!!!! No words 😶

Hi ladies, hoping to join too...
Ttc #1
35 years
16 months ttc (although at first was laughably naive re timings, ovulation etc) - mmc at 11 weeks in Dec with surgical management twice (some was left behind)
Had 3 periods since the last surgery which have been getting lighter but more painful so bit worried now that got Asherman's! Bloody hell the worry never ends does it!? Docs appt tmrw to raise it.
Sorry for the essay! Awful that we all find ourselves here but a read of the thread (and prev one) shows its a really supportive place as all in the same boat. FX for bfps this month x

Not sure why my post showing as pink! New to forums

Also, someone was asking re semen tests. My boyfriend did a sperm test called swim count it apparently tests mobility and count - was £40 if I remember correctly. The results show as low, med or high depending the darker the blue colour... his result came up purple, quite dark but purple not blue! Emailed the company who said that meant was medium level of motility etc but I totally don't trust it now! So it's either buy another one and hope is blue or get proper test done (which I wanted to do in first place!)

Welcome Jeds and sorry to hear of your struggles. I hope all goes well for you tomorrow, or you get some action/answers at least.
Don't worry about the pink - everyone sees their own posts in that colour.

Lisa, driving test?? What the hell??!

Jam I did a couple of OPKs yesterday and they were almost there, but not positive. Line seems to have all but disappeared now. Ho hum. Maybe I'll keep testing once a day to see if I have a late surge/long cycle. Not sure I can be bothered though.

Kath sounds like you have more than TTC occupying head space right now. Hope the counselling is proving useful and you're making progress to moving on

Flash what CD are you?

thanks Penguin

Inspector I'm Cd 19, and 5 dpo I think.

Welcome Jeds sorry to hear about your MMC, FX the GP can shed some light on your cycles.

I cannot believe that Lisa. I'm surprised you didn't kick him out of the car!

To be honest Kathrino, I would probably be defensive, or at least dismissive, as I don't want someone to boil me or my thoughts/feelings whatever, down to fertility/babies etc. It's fine if it is what you need help with but can otherwise be something people fixate on, when it's not what you really need to work through.

Haha Jam. I say it now, but whether I actually do it is another matter .

Flash, that was totally it. I'm happy to discuss it to the extent it's relevant but it's not hugely so and don't want it to become so. I will definitely steer the conversation away from that in the future (to the extent I can!)

Thanks for the support all of you lovely ladies, I really appreciate it

Lisa, I can't believe the driving test comment!! What did you say in response?! I'm not sure I'd be able to articulate anything sensible...

Welcome Jeds, I'm very sorry for your losses. Good luck for your appointment tomorrow.

Quiet, keeping everything crossed that AF stays away!

Jam, the 'primary infertility' thing got me too when the GP put it on the paperwork for some of the initial blood tests. It seems so start written down.

Wow lisa I have no words. I'm raging!!! It's not just disappointing like a flipping driving test - it's a physical, mental and emotional ordeal. Argh.

Thanks for the welcomes
Jeez Lisa that is a pretty daft comparison! I wonder if he felt bad afterwards?

Lisa WTAF?! Keep typing aghast things and then deleting them as they seem too trite. There are no words.

Thanks jam and kath - feels so infuriating. Keep telling myself it'll be great to be able to drink at the various weddings coming up this summer, as solace. I may have to, if there are comments like the driving test one

lisa speechless...

Blimey lisa thats nuts!!!

This thread moved on so much today all i did today was an all day meeting so no chance of checking.

Im not sure about the sperm tests either but if he wants to do it I cant stop him. Whoever said about not telling anyone in person. I told my mum and sister we are on cycle 10 and I feel so much better for telling someone.