We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread ten!

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I hope I did ok with the title (thanks for the inspiration Emwithme). I felt a bit lost without a thread to post on so I thought I'd have a bash at it.

@hotcookie - you have all the standard bits and folic acid etc I take it? I am taking 75mg aspirin.

Did try Chinese herbs but omg totally gross. Made me yak.

I feel pretty sick today. It's too early so it's probably something I ate. 8days post iui today. Crossing everything for next week

Just catching up and sounds like it's been a tough few days for people. I had a moment when I saw someone's bump pic the other day and was really angry because it's just not fair and her due date is close to when mine would have been. But I also know she has loads of health problems and I don't know how long it took her to conceive, or what else she went through, which calmed me down a bit. I try to see it as part of the grief of miscarriage, like any other loss it is so unfair and we're going to feel angry and sad and jealous at times.

In other news, my dog has been seriously ill the last week. He seems to be getting better but it's been pretty hard for everyone. It's not something I'd recommend as a distraction but at least I haven't thought about ttc

Oh and @hotcookie I was wondering about agnus castus too, but I couldn't find anything online that made me feel less unsure, and like you I'm concerned about impact and side effects. It's really hard to know

Hotcookie Hometown I wanted to start Agnus Castus as I had a short luteal phase, which a B Complex lengthened, but I still have spotting pretty much from day of ovulation until start of AF, so that can't be normal. I've had a scan and they couldn't see anything wrong so I'm assuming it must be hormonal.

Heard good things about Angus or those with tricky cycles.

Oh so sad my boss just rang me to tell me about her fourth mmc. She has a boy ( after 3 mmc) and was trying again. I feel so very sad for all of us who have lost. It's so hard when you are out and about a sinal in london- where everyone just seems in bloom and up duffed. But we don't know their struggles either. Wahhhh.crying in Covent Garden bench. Must shop.

Nope I got AF in the end. Unicorn is right about OPKs - they just measure the surge of hormone which triggers ovulation but that doesn't tell you whether the ovulation was actually triggered or not. Sometimes it's not so you get the LH surge but don't release an egg.

Best thing to do is as many checks as possible but the most important one for confirming ovulation aside from a blood test (which you can't do at home) is basal body temperature. If you have an accurate heart rate monitor too, like a Fitbit, you can use this to confirm ovulation as resting heart rate will rise slightly after ovulation and fall with menstruation. I'm using the heart rate monitor on my phone every morning but it's not really accurate at all, I can see a bit of a pattern, but wearable tech is better.

Cross reference with OPKs, cervical mucous observation and cervical position if you feel comfortable with the last two (it gets easier to identify the more you do it, if you start off and think it's pointless.)

I've never looked at my cervix before any advice?

hometown I hope your dog is better soon :)
angliski I'm taking folic acid in my b-complex, and an additional tab also. I'm not taking any general multivits- as I have a pretty good diet, and don't feel that I am deficient in anything (Now the sun is out my vitamin D is prob ok, but will start supplementing that again if I get a BFP) I do supplement Magnesium & Coenzyme Q10, but that's a migraine thing rather than TTC.
CD12, watery CM, so I reckon will be jumping DH later (it sucks but this TTC lark has really made sex seem like a bit of a chore-it still feels SO good, but it's odd scheduling it!)
Feel pretty spaced and migrainey though, I think a storm is coming so hopefully that will clear my head along with the air

Sorry you are finding things so tough turquoise perhaps professional help will give you tools to cope?

anna I have found my af since the first mc last year was heavier and with each subsequent one even heavier and about 10 days. Just went to boots and bought a moon cup to try as I am going through so many tampons and towels today and yesterday a friend suggested it.

Thanks cookie. He's getting there, I hope.

Hi all I have been trying to stay away from the Internet.. I just needed a few days of no pregnancy thoughts... Mind u it didn't exactly work.. Part of me feels I need to take a step back and stop thinking about ttc so much but it is really hard to do. I'm also feeling really icky atm which isn't helping matters... I'm queasy and really tired but definitely not pregnant (af last week, according to ovia I'm now in fertile window and just to be absolutely sure I did a test yesterday as I was on day 3 of waking up with nausea..) which means it's probably just a bug or something that I've picked up from working with kids all day.
emvy since my last mmc I have tested early and tbh if I can give advice from personal experience.. I'd day don't do it... I'm trying not to myself.. The thing about testing early is that for me I do the test and then it's negative and I have to do another test and another because if I tested early it might have been too early and it might still turn positive... It's bizarre logic on my part and I am seriously going to try not to do it this month!
anne when do you go on holiday? I hope you both have a lovely time!!
Still trying to catch up on all the messages on here :-)

Hometown so sorry your dog isn't well, that must be incredibly difficult

Thank you smurf. I know what you mean about distancing yourself. I did the same. It also didn't help! I need a holiday I think but that's not going to happen. I feel like I need to escape it all too. How early would you class as early? My af was due from yesterday - tomorrow. I was going to test tomorrow morning at 15dpo. Is that late enough? I have no af symptoms as of yet so wouldn't really know how long to wait for it.

@hotcookie sounds like you are set then!

@stuckin I LOVE my mooncup 100% healthier cleaner, no toxic shock etc etc and lasts forever

@Stuckinstressville

Thank you, I'm thinking about counselling but my MMC was practically a year ago now

I'm not "over it it" but I think that's mainly because I'm not pregnant yet, despite TTC since last July- a long time ago.

Not sure how to fit counselling in, I work full time and we're trying to save money towards buying our own shoebox here in London.

I'm fine in my day to day life and work but then I have these moments of despair where I come on here and let it all out!

Hi emvy I have all my fingers crossed for you! I was the same had about a three day window when af could come and I ended up testing 2 days before as I didn't have any af signs and could have sworn I had pregnancy symptoms... I got a negative on a digital and even though I did hold out and af arrived a few days later than expected during that time in my head I was still thinking that it could have been a false negative... So it was almost like being disappointed all over again when af eventually did arrive..
With my first pregnancy and miscarriage I didn't test until I was a full week late!! And even doing the test then I can remember thinking there is no way this will be positive.. And tbh it wasn't a huge difficult to wait the week then we hadn't been really trying and we had just moved country. Right now I can barely deal with waiting to the expected day of af never mind a week later!
I agree a holiday would be lovely unfortunately for us it just isn't possible right now.. We might go away at Christmas although to stay with my husbands family so it doesn't quite count as a relaxing holiday to me..
turquoise I'm sorry you are having a hard time but I totally agree with you in the same way that on here I feel I can let out my feelings but with all friends and family I just play down what happened and everyone thinks that I'm coping really well with it and have moved on... Day to day if I'm busy it is grand .. Usually..

So, I cried on two forms of public transport today because, well... just because. Miscarriage sucks. It's stolen all my joy, from all things. It feels like it's easing, like my heart is mending, and then without warning everything breaks again. Sending so much love to all you ladies, it's so hard, even just to get through the day sometimes. ❤️

thinking of you dancing hope you have a nice relaxing weekend planned!

Sorry I've been so quiet, trying to stay away from mumsnet and get my head away from TTC a bit. I really struggled with getting af this month. I am really worried something is wrong post miscarriage as I've conceived first time on both previous pregnancies. I was sure we'd done everything right, positive ovulation tests etc, DTD every day in the week leading up to it and after for a few days. Anyway it all seems completely pointless, I may as well just DTD lots and hope for the best. Life's a bit shit right now.

Dancing here is a really big unmumsnetty hug. I know exactly how you feel

So sorry you had a tough day dancing and doublechocolate. It really does suck. I feel like I'm constantly taking 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

Well I wish I'd read your message last night smurf because I tested this morning. I could swear there was the shadow of line. Far lighter than 3 weeks post erpc bfp was! Which sucks. OH said, "Isn't that just where the line will show up?" Which shows that I'm not imagining it - and it definitely was the faintest pink, but it's so light it won't even show up on a negative for me to ask you guys as you'll just say I'm seeing things! Which I probably am. I'm going to buy a first response today and test Monday if I can (probably tomorrow). Anyway, I have a nice day planned with OH so I'm going to enjoy the day and try and not think about possible bloody pregnancy symptoms!

Ok I've crumbled because I'm sat doing nothing before getting ready to go out. Honestly, what do you reckon? With my last pregnancy, I tested negative after missing a period. Then a few weeks later, had a very strong positive. So i think that's what's getting my hopes up - I actually was pregnant last time and it was a bfn but had the stamina to wait ages to test again last time. Here it is, please be honest. I don't need false hope

Oh sorry didn't post the picture apparently?

Oh emvy im sorry your stuck in limbo.. I'm not the best person to ask about lines as with the test I did this month I was so sure there was a shadow of a line but couple days later I got a bfn on a clear blue digital and af arrived next day.
I so want to to be a bfp for you and think that there might be a very faint line there but I Really can't be sure, I'm sorry!
Could you wait a few days and try with a digital? I've decided I'm only going to use digital tests as I can't mis read them!

I am so confused. 2 days of low, 3 missed tests then 6 days of High on CBFM and no Peak yet. Miscarriage completed on 17 May. Boobs are sore now and I had EWCM two days ago.