We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread ten!

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I hope I did ok with the title (thanks for the inspiration Emwithme). I felt a bit lost without a thread to post on so I thought I'd have a bash at it.

Really sorry you're still in limbo water, it can be exhausting

I thought it was very odd... I thought he was just giving examples but I get letters sent to my gp and I get copies and it very clearly states to please use a frer or CB digi. I just can't afford/justify wasting tens of £s every 4 weeks doing that every day for the week before af due. Who knows how long we'll be trying.

Frer 5ish days before, maybe, then cheapies, and have some CBs hidden away to confirm in writing as and when. You pee on all of them, and they all seem much of a muchness to me.

Wishing you a massive bfp and if not that then an easy swift af so the shitty waiting is over x

I've still got the jitters. Also the heartburn and burps. Exhausted and can't settle.

emvy, I'm so sorry for your friend, it's awful x

Sorry to hear about your friend emvy.

I'm day 32 now. Cycles between 28 and 32 usually... I've always got a positive by the time AF due before. I've got classic AF cramps but I did last time I was pg too. No sore or bloated boobs which I think I had before. Likelihood is that I'm not pregnant, but I've conceived twice before at this time of year so can't help hoping there will be another Jan/Feb birthday to celebrate...

I remember when I was having really faint bfps with my first pregnancy last year DH insisted I take it to the doctor and ask her I felt soo stupid but she also said to get a clearblue one because she reckoned they were better DH of course loves to obey medical professionals to the letter and is sceptical of my know it all attitude pooh pooing this :o

I reckon they get marketed to just like the rest of us.

I've been trying to take my heart rate in the mornings but I only have my phone to track with. It's really high today, massive jump, but I don't think it's very accurate as I always get a bit excited to check it!

I think I might wait until Friday to test, that said, tomorrow is german father's day, so perhaps I will just do a little one.

Well my CBFM OPK test stick this morning gave a "Low" reading which was reassuring in a way since my IC preg tests are still positive but it appears not to have been confused by any stray hormones, it's looking for LH and oestrogen so fingers crossed it works as it should. My IC OPK only have a very faint LH line, which is normal for me throughout my cycle. My hair has started falling out more which makes sense as the preg hormones fade.

I've looked at dates and depending how long it takes my cycle to come back, I think I want to wait till next cycle in order to have a real AF first (in my head a fresh new womb lining... not sure if that's even relevant but it feels "cleaner" to me) and also I worked out that an end June / start of July conception date would mean that I wouldn't need to tell work before pay negotiations at year end, but an end May conception date I would. Also I have a work trip to Rome in mid June which would be nice to be able to relax and have some wine etc (my boss is coming too) rather than potentially doing a FRER every morning / freaking out over a new BFP. Having said that I'll probably change my mind again tomorrow. Cons of waiting are that baby will be a month younger on our summer holiday next year (4mos old instead of 5) and that I'll probably only get 5 months off instead of 6 as I really need to be back at work by September.

Sorry, I've been trying to keep busy. We've got some estate agents coming to give us an estimated value for our house this evening and I'm trying to make it look good! Pretty insurmountable task as there is tons to sort and I am absolutely exhausted today. I feel awful. I'm hoping it's a positive sign. I'm going to see if I can hold out till Monday to test which will be 12 dpo, but I may cave and test earlier!

I only have to get through today really, tomorrow I'll hopefully be busy visiting a friend who's just had a baby and then my DH will be off on Friday for the long weekend so I should be distracted!

Good luck with the house tiffin.

It sounds like waiting would make you feel better Grumpy, and that's all you can ever go with. Fun things to look forward to without ttc playing on your mind for a bit. Of course you can change your mind too, anytime you like! But go with your gut

I've had pre-af and pre-bfs cramps too water, why oh why are the symptoms so sodding similar? Talk about unfair.

I've been getting hopeful as my boobs haven't ballooned or started to hurt but woke up today and they're really sore. With the last two pregnancies I've had opposite symptoms - last time I had every symptom in the book, bloating, tiredness, massive boobs, nausea, aversions. The time before I just knew af wasn't going to arrive, normal boobs, bit of extra nose sensitivity but not much physical. So clear as bloody mud about what any of that means this month.

The cycle after last mc was exactly the same as the one before, very misleading!

I'm garbling... Sorry.

All sounds promising Anne - when are you going to test ?

AF has eased off so hoping its the last day. I am already dreading the OPK's every day for the next few weeks. I ovulated on CD 24 last month so dont want to miss it.
Not sure when to push the DR for more tests re the PCOS. I asked some questions on the PCOS forum and was shot down pretty quickly :-S Looks like its a long old process before any medication is given out!

Why were you shot down Amy? Good af is on the way out. What was the last contact with your GP on tests/next steps?

I don't know....

Would you go on cycle days or dpo? CD22 today, 12 dpo.

I asked how long the process took from first being diagnosed to actually received the clomid from GP and was responded with 'Your GP can't just prescribe it, i have waited 5 months even with a private consultant...blahh blahh' Think i am just being over sensitive. Have an appt booked in for next friday to get the ball rolling anyway.

ooo you are 12 dpo today? I would be tempted to do one tomorrow? (Who am i kidding, i would have done 5 by now if last month was anything to go by) Did you say you were off on holiday soon?

That was on a thread on here? Hmm, sorry you didn't get a more supportive response. There must be loads about TTC and PCOS out there if you're not finding much help on MN.

I don't know anything about it but I think you have to prove you're not ovulating to get it. Your GP is probably the best place to see what help you can get, specific to you and where you live. All my RMC stuff has been through the EPU and the clinic itself, not my GP at all, but GP should be able to advise you on tests and referrals. And if you don't feel supported you can always get a second opinion. Sorry you've got so much crap on your plate. No one grows up thinking it takes anymore than an unsafe shag to get a baby on the way!

I think I am, yep. I'be had bfns cd10 before and got bfps a couple of days later, so don't want to jump the gun.

We're off next Thursday morning, af due Wednesday.

Really don't know what to do.....

(POAS, obviously, but not sure when, and also not sure I want to know)

Well this is the thing, obviously i can ovulate as i have a 4 year old and i fell pregnant in November (after 2 years of trying) I am just really impatient and want to be pregnant again NOW! Ah well, i need to stop stressing and focus on getting fit and healthy and hopefully a baby will follow...

Hmmm i can see your predicament, how long are you away for? Maybe hold out until you are back, then you will know either way if AF shows up?

Your one cyst went away by itself didn't it. So what was the PCOS diagnosis based on?

Hope your GP can help advise. Is there a women's health specialist GP at your surgery?

We're away for a week and the slight panic about timings is if it is a bfp I have to start these injections straight away, so can't wait to find out, and need HCG bloods done two days apart. Shit timing really. Only good thing is if it's not happening we've got the holiday to focus on.

Hey everyone, this thread has moved fast the last couple of days! I've been avoiding MN a bit as AF got me, and I wasn't very happy about it. At least I know where I am now and this was more my normal length cycle, so I feel a bit more hopeful about this month again.

Trying to decide when to test sounds stressful anne. Have the RMC got any advice about what to do if you're away (or do they just expect you to put your life on hold?!)

amy good luck with the gp. I don't know, but I think it can take a little while to get a pcos diagnosis so good to get started now.

And good luck to everyone planning/wanting/hoping to test soon. Hoping for some more BFPs

Anne it sounds so tricky trying to work out testing around your holiday!

Amy, a couple of my friends have pcos and both cases present themselves very differently. One has been told she probably isn't ovulating as she rarely and sporadically has periods, she was offered clomid a couple of months ago, I think about a year after her referral. Another has regular periods and got pregnant first cycle of trying. It took a couple of months from seeing the gp with pain to getting pcos diagnosis through one scan. I obviously don't really know details though as it's not me! Hope it's quick for you.

Sorry af got you hometown. Glad you're now feeling more positive for your upcoming cycle.

Thanks for those that commented about my friend. It really knocked me for six but she's taking it amazingly and I felt much better by morning. I was just so angry that someone I cared so much about how to go through all this rubbish! It really sucks.

Glad she's holding up emvy, it's the fucking worst and she's so lucky to have you to lean on if she needs and you are able xxx

Sorry the witch got you hometown (love your username ), good your cycle is settling and you feel positive about the next window.

I'm honestly not sure why I'm stressing so much I feel pretty okay about everything but slightly manic about this cycle.

They've said to test asap and as soon as I get a bfp to stop aspirin, start fragmin, get a blood test that day and two days later. I need a letter if I want to travel with the drugs.

For my sanity I'd wait till af was due but after my last mc he said while it was probably chromosomal there was a chance it wasn't, hence the aspirin from ovulation, and really banged on about needing the injections as soon I possibly can.

Way to mess with a woman's mind doc. But he's trying to get us a baby so what can you do.

I don't have a diagnosed blood issue btw but he reckons the drugs help most people so that's the treatment plan.

Also got the option to take progesterone pessaries but he's left it up to me, I've got a bag full just in case, and if I start I can't stop till 12 weeks. The jabs are to 36 weeks.

Just need to get pregnant for any of it to have a chance to bloody work.

Although it's a pain to get the letter anne, are you able to get it in time? It sounds like the best decision considering?

I might ask in case I need it emvy. Thanks for listening. I'm boring myself naffing rigid so can't imagine how dull it is to read. You guys are the best x

Sorry about your friend emvy
Have you decided when to test anne it's good you doc is giving something to try and I really hope it will work for you!!!
My husband has just shown me his cousins fb post that they are expecting baby number 2 in November.. And I'm happy for them I really am but yet I'm sat in tears because it should have been us with a new baby.. They are due 20 days after I would have been if not for this last miscarriage...
Feel stupid for crying about it as it's not going to change anything.. Just wish we were all pregnant also.....

Oh smurf it's so hard. I'm having to make a really huge effort to text me friend to ask about her pregnancy. But reading how wonderful it is to hear a baby's heartbeat is devastating. (She doesn't know, so not her fault!) Never feel stupid for crying. It really is shit!

Anne I would probably test tomorrow. But I'm impatient and newer to the process than you. ❤️

Emvy it's hard. I know a lot of people who've been through this, but all some time ago, so I'm the one leaning.

I would get the letter anyway @anne then if you need it you've got it ?
I've had a bit of a
Down day - just found out that another village friend is pregnant with pretty much our due date ! She isn't even a close friend but her dh told my dh it was an accidental pregnancy! And I've felt sad all day wishing it was us!
I messaged my besties both of whom
Have had miscarriages and totally get it! And they can right over this eve and we did the run mummy run 22 minute run to honour the 22 people who so sadly died in Manchester yesterday - was just the therapy I needed - a good run and hugs with the besties! I think it's so hard knowing the bad days will still come but knowing I can ride them out helps too! Let's hope the next couple of weeks bring us all some
Bfp's and good news to cheer us all up!

Smurf and Conker, I'm sorry you're both struggling with pregnancy news. It's so difficult isn't it? Your feelings are completely justified, as unicorn said, never feel bad for crying. And indeed, bad days are always followed by good days. You've got this!

Anne, not at all, please keep stressing on here - rather that then you being stressed with nowhere to vent! As others have asked, when are you due to test? How many dpo are you now? Sorry if you already said and I missed it! So speedy this thread!

Wow, this thread is moving really fast!

It is so hard when other people announce...as unicorn and emvy have said, never feel bad for crying. Or, indeed, NOT crying. Whatever your feelings are, they are valid.

Today is CD24 and I am spottier than a 13 year old, and they are REALLY sore spots, all bruisy and red. My chin feels like someone's repeatedly flicked it.

Have agreed with DH not to test until Monday (CD29) but all I want to do is nip to the shop, get a FRER and pee on it first thing in the morning. Well, not first thing, but second thing. The SMU thing is great for me because I tend to wake for a pee at 5 am (I drink loads of water in an evening), and go straight back to sleep, but then I worried about the whole "not using the FMU" thing. I don't have much more than a couple of mouthfuls of water at that point so it shouldn't be too diluted.

I'm so desperate to test. But I'm only 7dpo today so definitely have to wait!!

Dancing I'm just so tempted to try with an IC test tomorrow! Gah talk me down from it. I keep on thinking what's the downside?