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We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread ten!

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Doublechocolatetiffin · 03/05/2017 17:55

I hope I did ok with the title (thanks for the inspiration Emwithme). I felt a bit lost without a thread to post on so I thought I'd have a bash at it.

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Smurf123 · 20/05/2017 22:49

Thanks guys it's nice to know I'm not totally imagining it although it's really early days and it is very faint... I will test again with fmu and see what happens... Fingers crossed!
Thanks nocats I know it probably would make much difference if I had a drink but after 2 miscarriages already I just don't want to risk anything.. To be honest I'm not a big drinker anyway.. Usually happier with my can of coke or bottle of lucozade... In saying that since my last pregnancy I've tried swapping those to for caffeine free alternatives of sprite and fanta..

BertieBotts · 20/05/2017 22:54

You can always keep Ovia on and cross post the entries to fertility friend or countdowntopregnancy on their websites.

EWCM usually occurs in the days leading up to ovulation and it's very friendly to sperm so you should DTD when you see it if you can or within the next day or two.

You can tell EWCM from other types because it's stretchy and mucousy, sort of like snot (sorry!!) I don't know if you ever get a sort of "string" hanging down when you wipe yourself - I used to get loads sometimes, so much that it would stick to the loo paper and it would just be dangling there Confused If it's more like hand lotion, that's creamy cm which is non fertile. Clear thin fluid is also fertile but less so than ewcm.

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/05/2017 23:23

Grrrr. Just lost a massive message!

In summation, smurf I see that clear as day and I'm crap at seeing lines on here! Very excited and happy for you, sending reassuring hugs xxx

Lovely to see you again waterfeature, sorry for confusing results but fx it's just early and you tested when you did for a reason.

I'll repost my musings on ovulation and timings and my "feelings" this month in the morning.

I'm sure I ovd on cd10. Last time I had a bfp in Feb I ovd on cd13 and got a bfn cd26 but bfp cd28.

Due in 8 days and off on hols the day after. So if it's not this month I have a boozy week to look forward to. But I've spent the last couple of cycles desperately trying not to symptom spot and this cycle I don't have the exhausting discomfort I've hoped was pre bfp and turned into god damn pmt. So even though it could come and it's early days, you never know!

We're staying in the same place this weekend where last year I woke up on DHs birthday and told him I "just knew" 10 days before the bfp that turned into my 12 week mmc. So it's probably just that leading me with the path to crazy...

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/05/2017 23:25

Absolutely yes to stringy bertie. Must never have noticed it till we started ttc and now I'm bloody obsessed with it. Tend to top up with baby lube on the day too. Can't hurt!

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/05/2017 23:27

Sorry to bang on... if you dtd every day, would opk and temping make any difference? I wouldn't mind 100% confirming how my cycle actually works, esp as it's slightly longer since the mcs at 28 days now. Is it normal to ov on different CDs?

BertieBotts · 20/05/2017 23:42

I'm writing a blog post at the moment on timing. If you shag regularly and don't have really long cycles it's not necessary to track your cycle. If you tend to be a bit haphazard or lopsided with when you DTD - say you do it loads around when you think you're fertile but not so much otherwise - and you've been trying a few months without success then it's worth looking at.

Very normal to ovulate on different cycle days month to month. Your luteal phase (ovulation to period) should stay the same. But be careful you're counting cycle day 1 correctly, as spotting can be confused for CD1 and that can mess up your luteal phase calculations. CD1 is the first day you need to use some kind of sanitary protection.

Temping is best for confirming what your ovulation date actually was especially when combined with cervical mucous observation. OPKs are better if you want something to tell you you're fertile NOW, go. Personally I don't use OPKs but have been temping for around a year now and after a few months I could tell from my temps/CM when I'm in the fertile week even when I haven't hit ovulation yet. Combining OPKs with temping is also useful if you want even more info.

It is a bit of a myth that temping is some hugely difficult and delicate thing. You can do it just fine with a cheap thermometer, you don't have to wake up at the same time every day, and if you forget a day or two you will still tend to see an overall pattern. Of course the more you stick to the proper rules the more accurate it will be, but I'm really haphazard with mine, and it still works.

This last one I'm not 100% sure - but I think that your own natural fluids are more friendly to sperm than the special lubes, and the lubes are designed for women who don't get as much fluid naturally. So there's a possibility it could do harm by overwhelming your natural fluids? Maybe worth trying one month with, one without and alternating.

BertieBotts · 20/05/2017 23:43

And of course even if you don't need to track your cycle it can be interesting to do so. That's the main reason I started.

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/05/2017 23:50

I'd love to read your blog and thank you for such a helpful reply.

Thankfully the shagging is regular and youre probably right, we sometimes used baby lube around ov but at least one of my bfps was after forgetting.

Might skip it next cycle. We don't use normal lube that often and it's just for an extra boost as ewcm tends to be plentiful Blush

I didn't know temping could work haphazardly and worried I'd get stressed at feeling it's pointless if I didn't do it the same time every day then beating myself up.

What you say about opk is what's put me off bothering tbh. My symptoms are consistent with the stabbing off and on for a day a month coinciding with ewcm which I've found reassuring.

You're so knowledgeable, are you medical by trade? Really grateful for your wisdom bertie x x

Waterfeature · 20/05/2017 23:52

I used natural family planning for years so temping and mucus observations became second nature... but I do think that maybe MC changes things a bit, for me at least. I've had EWCM at slightly odd times since my last MC.

My cycles vary from 27 to 32 days -- used to be exactly 28 but the MC seems to have changed that, as well as my advanced age. Waah again.

Just catching up with the thread and willing good news for every one of us!

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/05/2017 23:55

My cd1 is always the worst of af. Absolute torrential blood bath recently. Just grim. I've ended up on on tranexamic acid after being stuck in the loo at work gushing last month. But in some ways the certainty is I guess to be appreciated Hmm I hate having horrible chemicals floating around my system at any point of my cycle these days bit anaemia's not much fun either. And I'm still on the stupid ABs for sodding cystitis.

BertieBotts · 20/05/2017 23:56

No I couldn't do medicine I don't think - far too squeamish about other people's bodies :) I will share a link when the post is done but it's dragging. I am just one of those people who likes to read lots of research and find out all of the information I can on a topic and then boil it down to a nice understandable format. That's why I thought I might try putting it on a blog rather than spending my life doing it on mumsnet Grin

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/05/2017 23:57

So hope it happens for you soon waterfeature. We've had a lot of bfps recently so while I miss their company in our little corner here, I'm glad they're onto pasteurs new!

BertieBotts · 20/05/2017 23:57

YY Waterfeature I think it does do that which is frustrating.

Anne hope your cystitis is at least feeling better?

emvy · 20/05/2017 23:59

Thanks for responses on ewcm and ovulation - will just keep dtd every other day and keep fingers crossed that the stars align for us some point soon. And for everyone else, too!

AnneLovesGilbert · 21/05/2017 00:00

I couldn't be less medical and bitterly resent what I now know about the whole bloody baby making thing bertie! Oh for a bout of drunken unsafe sex and a healthy bouncing baby 9 months later.

But I so appreciate you taking the time. And now I must sleep. Nanny state ovia is always telling how important a good night's rest is and the DSC will be in at crack of dawn Wink

AnneLovesGilbert · 21/05/2017 00:02

You too emvy x

And much, thanks Bertie. The nasty drugs do at least fix problems Smile

AnneLovesGilbert · 21/05/2017 00:02

Not for the first time I know, but you lot keep me sane. Night all x

BertieBotts · 21/05/2017 00:09

Night. I had better go to bed too, I'm an hour ahead of you Shock

Miami81 · 21/05/2017 07:49

Smurf
Congratulations, what lovely news, definitely a line.
Bertie
Just read through your posts and wanted to say I think a blog is a great idea. Just wanted to give my two cents, I temped. I have done almost since the start of ttc. I always thought I ov'ed on cd14 like they tell you even though I am a 26 day cycle, but the month before bfp it became apparent that I have a slightly slow rise and in fact I ov on cd 13, or very early in cd14, if I didn't temp I never would have picked up on it. I looked back and the cycles where we hit cd13 were our previous pregnancies. This also ties in better with my ewcm. It is all very interesting how it all works. The month before this bfp we dtd on cd11, cd12 and cd14 and no bfp, I was so distraught. But there you go one day can make a difference in this mullarkey.
Like anne I never bothered with opk's, I found them quite stressful and made me a bit crazy and felt very stressed if they weren't showing surges.
I also was not a very diligent temp taker, I just take it when I wake up, I never really stressed out about what time of day it was (unless I was already up, then I didn't bother and just took it next day).
Anyway I hope that is helpful in some small way.
I do plan to use temping and ewcm monitoring as family planning once we are out the other side of this, feels weird to even think that, but I certainly will not be putting any more chemicals into myself unnecessarily.
Have a good Sunday all.

DancingUnicorn · 21/05/2017 09:00

Thanks so much for all the info Bertie and Miami. I've temped pretty diligently this cycle (since mc actually). My oh gets up before me, so I just shove the thermometer in my mouth then. I bought one which remembers the last temp it took, so you don't even need to read it once it's finished!! It's genius. Would love some help in figuring out if I've ovd this month though. I mean, I had ovary pain for two days so I assumed I had, but I wouldn't describe the slight increase in temp as a 'spike' which Ovia keeps telling me to look for...

Miami how are you doing?

We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread ten!
Smurf123 · 21/05/2017 09:29

Thank you guys..
I've done another test this morning with fmu (at 430am Hmm) and there is a shadow of a line (I think) but it isn't any darker so I'm not sure. I'm just going to leave it for a few days and then use a digital.. I kinda like that there is no confusion when it's written in words.
Hope everyone is well and has a nice Sunday Smile

conkerchops · 21/05/2017 09:33

@smurf I can defo see a line!!!! Congratulations!!!!!
I think I will give this temping a whirl then!
I am a bit sporadic with the opk's but after reading the sperm meets egg plan this month I started taking them on cd 10 and was v surprised to get a positive on cd 13 and 14 - I have a 34/35 day cycle normally so wasn't expecting positive till around cd 20/21/22 ! Anyway meant we dtd lots then - will still do it lots this week too in case opks are wrong (????!!) I got loads of stringy ewcm leading up to and on days of the positive opks so it all seems to fit! It then dried up right after which again fits with the 'ewcm will dry up once ovulation has occurred ' theory!
Now just need to be patient for next week or so to see if successful!!!!

yellowfrontdoor · 21/05/2017 11:05

Smurf keeping it all crossed for you!

emvy · 21/05/2017 11:33

Gah, I hope dtd was enough the day before and day after ewcm. Fingers crossed anyway. I also know that so much can happen even if an egg is fertilised - it may never implant etc etc but we all want the best chance don't we!

Does anyone else get any other ovulation symptoms? The past 3 months (since mc), I've experienced bloating and nausea around what I think must correspond with ovulation. Not that it matters that I'm getting these symptoms, I just wondered if I was an odd one! I also feel absolutely shattered today although have had a fairly chilled weekend 🤔

emvy · 21/05/2017 11:33

Also hoping you get a nice clear positive on the digital Miami x

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