Thread 28, TTC #1 | We may be hormonal giraffes but we don't eat no low fat humous

[Londonjam]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

How is everyone else?

Jam - that's perfect, now you've relaxed it should release hopefully xx

Flash - is AF late?

Miw - totally understandable hun but good to have you back now. I'm okay though I've just woken up with a headache 🙄 Wonderful.

Thanks for kind words ladies. Yes quiet those comments are particularly hilarious aren't they... ha ha bloody ha!

That's good about your dh jam, that must have been a.bit of a relief. How are you feeling now?

Yeah I wish mine were too kathrino. Nearly all of our friends are now pg or have families so we do feel very left out, and it's not like we want to be. I just found it tough even hearing the girls who hadn't started trying yet talking about baby names and making all these plans as that's what we were doing a month ago and then all ended. I just have zero excitement about any of it anymore and then feel sad that I won't ever have that feeling of innocence but hey ho, can't change any of it.

This will sound like an over reaction but was so painful... my best friend said she had some books to give me when I told her I was pg but obviously then had mc and then one of our close friends came to the hen weekend whose heavily pg now and I saw the books in her bag to give to her. I just felt so upset that I couldn't have them? I know it's mad and I can go and buy them myself it's really not a big deal but it just cut me to the core.

Eurgh sorry for being such a Debbie downer ladies x

Big hugs to everyone who's struggling. The middle of the night sads are just the worst - it feels like there's just no hope.

Chlo - that sounds really upsetting, not silly at all. I'm so sorry that this is all happening to you.

Helllooooo - on the train back from Lake District and am popping in to catch up and say hello!

So much to catch up on!

Congratulations carley!!! Amazing news 😁😁😁

Sorry to those that have been struck by damn AF 💐

Glad your DH could change work plans jam 1 hopefully that will help with relaxing more.

I have the same issues with the digi opks skipper - do you only use them with FMU? Mine never picks up surge with FMU, but then a cheapie will pick it up early evening, then I'll get a static smiley testing then as well. Think I'm just going to pack in the digis, pretty pointless if I never surge in the morning.

Middle of the night sads are awful gaelach- I know them well. I've found the Headspace app has been a total lifesaver in helping me deal with feelings and anxiety - really recommend it.

DH and I have had such a relaxing break away from the city - I left my work phone at home, we did some hiking, spent time in the spa, got massages, ate really good food, sampled a few great ales without overdoing it but not stressing about it either - it was all brilliant and exactly what we needed. We didn't HS once, which is actually totally fine with both of us! It was nice to spend time together where HS didn't have to be on the cards as we're quite frankly, born sick of it! I carried on using opks just to make sure I didn't surge twice and all negative, and the intercourse timer on FF (see pic) reassured me that we've probably done what we can for this cycle!

I am very very behind again... I feel in limbo land at the moment... maybe it is good to take a bit of a break.

I am kwick
42, single
Have done IUI, medicated IUI, natural IVF and medicated IVF. Have had 2 BFPs both which have resulted in MC. Last one in February. Will likely have to go down donor egg route but my current FC have said no more treatment until my BMI is 35 or under.

I hope there have been shed loads of BFPs in my absence and that many more will come.

gaelach 8 DPO is usually tears territory for me too

Flash hope AF stays away

Miw I know how you feel. Hope having a break has helped

That is a bit heartless chlo, I would be upset about that too

Hello pyjamas! Glad you had a good break. I love the Lake District. I also love Headspace!

Hello kwick good to see you. The most recent grads were Carley, glitter, mrsbluebell and macs.

Still No positive OPK over here. Very annoying. It's never this late - wonder whether I might be anovulatory for the first time since TTC. I thought it was getting darker earlier but done another and it's snowy white. Ugh 😑

Pyjamas - hey! Your time away sounds lovely, OH and I went there back in September and it was wonderful (marred ever so slightly by a terrible ovulatory cyst). Which lake were you staying near? It's funny how you went away and the nice thing about it was you didn't have sex! But I know exactly what you mean, our lives are ruled by sex now and when you get time off to enjoy life how it should be - it's incredible. My opks are still all over the place, I'm getting low one day, high the next. It can't seem to decide if it's picking up estrogen or not. I use FMU as per the instructions but I'll try evening to see if it makes any difference, to be honest I'm only using them because Clearblue gave me 2 free boxes for doing a study. Ironically, on the study they performed perfectly.

Kwick - good to hear from you, how are you getting on lowering your BMI? I'm the flip side of that, trying to increase my BMI for IVF - really sruggling...have eaten an extra meal since beginning of March and have put on zero pounds. It's ridiculous trying to meet heir standards when sometimes bodies are just put together differently. I hope you have been getting all the support you need from family and friends, your mum always sounds lovely so I hope you've managed to drag yourself through it. Your still an inspiration to me Kwick xx

We stayed in Grasmere skipper - lovely little village with a gorgeous lake - we did the Easdale tarn walk which was both tiring and exhilarating! Also paid Windermere a visit and visited a couple of sleepy beautiful villages called Braithwaite and Buttermere. The temptation to pack in stressful city life and move somewhere remote was strong! And you're right, enjoying life without the pressured having to have sex was brilliant. We just got to enjoy each other's company for once and only mentioned ttc a couple of times 😊
Hope your opks start playing ball soon - how annoying! You too jam.

And hello kwick! Good to see you 😊

I'm considering doing the Body Coach 90 day plan to shift a stone - anyone done it before? I need a kick up the bum!

Pyjamas - lovely! How did the weather hold up?

Weather was great on the first day, then alternated between sunshine and drizzle for the rest - wouldn't expect anything more tbh!

Hi everyone I feel really bad posting here as such a downer and I haven't been around recently, but this is such a lovely supportive thread and I so need a bit of hand holding. Most likely will be back here properly soon.

I had an early scan last weds when I thought I was over 7 weeks, but it showed a 5-6 week pregnancy (gestational sac + yolk sac but no embryo). Either my dates are out or it's a missed mc (i.e. stopped
growing a couple of weeks ago), but there's no way of knowing so I need to wait until next Monday and be rescanned. I've been going totally mad trying to work out dates and obviously things could have been a bit out because I conceived straight after a mc with no AF in between, but I just can't see how I could be out by 2 weeks as that would mean I got my bfp at less than 7dpo. So I'm almost certain I'm heading for my 3rd consecutive miscarriage. The wait is just horrible. And I've also got to face facts that it's not just bad luck, there's clearly some underlying problem that means I can't hold on to my babies. I haven't got anyone to talk to in RL except DH and he's at the end of his tether having put up with me sobbing all weekend. Feeling pretty desperate right now.

Harriet I know it's hard but they and fill your days this week and make them as busy as possible. Once you get to monday if all is good try and relax a little if not take some time to rebuild yourself and then go to the doctors.

Kwick hello nice to see you x

harriet I'm so sorry you're going through all this worry (again!). Sending you lots of love and strength for the next week Being in limbo is just the worst.

I honestly feel this could go either way but I think you're right to be guarded as there's just no way of knowing until next week. I also don't intend to give you false hope but wanted to say since you're not clear of your dates because of no AF after the cp there's scope for the scan to be out by a couple of days and also for you to have got a very early BFP. It's not impossible, my friend recently got a faint line at 7dpo (backed up by a blood test that day - hcg 5). Her earliest bfps before that were 10dpo.

I know it's excruciatingly painful but hang in there, don't give up on your baby just yet! We're all here for you and I really hope your DH continues to support you fully. You need him more than ever right now. This is honestly one of the worst situations a woman can ever be in. Do you still have symptoms?

Thanks alexia and miw. I don't really have symptoms - boobs still sore but that's it. I had crazy bloating when I first found out but that subsided - not sure now whether that was when it stopped growing. I don't really feel pregnant at all so I think it just has to be bad news and trying to prepare for that, but also can't let go of tiny bit of hope. DH just thinks we can try again and all will be fine - he doesn't understand my fears that it will never happen and that id started to love this baby already.

Harriet - I hope it's a false alarm, I really do. I wish I could give you some advice, I know it is possible to get a BFP that early but I have to be honest, it is quite unlikely. Is next Monday the earliest they can do it? Or is that just the only way they will know for certain?

Oh harriet, my heart goes out to you. Sending you so much love as you wait for news xx

skipper they recommend waiting 12 days as that should definitely show heartbeat if things are ok. I've got through this weekend just crying and obsessively googling causes of recurrent miscarriage, but don't know how I'll do another whole week at work. I agree it's so unlikely with the bfp. Also had a positive opk so pretty sure when I conceived.

Just catching up...

Flash don't feel like you're being hysterical, this is real and even if it's nothing serious medically it's still irritating to not feel like your body is working properly. Plus seeing blood is a trigger. I wouldn't worry about the infection risk with a HSG, you couldn't be that unlucky, surely? How are things now, still spotting?

Skipper I'm another who only surges in the late afternoon / evening so CBD never works for me either. Try doing a few cheapies later in the day? The flashing smileys drove me mad! Hope your egg is here soon hon.

So sorry Winging

I'm sorry you saw the books Chlo, that would have really upset me too. It's not silly at all, that pain is real to you

Hi kwick, lovely to see you. Hope you'll be out of limbo soon. Are you planning treatment in Spain?

Sounds like you had a wonderful, stress free time pyjamas

Some people really don't think before they speak Quiet, agree with Kath, it's ridiculous how many people think you can just fall pregnant whenever you want. If only it was that easy!

Jam glad DH was able to switch his flights. I really hope it's not an anov cycle for you, hurry up egg / opk!!!

Hi miw glad you're back with us.

LSFX Gaelach. Hope you're feeling better now

Okay, well the lack of symptoms (and positive opk) doesn't sound as promising but you just never know. That's the hard part. Hope you can make it through this week, can you take time off it all gets too much?

I know it's probably just your DH's clinical way of thinking but of course you will have been attached from the moment you got your much wanted bfp. Hugs!

Hi Harriet, I know it's hard but don't give up hope yet, the measurements to date such an early pregnancy are all so similar that the tinyest error on measuring can put you a week-10days behind expected. We are talking fractions of mm. the heart starts beating as I understand it somewhere between the 6th and 7th week. So it may just be that your dates are out by 4-5 days and the scanner was off on measuring- as you say they said you were 5-6 weeks which is quite a difference in dates. Say you could have actually been 6+4 for example and the scanner just missed half a mm of measuring which is why they gave you 5-6. and you might just be 4 or 5 days behind where you should be. Which would then possibly make your dates match up?
I really hope it works out well for you and your fears arnt confirmed.

Alexia - oh fuck, you've just reminded me...forgot to do the opk this afternoon XD. I guess I'm not stressing about it anymore.

Wow Glittery - good info!

Good luck Harriet, I really really hope it's a false alarm. Feel free to vent your frustration to us as much as you want.

So sorry you're going through this worry again harriet I'm thinking of you and hoping so much for good news for you. Talk to us all you need to

Thanks alexia are you coming up to fertile week yet?

Can I get some OPK advice please - could that strongest line be it? That was yesterday. Mine always go much stronger than the control when I get a positive. Perhaps I missed the strongest part though? I didn't bother writing dates and time down and wish I had now

I think it's likely you've surged but missed your true positive Jam. It's happened to me before (I tried to find the pic to share) and when lined up like yours there was a clear "darkest" one. Temping confirmed it for me. Has your CM switched?

Yes it's fertile week for me. CD10 today but a negative opk today which was expected. Good job really as dh is really struggling atm 💔 We haven't had sex since last fertile window. I wanted to have sex for fun last night (and since af) but it didn't happen. It's unbearable because I can't control this part like I can with everything else. I'm so worried about this cycle already. His blood test is on Thursday morn which is too late! I'm already panicking about us not having sex later tonight.

Jam, that dark one looks like mine do when I've managed to catch the surge. It's probably fractionally darker than the control line which I'd guess still counts and if you've gone back to paler ones, that would suggest something has happened. Clearly, I'm no expert though...