Is it a line? Time for some wine? Yep, it's TTC after miscarriage thread number nine.

[BertieBotts]

Hello ladies

Hope you don't mind my little poem...

Fingers crossed for some sticky beans this time.

(Newbies welcome too!)

miami sorry to hear the rmc are being rubbish especially the blase "sure youll be fine next time", sending you and lots of baby dust, i hope you can get the rest of the bloods done somewhere soon, have you looked into the b12 difficency? Ive heard that can be a factor in 1st trimester.

Haha we should all definitely be some sort of pregnancy detecting experts- baby dectives!

anne yes speidi! Not sure id want to be tied to spencer pratt for the rest of my life tho, hopefully the baby will be more her than him. If its a boy they can call it justin bobby

Great news keepon, wishing you all the very best.

Anne, what's the aspirin chat? Think I'll give the reflexology a whirl, sounds great. Hope I fall asleep too, nothing like a good kip!!

I know bloody Speidi "we got pregnant within a month".F* off

Anne
Sorry just realised I never answered your question re implantation dip. It can be a good indication on implantation as there is an oestrogen spike to let the embryo (wrong word, they call them something in ivf, anyway the sperm and egg once they meet) attach onto the uterus wall. However not everyone gets them. The only reason I am looking out for one is that I got a clear one in first pregnancy.

Also if this cycle doesn't work out I think I will treat myself to some reflexology.
If it does work out I may treat myself to a couple of sessions anyway, anything to keep the stress levels down!!

This is chart from first pregnancy and that is what my implantation dip looked like. No sign of one this cycle. Which is disappointing as it would be such a good indicator that things were at least on track.

Hi all. I am a little pissed off to be joining you on this thread (because, honestly, we'd all rather not have to be here).

Got my BFP (on only our second cycle) the day before my 40th birthday (which rather put paid to my plans to mainline champagne) but unfortunately started bleeding a couple of weeks later. EPU scan showed a sac measuring 5+4 with heartbeat - I wasn't convinced as I should've been 7+2 by my dates, but then the bleeding didn't stop and a week later there was just an empty sac (which passed naturally a couple of days later).

Just finished my first AF post MC, and DH and I are "back on the horse" again.

I'm hoping to just be able to DTD and not stress but I really am not that type of person!

Hi All. Hope I'm in the right thread. Never used a forum before. Bit of a maze.
I'm desperate for some second opinions and my husband says we need to keep quiet from family just in case the worst happens again.
I was pregnant in December but miscarried in January. We were luckily enough though to see our little Poppy Seed which is what we knick named it twice before it happened. The first time they were a strongoing little heartbeat pumping away and everything was fine but after more blood and another visit they found that the heartbeat was struggling and the gestational sac was too small. Had to wait two weeks to go back and right on the two week Mark I started getting small clots and soon after. It was confirmed, baby was there but hasn't grown since about 2 days after last visit and no heartbeat. Absolutely crushed me. It was my first time trying and after melting over that little heartbeat I had so much love for that baby. Soon after I had the op and moved on as best we could since.
So here we are now TTC. First day of my last period was 20/03/2017 so officially due Saturday 15/03/2017. Me being as impatient as I am... had to take a cheap yesterday and after seeing a negative I picked it up to throw away and a very very faint line caught my eye. And I mean faint. Had to take a better test to clear and confusion so took a clear blue with the cross result and was thrilled to see a cross!!! Told my husband and as he likes the reassurance of seeing it there in writing we bought two digitals clear blue.
Last night's came up not pregnant so straight away he's now unsure and we decided that as it was later in the day and I'd drank loads so my urine wasn't concentrated we would take another this morning. Up at 4am today 13/04/2017. I've taken two strips another digital and another clear blue cross option.
Still getting really really faint lines on digital, still a positive cross on my clear blue but annoyingly a not pregnant on my digital. I've read up that the Clearblue digital are so much less sensitive needing over double the HCG than the others so I'm waiting until the bank holiday Monday now 17/04/2017 but I just don't know how to feel between now and then and with 4 days off my mind has plenty of time to run wild. I've attached some pictures. Would any be so kind at to just offer some opinions?
So sorry for the book also x

Pics x

Chapmans definitely positive tests from what I can see. Your mantra for the next few days is - today I am pregnant.
Digi's need more hormone. Stop testing for a few days as they will not change the outcome of this. I have everything crossed for you. Absolutely nothing you can do other than try and distract yourself as best you can.
Sorry for your previous loss, it really really messes with you so we all understand your nervousness this time.
Remember all the poas in the world won't change what happens, it will only stress you out more. Good luck.

Emwithme
Welcome and sorry for your loss.
I speak for myself only, but I really am not that type of person either. I really wish I was, just sailing through life thinking everything will be ok. Been knocked around a bit over the last year by this ttc shit, but everyone here is very supportive and have answers to questions or handholding where required. Best of luck to you going forward, the stats are on your side.

Thanks so much Miami81 before the test I've been really focused and determined about my new SW diet I'm doing but since I'm not interested at all. Just wishing away my weekend now which I really don't want to do. I really appreciate the second opinion and will for sure update when I try again Monday x

keepon what great news! It does us all good to hear it :)

Chapman and emwithme I'm sorry for your losses. It is an absolute head melt, this ttc! Before I was pregnant I had pretty much no idea about foetal development (heck I didn't even really know all the pregnancy symptoms either), and before the mc I had pretty much no idea how much is involved in that and then in ttc afterwords. Now I'm full of knowledge I don't want, and it can drive you a bit crazy! I find that focusing on the day I'm in helps (I avoid counting down too much if I can as it's only wishing your life away), and yoga every morning helps me do that. I certainly have my moments though!

Em so sorry to see you here. Too many familiar names. :(

I am pretty annoyed as my post surgery bleeding had stopped. Two days of nothing. Then back again. Urgh. It hasn't been long and it's not heavy, so I'm not concerned. Just wanting all this to be over. Have ics coming over the weekend so will be able to test at least. Weird hoping for a bfn! Then undecided about waiting until after AF. I feel really guilty, but I'm rather enjoying feeling well physically after two months of feeling like early pregnancy crap! Not sure I will cope with potentially going right back into that mode.

Have a day off work today for a wedding so the weekend starts here! Hope people have nice plans to keep spirits as high as possible.

That's so interesting Miami, thanks for sharing. Do you wake up at the same time every day to temp? How are you doing today?

I'm so sorry you feel like your care is letting you down. Have you called the Miscarriage Assoc to discuss anything about tests or to offload about your RMC? Might be helpful.

swim, my RMC doctor's put me on low dose aspirin for the second half of the cycle, so just before ov through to af or bfp. There's loads about it online and people self medicate with it because there can't really be any harm. Millions of people are wandering round on it for heart problems. I mentioned it to him at our first appointment and he was very dismissive but lo and behold, had my last mc and when we were back a coupe of weeks ago he put me on it. I'll switch from aspirin straight to fragmin/clexane at bfp.

Like I said, there may be nothing much to reflexology, but like aspirin it's not going to hurt and it's relaxing and you feel like you're doing something. I found someone who did fertility and pregnancy reflexology and specialised in women's stuff. I was actually pregnant by the time I saw her first, and it was a nice monthly treat then. Now I'm ttc again it's also nice! She comes to my house which is even better, curled up on the sofa as soon as she'd left and dozed.

Mulder how'd you get on at the hospital? Is everything okay?

Loosing what was left of my marbles anne.
Testing in the morning I think. DH is on the hunt for frer's on his way home from work this evening - can't find them anywhere myself. I have a few ic's and a tesco own brand but not sure I would trust them. I will be 11dpo tomorrow morning.
Might all be irrelevant. Feels like AF is arriving today.
Have acupuncture this evening so hoping that makes me feel more zen!
I really hate it when people imply that if I only relaxed a bit I might get pregnant. I just want to scream at them. Fuckers. Smug fuckers at that.
My sister tried in as nice a way as possible to suggest that my anxiousness wouldn't help, I told her to fuck off. Women in war zones get successfully pregnant so why can't I??
That's a really good idea about miscarriage association. I will see how we get on through this weekend and then maybe ring them next week.
Sorry for all the cursing. Am having one of those days.

Enjoy the wedding Dancing . I can't tell you how well I can relate to what you're saying. I've been really lucky to conceive quite quickly and after a month after mmc I conceived the next cycle, and then lost it at 5 weeks. The month after I was pretty sure I'd conceived again and was absolutely stunned when af arrived. But after a day of moaning I realised it wasn't the worst thing in the world and I really wasn't ready. I am now and I'm pretty desperate for another bfp! But that month, so soon after 3 consecutive losses, I just couldn't have dealt with it mentally. For the days I was pregnant with the last mc I was struggling to do anything such was my insane anxiety.

Obviously I'd loved to have still been pregnant! No one is here because they're NOT wanting another BFP. But as I had had another mc I probably needed a month off the cycle after.

em and chapman so sorry for your losses. chapman, everything crossed for you. Miami gives you very sound wisdom and advice on pesky digis and trying to wait. Yes, there's nothing like getting the good news in black and white, but the bastards are so much fussier. Try and keep distracted if you can't be calm and it'll be clearer soon. For now, keep chatting here, it's saved my sanity more times than I can remember.

In a way I wish you'd all get your bfps and sod off to other boards , but for now while we're all here I can't tell you how much all your support and advice and just listening means x

And yeah WLM, god how we all miss the days of blissful naivety. I hear how much DH knows about baby making these days - and his kids are from ivf so he wasn't entirely innocent before - and I realise how we've changed.... My Mum, mother of 4, found out what luteal phase meant a few months ago. She said it was amazing there was so much to conception and pregnancy, she's one of those "oh, I only had to look at your father" types

It's a pile of fucking shit bags Miami, let it all out love. TTC, especially again, is shit. Waiting is the fucking worst. And smug bastard types who say anything apart from "it sucks, I'm sorry you're going through this" want to fuck the fuck off. I do hear you, honestly.

It's worth a go with the tesco one in the morning if no frers. Do you know what levels it picks up on? I've got an asda cheapie at home that can show from 15 I think. What dpo have you had bfps in the past? I was going through my ovia dates to see if there's a pattern for mine. I've twice had a bfn at 12dpo and then a bfp at 14.

I'd give them a call. I haven't yet but it's at the back of my mind that next time I need to bawl or interrogate someone about WHY THE FUCK IT KEEPS HAPPENING TO ME I might try them and give DH a break

Can you kick something, then eat something nice, and/or get some fresh air, listen to something loud and shouty?

Anne
12dpo both times, really strong positives both times though at that. So maybe yeah the Tesco will do. Thanks.

xxx

Please keep chatting if it helps.

Hi everyone. Please can I join?
I miscarried on Monday at 10+3. Had d&c Tuesday.
Just feel totally heartbroken, devastated. It was my first pregnancy and I feel like all my dreams have been snatched away.

I was just wondering what everyone else's thoughts are on going straight back into it (so to speak!) vs waiting and having a break. The doctor we spoke to said to go with whatever we felt was best.

I'll place-mark & try and catch up with the thread.

So sorry for your loss yellow. There's nothing like it, it's absolutely heartbreaking and you need to be gentle with yourself while you deal with everything you've been through.

Once you're feeling better, bleeding all stopped and you've had a bfn, then see how you feel and get back to it if you feel ready. When people are told to wait it's almost always only so if you conceived again straight away they could date it properly. So I'd definitely wait for a bfn before dtd unprotected, just so you know it's a new pregnancy if it happens. But again, it's up to you.

I had an early mc last year, ovulated within days and conceived again straight away. Sadly then had a mmc at 12 weeks with that one, but it was nothing to do with having got pregnant again then, just one of those things. I dated it from the first day of bleeding from the previous mc as if it was a normal af and the midwife said it happens quite often.

Don't stress yourself out with the whole "everyone's more fertile after a mc thing". It's true for some people and not for a LOT of others and it'll drive you nutty if you're not ready! So, in short, honestly just do whatever feels right to you and your partner.

Thank you so so much. Your reply made me well up.

I just keep thinking this time last week... this time last week we were so happy.

When's the best time to test again? When the bleeding's all finished?

yellowfrontdoor I'm so sorry you are here. It's absolutely devastating and so incredibly difficult to get your head around.

Firstly I wanted to say take care of yourself, I found I was quite wobbly for a while after my ERPC. Hopefully you can be looked after over Easter.

Secondly, I was told to test 14 days after to check I had a negative pregnancy test. That was yesterday and I'm pretty sure it was clear (although I swear you can make lines on those test by staring at them hard enough - like a magic eye picture!). I'd stopped bleeding nearly a week before.

We've decided to ttc straight away, I don't want to wait and I think it'll help me if I can get pregnant again. I felt really raw when I found out, so many emotions and so sad about it. It's been nearly a month now though and each day is a bit easier. Take it a day at a time, feel sad and cry whenever you need too. I think letting the emotions out helps with the healing process.

One of my best friends just had a baby boy and the name she is thinking of is our favourite name that we really wanted. So unreasonably annoyed - she obviously doesn't have a clue what names we had planned. I just want to scream.

Welcome @yellowfrontdoor I am very sorry for your loss. We are a lovely bunch of people going through some shit times together. Sorry for all my ranting today - I'm not normally so all over the place.