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Is it a line? Time for some wine? Yep, it's TTC after miscarriage thread number nine.

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BertieBotts · 11/03/2017 12:38

Hello ladies Grin

Hope you don't mind my little poem...

Fingers crossed for some sticky beans this time.

(Newbies welcome too!)

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LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/04/2017 07:08

Thanks for the nice messages. This one is sort of easier because I was more prepared for it, but it's also a bit harder because I'm more worried that something is wrong with me now.

Miami81 · 10/04/2017 07:24

Lisa
Completely understandable to feel like that about it. Have you spoken to your gp? I would let them know what has happened as most count a chemical for rmc purposes (I think). I keep trying to remind myself that it is entirely possible that I have just had really shitty luck and that both mine could have had completely unrelated causes. Statistically we are all more likely to have a healthy pregnancy next time round. As my boss puts it (they had six mc), we are still very much on the good side of the stats. A much harder road then others have to tread but hopefully all worth it in the end. Mind yourself over the next wee while.

Ekphrasis · 10/04/2017 08:44

Sorry I missed your post lisa. I would speak to gp; I don't know your history but there are some simple checks that can be done apparently.

I've recently heard a phrase for any older women ttc; you've got to crack a few more eggs to get a good one. That helps me. Also, I've heard a lot from women in mothering groups I'm in about "it starts with the egg". I got it and found it helpful; I didn't go down the q10 route as seemed expensive and thought I'd try naturally but I'd does have some proven benefits. Not as expensive as ivf mind you.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 10/04/2017 08:53

Thanks, miami - I actually started a thread this morning about whether to go to the GP as I was unsure and didn't want to clog up this thread too much. So far I've had one response saying they'll probably tell me to sod off, which is what I worried about. I'm also not really sure how to class mine - I think they're chemicals as they're so early, and the tests would seem to suggest that they never really get off the ground, but people seem to go on (endlessly and quite upsettingly) about how chemicals are women's own fault for testing early as otherwise they'd never know - but with my last one I was still getting positives at five weeks. Obviously I don't know yet with this one when it'll end.

DancingUnicorn · 10/04/2017 09:22

Lisa I'm so sorry. It's not your fault at all, and this is upsetting regardless of how far you get. I hope you have a kind gp who listens to your concerns and can do some testing. It's completely understandable that you would test early when you want something this much! 💐

Ekphrasis · 10/04/2017 09:26

That's interesting bertie. I tend to have shortish cycles anyway. I was convinced I'd ovulated today as woke up so hot. Just have to see I guess.

Miami81 · 10/04/2017 09:30

Oh Lisa people really piss me off sometimes. It doesn't make it any less valid, what it does mean is that you know that you are losing them. If you weren't testing early then you would never know and they would start testing you for other problems! They would start with infertility tests which clearly isn't the issue for you. I would go and speak to your gp and give them the full story, maybe they will do some hormonal tests for you? I seem to recall reading somewhere that if you are suffering from chemicals where things never fully establish that it may be hormonal (although I have read so much stuff at this stage that it all becomes a blur).

MulderitsmeX · 10/04/2017 17:08

lisa Flowers definitely definitely go to the doctors, testing early is useful to establish where the problem lies, also as pp have said if it gets you to the rmc more easily as well it will be worth it. It would be much worse to not know x

NicolaC17 · 11/04/2017 07:30

I agree Lisa its best to go to the Gp so if you need it it's on your records. They did nothing thing mine as I didn't even make it to 5 weeks buts it's now on my records and the RMC are testing for all kinds because I've also got further along.

Someone else mentioned the book about it starts with the egg. I downloaded it last night and so far it's brilliant.

Hope everyone else is getting on ok xx

LisaSimpsonsbff · 11/04/2017 07:35

Thanks so much for the kind comments, everyone. I think I'll see when the bleeding starts this time and then go to the GP. Thanks again - you're all lovely

Doublechocolatetiffin · 11/04/2017 08:18

Oh no Lisa I'm so sorry. I agree with everyone else definitely go see the Dr. Hopefully you'll get a nice one who will start things moving now. Even if not though, I've had so many experience with the NHS where I've been ignored and you need to keep persevering and what I learnt was it always gives you more clout when you've been multiple times about the same issue so at least it'll be on your notes.

I have just done my first post ERPC test, am hoping for a negative. What do you guys think?

Is it a line? Time for some wine? Yep, it's TTC after miscarriage thread number nine.
DancingUnicorn · 11/04/2017 08:24

I ordered mine yesterday tiffin. I'm really bad at telling, sorry! Are you planning on waiting for AF before you start trying?

Doublechocolatetiffin · 11/04/2017 08:45

Dancing it's really hard itsnt it. I thought it was a definite negative, but then with the camera I think I can see a very very faint positive. I'll try again tomorrow and see.

We're planning on trying straight away which is why I want to be sure on the negative test.

DancingUnicorn · 11/04/2017 08:50

Yeah, I think the camera can distort it too.

I can't decide whether to wait. Think I'm going to try to ask the GP why they tell you to. (I know it's mostly/entirely for dating...) I really desperately want to be pregnant again, but no idea how I'm going to cope with it emotionally, so wondering if I should wait for that reason.

Ekphrasis · 11/04/2017 09:18

I don't know either dancing. I'm
low today but mainly as I'm feeling crap. I thought things were at an end yesterday but then had more pains and passed some large clots. I wish it would end so I could move on! Have a scan tomorrow which will be helpful.

Doublechocolatetiffin · 11/04/2017 13:12

dancing we asked the consultant specifically is there any reason to wait other than so they can date accurately and she said no, so we're going to go for it!

Ekphrasis I'm sorry you're feeling low. It's such a horrible time isn't it. I hope the scan is helpful tomorrow.

DancingUnicorn · 11/04/2017 13:22

I'm sorry you're feeling down ekphrasis. It's really shit. I'm sorry you're still having pain too. I've been getting lots of cramps and back pain, but no more bleeding, so hoping when my hpts turn up they'll show negative.

keeponrunning85 · 12/04/2017 09:59

Hello ladies.

I hope you don't mind, I thought I'd pop back with an update. Just been for my first scan and am measuring about 6 weeks with a heartbeat. I'm a bit worried that it is measuring behind what it should be but the nurse wasn't concerned. Also, last time there was a heartbeat at 6 weeks but it had stopped at 8 so I'm not feeling particularly reassured to be honest.

Anyway, I shall bow out of this thread now and in the nicest possible way I hope I won't be back. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you all and hope to see lots of you on the staying positive after miscarriage thread soon. Thank you for all the support over the past few months.

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/04/2017 10:14

Hey keepon, really good to hear from you. A scan with a heartbeat is a good place to be. I know it's hard but try to focus on the positives. You have a lovely live wriggly baby in your belly and it's a lucky little bean Smile

We've had a couple of people pop back with happy updates so please swing by again when you fancy, gives me hope.

I had reflexology on Monday which was ace. She did a whole endocrinology cleansing thing which was a bit sore but she seemed happy! The bit that hurt was apparently my adrenal gland. Who knows what's in it but it was incredibly peaceful and relaxing and I felt like I was doing something nice for myself. I also nodded off, a good sign! Grin So will definitely have her back.

I'm CD 8, af feels like it was ages ago. Getting back on the aspirin this week and hoping it works.

How's everyone? Who's testing soon?

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/04/2017 10:17

Hope your scan goes well today Ekphrasis

Miami81 · 12/04/2017 15:08

Ladies
I am losing my cotton pickin' mind here. 9dpo, no implantation dip in bbt (bummer), today massive migraine and from Sunday big snotty nose (which others suggest can be a symptom).
I HATE this bit, the never ending waiting. I don't think I am but it doesn't help when your body decides to take the piss out of you.
Also just got a letter from the recurrent miscarriage clinic stating that based on the bloods they did and the scan I should be fine. Exact words "it is very likely that you will have a successful pregnancy in the future". Which has just made me super mad, they haven't done all the bloods and I think they did the APS test wrong.
Has anyone had APS tests done?

MulderitsmeX · 12/04/2017 16:19

Such good news keeponrunning
AF due next Tuesday, will test hopefully not before Monday to check for chemical pregnancy etc but trying not to test til the !!

ekphrais it gets better once the bleeding stops, hope you're not back at work yet?

anne your reflexo sounds fab!!

Seeing my surgeon again now (in waiting room lol) to double check the pains I had.

Am also desperately trying not to symptom spot which is hard!!

Randomly I've been seeing in the 'sleb news (I know...) the girls from "the hills" have literally all had first babies either last or this year which gave me a little Envy moment, I think cuz I watched it so much as a teen / early 20s that I kind of feel like they're moving on and I'm not. Although tbf I'm not a millionaire living in sunny California either Confused

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/04/2017 16:35

It's the fucking worst Miami, rant away love. I always enjoy the bit before I think I've ovd cos I know how shit the bit after is.

Is the temping a dead cert on implantation or not?

I haven't had the APS done, just looked it up as I didn't know what it was, and had a peek at my own blood results. Doesn't seem to be there, and they have to be done at intervals don't they? What makes you think they were done wrong? What else are you waiting on test wise?

I've had 4 pages of results, most of it I've never heard of, but it's interesting to see what they test. Maybe we should compare notes. Just redact anything identifiable!

Stay strong Mulder! But no judgement if you don't and test early. Hope you get seen soon, please let us know what they say.

The headline I saw said Speidi had spawned! Is that who you mean? I hope they're saving for therapy for the poor kid already. What a pair of attention seeking psychopaths. Bless their pampered entitled hearts Grin

Miami, have you asked about taking low dose aspirin?

Miami81 · 12/04/2017 16:53

Anne
I don't have my results, just a letter.
According to Lesley regan book APS has to be taken with no tourniquet and fresh within ten minutes they have to do the test. My crowd didn't do that at all.
I'm not waiting on anything, I just know that they haven't checked me for anything other than clotting issues. No hormonal tests at all and no mention of nk cells.
No treatment plan or reassurance at all anne, no mention of aspirin or progesterone, so just feel really let down, like in the postcode lottery of these things we have fallen fowl of them not having as much experience as bigger places with more research money.
We have people coming for dinner on Friday. I shouldn't be testing til Sunday, was planning to have a couple of glasses of prosecco so will test just in case. Would feel like a knob if I didn't test and then was pregnant and felt like shit for having a small glass of wine!!!

Miami81 · 12/04/2017 16:55

Mulder
Good luck with not testing!! It is all such a pain isn't it.
If symptom spotting was a sport I think I would be the champ. Literally sitting here thinking "ooohhh was that a boob twinge........."