Is it a line? Time for some wine? Yep, it's TTC after miscarriage thread number nine.

[BertieBotts]

Hello ladies

Hope you don't mind my little poem...

Fingers crossed for some sticky beans this time.

(Newbies welcome too!)

keep That all sounds promising, will cross my fingers for you! Ditto bertie.

Anne, thanks for the flowers.

Well well well, as Elton John would say, the btch is back! Never thought I'd be so happy to see her! Having demolished a stack of mint creme oreos, I'm now lacking on the chocolate front but otherwise fine. Sorry halloumi and Miami* and all who are in the same boat. But just think, we'll all be starting a new ttc cycle in a week...yaaaay??? I have told DH he'd better start a moisturising regimen (down there) in preparation lol!

Hi ladies, I'm not really new as I have posted here before, but I'm truly rubbish and don't post regularly- sorry!
Anyway, just had my third consecutive miscarriage. I have one DS nearly 3 who was conceived easily. In the last 9 months I've been trying for number 2 and have A MC at 5 weeks, then MMC at 11.5, and nowMC at 5 again. I've been referred to rmc clinic but won't be seen for a couple of months or so. I've just been taking seven seas conception bits and in the last pregnancy baby aspirin from bfp. I'm also having reflexology. What I'd like to ask is what vitamins or supplements are you taking? Any other alternative therapies... I'm a but needle phobic so don't think acupuncture would be good for me but you never know. What about DH? Thanks in anticipation

Onto my second day late and very clear bfns. Going by my cbfm I ovulated 13/14 days ago. I'm on CD 30 and normally 26-28 day cycles. Only other time I was late was when I had a chemical at New Year, and didn't get bfp til almost 5 days late...could stress earlier in the week be holding af up?

Oh Wibble I am so sorry. I hope you are being cared for and minded irl.
I understand your need to feel like you are doing something, I do feel it is what has helped me cope emotionally after mc 2.
Anyway - not sure of your personal situation but I am 35, DH is 38, I have high bmi but otherwise pretty healthy (don't smoke and control drinking most of the time) and do a bit of exercise (jog/walking at the moment). After second mc I felt like there had to be more I could do. I am trying on the bmi front (-9lbs, but that was mainly Xmas and mc misery eating anyway), but I also bought the book "it starts with the egg", on my kindle.
I found it useful to plan out what I was going to take, I am now taking the books recommended dosages of vit d, vit e, more folic acid, loads of b vits and an antioxidant called ubiquinol (supposed to help with egg quality). It's a three month regime so thought that would be good as we were going to rmc as well. And that worked out ok with the appointments.
I have no idea if any of it is working, I am doing acupuncture as well. My periods are now a lovely bright red with very few clots so I am hoping this is a good sign of good circulation and uterus health. But otherwise crossing my fingers, some days it does feel like I just have very expensive wee now.
Only back ttc from last cycle, been a total head melt.
Take your time, talk to anyone you need to, I just recently started counselling and have found it good to have someone to speak to with no holds barred, iykwim.
A friend of mine did reflexology instead of acupuncture and I know some people have had great success with that (friend now has dc1 after 2.5 yrs ttc).
I also bought Lesley Reagan's book on mc so I could understand the testing a bit better.
Although some of the advice on mn seems more up to date then that book.
All the best. Take care

Thank you Miami. MC 3 was no where near as physically traumatic as number 2 but psychologically it's tough because I just feel like the chances of a second child are slipping through my fingers. Meeting the trigger for referral takes it from bad luck to something wrong in my mind, which worries me. I want to read and be well prepared, but so much of the stuff around miscarriage seems unproven it's so hard to know where to start. Neither of us smoke and are pretty moderate with alcohol. I am a bit overweight but BMI about 28, so could be worse. I will have a look at the book. What about your DP? Mine is lovely but doesn't really understand. He has willingly cut alcohol, and intermittently taken a multivitamin but looked like I'd shot him when I said he would be expected at rmc and might need to given a semen sample. I get it might not be the most appealing thing for him, but considering what I've been through he needs to step up!

Mini me- I never got a bfp before 14 DPO despite what you often read here so still a chance I'd say😀

Thanks wobble wobble - I'll keep the hopes up. I'm never ever late, If anything I'd be early with stress or if my cycle changes. I had usual af pains yesterday but they're gone today. Time will tell I guess.

Welcome wibble. So sorry to hear about your losses. I'm sadly also in the 3 MC club. My 3rd was due to a chromosomal problem but the first 2 we'll never know. It was a chromosomal problem that shouldn't happen more than once. I've also read it starts with an egg and now take vit D and ubiquinol. It is an interesting book but I took a lot of it with a pinch of salt. I guess it would be fair to say I chose some of the changes that were easy for me take. I couldn't be bothered to change all my tupperware! I hope your clinic appointment gives you some helpful answers.

So ladies, I have a confession to make. I caved and tested early, something I vowed never to do, but I was literally driving myself nuts. There was possibly the squintiest squinted ever after the 3 mins. I looked again when I got out of the shower and there was a stronger line but I'm not sure wherever to believe that. So in short, it didn't help and I don't feel any the wiser!

Wibble
My DH thinks that as I AM getting pregnant there couldn't possibly be anything wrong with him. I had a shit fit and he now takes his wellman multivit like a good boy. I basically was like 'we don't know there is anything wrong with me either you asshole, just take the tablets', I had to explain to him that whilst his swimmers seem to be doing the job, if there are problems with the quality that might not manifest straight away!!
At the rmc they barely glanced at him, they took blood from me and have booked me for a scan (I may have a heart shaped uterus). They said that if we have another one that is tested and found to be chromosonally abnormal, then they would check him too......

Fingers crossed keepon.
Yeah the Tupperware thing is one that I have embraced, I never liked the fact that the plastic goes a bit off colour, or knobbly after being in the dishwasher. And I really need everything I own to be able to go in the dishwasher!! Got some Pyrex dishes with lids and am happy out with those.

Keepon do you just poas or do you pee in a pot? If I do decide to test I normally keep the pee pot until I am certain of the result (so I can do a second test if necessary) just with the ic's though.
I hope it is a line. Try and forget about it today if you can and test again in the morning??

I peed in a pot but I only had one test. Need to pop to the shop later and get one for tomorrow.

I did think about getting some of those Pyrex ones but my packed lunch would really weigh my handbag down in one of those!

Was it a frer? I think I am going to stick to those in the future. Very clear answers I think. I hope you have an ok day.

Just an asda own brand but can detect hcg levels of 15. I think it is going to be a long day! Am off out for dinner and then to see Laura Marling with DH tonight so hopefully that'll be a good distraction.

I am going to bury the test in the bin so that I'm not tempted to keep looking at it!

Thanks Miami. I hope you have a good day too.

Keep us posted keepinrunning85. Am I right in thinking you are currently under investigation at the RMC?! How long since you last miscarriage? If you don't mind me asking. I'm in the same boat as in 3 miscarriages and currently going through the testing but as it's a 12 week wait for results which may or may not find something we've decided to carry on trying. Currently in TWW but not feeling anything. X

Morning all, keepon, sending tentative congratulations and keeping fx for a stronger bfp very soon! Hope the gig was good.

Miami, I totally know what you mean about tupperware, but I don't know what the solution to bringing food to work is? We've made a massive effort the last 6 odd months to have healthy lunches at work and not buy crap. It's mostly veggie curries and chillis or salads with cheese or falafel or something. I'm not crazy about the weird marks the pots get but not sure what else I'd use.

Welcome Wibble, I'm so sorry for your losses

I don't have any children yet but we're in exactly the same position wrt losses, how odd. MC 5 weeks in August 16, MMC 12 weeks November 16, MC 5 weeks February this year. As I had another early loss many years ago which I put on my booking in paperwork I was referred to the RMC after the MMC and had started treatment for my last one, but the early HCG tests showed it didn't ever get off the ground and I started bleeding at 5 weeks on the dot.

My RMC is a fortnightly clinic and I've been twice, once in early June where, like Miami, they ran a load of bloods and took a medical history. DH and I both really wanted him to be there, I had pretty epic stress and anxiety about the whole thing as we got test results of the tissue from the surgery I had for the MMC (all was clear), and didn't know what to expect. He already has children so no known issues with him, but that might be something they double check down the line.

My 2nd appointment was when I went to get the blood test results for me, and I had a bfp that morning so it was full steam ahead rather than much discussion about tests. I'm back there next week so might be a more calm and a chance to discuss other options as I've obviously now had another loss.

I take a pregnancy vitamin and extra vitamin D, I also have B12 injections as that's a long standing deficiency, not related to ttc.

The miscarriage association has a leaflet on the tests you can expect from a RMC, I'll post a link later if I can find it again. It's good to rule out anything you know isn't an issue. And write a list of any questions and thoughts you have as they come up, I found that helpful.

I was having reflexology when I was pregnant last autumn and keeping thinking I'll start that again. I do bits of yoga at home and a lot of people find that really helpful for stress levels and general wellbeing. It's probably not going to get you to conceive on its own but can be part of a healthy lifestyle.

You're in good kind understanding company here, talking is so helpful. This lot have literally kept me sane over the past several months.

Sorry for everyone's losses- it is a stressful place to be.

Miami- your "shitfit" made me laugh out loud!

The reflexologist I see was going on about some vitamins being more"bioavailable" than others.... she particular suggested Solgar.... but a quick look online wasn't very reassuring. Might try well man for DH.

I think I'll also look into ubiquinol for me.

Anne strange we're in the same boat. Thanks for the miscarriage association suggestion. I'll have a look at their website.

Nicola I went about things in a bit of a round about way. Essentially I badgered my GP into doing the main recurrent MC bloods for me. I then managed to get them to refer me to fertility clinic, basically because I knew I had a bicornate uterus and the GP I saw had a friend with one who had needed IVF. The fertility clinic then did a 3D ultrasound to assess that further. So when I had my 3rd MC the only thing left to do was the genetic testing on the pregnancy tissue. This showed there was a whole extra set of chromosomes. It isn't an inherited problem and shouldn't happen again so DH and I haven't had any testing on ourselves. We basically were told it was just bad luck and to go away, keep trying and hope for the best next time. I found that quite hard at the time. So we haven't had another appointment but my experience is quite different to others.

Thanks @keeponrunning85 and I hope that if this is your BFP things turn out ok this time. The only thing we hadn't had done is any chromosomes testing on any of the pregnancies, I've been told this can only be done if we go on to miscarry a 4th time, I'm really hoping that's not the case. We shall see what these tests results come back with. I've had a few blood tests already as after the second I got referred to Tommys but nothing was found and from the third they decided I needed a more testing and was referred to the local RMC - just feel like 12 weeks is such a long time when they might just say they haven't found anything and to go off any try again.

Good luck keepon! I am still bleeding and it's getting heavier so I think I'm out :( not full on AF yet but very confusing.

Hi all, been super busy the last few weeks so haven't posted much... 5 dpo and going crazy :( no change in CM no symptoms (even though it's too early for any) although my temperature is rising a few points of a degree everyday so fx

Tenerife! Can't wait.

Hey Crazy, fx for you x

Hello everyone, Hope you're all well. Been off MN for a couple of weeks as DH was away so crazy busy. This thread is no longer on my "I'm on", so it's a bit of a place mark.

Sorry about the BFNs. In terms of update, I don't really know where i ask ou terms of my cycle. I have a thermometer and some OPKs but to be honest I am sick of them and needed some time off. Also couldn't do anything when DH was away anyway. Was very liberating not monitoring everything. As soon as AF comes, I will of course be back on it again.

I need to speak to DH about setting a date when if we don't get a BPF, we try IVF. I can't handle if it's any later than the end of the year. Will have the chat next week, or it goes ok....

Oh no AF reckons I'm not due AF until Monday or Tuesday. So there's still some hope!

Good luck Crazy, that sounds like a good sign, too early to call though as always.

swimchick how long have you been trying now?