SQUARE ONE TO GRADUATES! Come on ladies we're huntin' BFPs!

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I get twitchy at the end lol! So next rollover thread. Roll call?

Yes we found out that we are having a little boy... he is very wriggly at the moment.

Peregrine dh and I haven't started Dtd yet and already cd 10. Feeling vulnerable and unattractive and verbal abuse by a pupil yesterday didn't help. At least it's the last day of term??

Also feeling pretty low if I'm the cause of our woe. Need to wait for the blood order comes through the post and then need to wait about three weeks for cd 1-3. No day 21 ordered, so things are gonna move slow!

Kate, I'm sorry you've had this issue come up, but in another way I'm delighted that actually you may just have a diagnosis, and in the scheme of things, I think simple to address?? My friend had cysts on her ovaries, took just over a year to conceive her daughter, and following that birth they conceived their son first month of trying!! I hope things don't move too slowly to sort out. Horrible that you've suffered abuse from a student but yay to the holidays!!
DuRez, a little boy!!! How lovely, I think you have a daughter already?? You must be chuffed.
Peregrane boo to misbehaving DH's!! I think the pressure of it all gets to them more than we know, and rather than talking they shut off.

CD6 today, had my consultation with the miscarriage specialist yesterday. He's confident I don't have a fertility issue, but more likely a problem with maintaining pregnancies. He suggested my first pregnancy (with DS) could have triggered an immune response to subsequent pregnancies. I'm sure this happened with my big sister, she had 4 consecutive miscarriages after her son. I've had 2 (that I know of) and although that could be mega bad luck, didn't want to experience another to discover whether that was the case or not. He sent me for, pretty much, a full screening... everything from thyroid to sticky blood to natural killer cells. They took about 20 tubes of blood! I get the results at my follow up appointment in 2 weeks.
Dilemma: he told me not to try for pregnancy in the meantime until my bloods are back so we know what we're working with. I ovulate next week, I'm going to really struggle to resist trying!! Think my instinct is saying follow his advice, if I miraculously fell and then miscarried again, I'd be set back way further than if I just paused for a month. BUT I'm only CD5 so to wait for next cycle will seem like foreveeeeeer! What would you guys do??

How's you Jam?
Footy think of you x

20 tubes of blood! [faints] I hope you treated yourself to an ice cream after that :)

I don't remember how many cycles you've been trying for, but a priori if you'd only be missing one cycle, I would be inclined to follow the doctor's advice. As you say you'd lose more time (and there would be more heartache) if the specialist's hunch is correct. Can they do something if what you have is indeed an immune response?

I know I was impressed with myself for not passing out after that!! I treated myself to an iced coffee, cheese scones and huge chocolate eclair! 😂
We've been trying since December 2015, and had x2 miscarriages within that time, so I feel torn as to whether I've just been unlucky or something more sinister is going on. I think I because of my sister's experience I inclined to think the latter.
Yes he absolutely has treatments for everything he has tested for. Sounds like steroids of some description if immune related; it would just be a case of getting the balance of drugs right.
In the meantime he has asked me to take vitamin D3, omega 3, along with my multi vitamin, and also said I should go back on the low dose (75mg) aspirin. He is happy for me to continue on the ubiquinol & high dose folic acid.

Hi girls how are you doing? Xx

@Tee4me @physicskate how are you both?
@Nimisha are you still around?

Hi @Jamon,
All good here. Bit of a weird month for me, been instructed not to 'try' until my test results are back end of next week (ovulation will have long gone) Found that hard to get my head around at first, but at peace with it now. CD10 and we have been DTD with protection, you'd think we'd give ourselves a break hey?!
How are you getting on? x

That must be frustrating tee but I think you're doing the right thing. That's great you're getting such detailed tests done. It's so painful waiting this long I really feel your pain.

Not much news here, this is my second cycle of clomid then I don't have any more tablets. We DTD three times in FW - I've seen many people come and go with BFPs and less sex so I don't think it's anything we're doing. I had a scan on the clomid and she said everything looks good.

I contacted the UK fertility network for some support as I've been struggling so much. I met with a lovely woman and had a good chat about it all which helped.

To be honest I'm just on countdown to IVF now as I don't believe we can conceive naturally, which is really sad.

One of DH friends text him to say he and his wife were expecting their first. He seemed pretty knocked back by it, which is the first time I've seen him react like that. We've also got a fertility counselling appointment coming up which I'm hoping will help us to come to terms with all this.

Hi ladies,

I'm so sorry to see you all struggling at times but really pleased that there are plans in place and tests happening for you all.

Just wanted to (hopefully) give you all some hope. A close friend of mine has struggled for years with infertility on both sides her + her partner. They had a boy through IVF after 5 years and have been trying for one more. After 4 miscarriages they decided enough was enough they were grateful for their one - they have conceived naturally! 8 years after noon even a sniff of pregnancy via the natural route!

Timings aside I was hoping it might give a little inspiration that sometimes even against all odds the bfps appear, so please don't give up hope yours are all out there waiting for you when you least expect it I'm sure xxx

Where are you in the 2ww Jam? I'm sorry the agony is ongoing for you. Have you been following Izzy Judd at all? She has released a lovely book about miscarriage and IVF. I read it in about 2 straight sittings. Highlights in my mind just how many women go through this struggle one way or another. Most importantly we must remember that they get there in the end. Her perspective on IVF is really lovely; it truly is a magical thing. Do you know when the ball will start rolling on that for you?
Thank you for that account Kiki, it's my favourite thing to hear success stories like that 😊 x

Thanks Kiki

Tee I'm around 5 DPO I think but to be honest I'm not really thinking about it. I try and plan stuff when I know my periods coming to help the heartache but otherwise I have no feelings about the TWW.

I'll try that Izzy Judd book, thanks xx

Cheers Kiki for thinking of us still...

I think it's just so hard because we were always sold the message: have sex and you will get pregnant. But the reality is that every journey is just so different.

Im on my holidays for this week. Had the recommendation again recently to go on hols and relax - it'll happen. Hmm.

Told my mum about polycystic ovaries and she said she had em too. Then a week later she said she didn't and just didn't want me feeling it's my fault. My mum is a fucking weird asshole. Then she was telling me about loads of people I know with either pco or pcos which means she's been spreading it far and wide... great.

Not had orders through for bloods or next appointment or anything, so will chase up when I'm back from Cornwall. It's fab here btw!!! Highly recommended staycation!!!!

Oh Kate that is a bit weird of your mum to say that. I hope she hasn't been speaking to other people. I'm sure my mum will have mentioned it to a few others, even though I asked her not to. Hmmm. I'm not sure how much detail to give them about IVF as I don't want them going through the TWW with me!

Cornwall sounds lovely, I love a staycation. I've got this week off too, been having a lovely time with DH going to exhibitions and out for lunch, went to top golf this morning and had a long lunch in the pub planning our sabbatical. Cooking up a seafood linguine tonight to enjoy with a film 😊

Aw I check in from time to time on you guys just to see...

Kate I have PCOS although I didn't have any cysts just didn't ovulate - well twice a year hardly.productive when ttc. Always here if you want to chat, took me a while to get used to the idea that I was the one with a fertility issue and had to take so many meds but it really doesn't matter how you get that bfp xxx

My mum is insane. Hence why I moved 7000 miles away... our relationship works a bit better this way...

Kiki not sure I have pcos yet... though seems I might have some symptoms?? I think my long cycles are throwing out immature eggs, hence the chemicals? Not sure if clomid helps with that, or just not ovulating?? I am sure I will have questions if that's the diagnosis!!
Took isoflavins this cycle (lots and lots) and might raise clomid next appointment if they don't next appointment.

Hopefully my blood work order will be home by the time we get back. Very frustrated with my gp brushing me off for the last 6 months as it seems 6 months wasted.

Frustrated by the people who fall easily... a bit low.

Jam that is so great that ivf requires counselling. I'm sorry you and mr jam are suffering. I think it's such an individual process that hearing others' can make you put pressure/ feel anxious??

Hi all,

sorry I just abandoned this thread, I just got a bit disillusioned with it all. I had decided to give up TTC and have my coil put back in but that niggly feeling that I'm not done won't go away. So we are not trying but not preventing.

I gave my opk sticks away. I tend to recognize FW as my libido goes up, and I get sore nips on ov day so I am not completely ignorant of my cycle.

I'm CD2. I have no more HPTs so no more testing. My cycles are very regular now. AF is next due a few days before my all inclusive holiday where I plan to drink a lot of wine so I will test the day before I fly if I am late but I am not hopeful. The stats say it will happen eventually, I'll be 40 in a few years.

Nice to see familiar names but sorry that you are not all on the grads list.

Ah Nim I've thought about you a lot and how you might be getting on. It's a fairly quiet thread these days as I think we're all a bit disillusioned too 😞
I have results from a miscarriage specialist back next Thursday, so hoping he has answers. He suspects my pregnancy with DS triggered an immune response to subsequent pregnancies. We're on a break from trying this month until results are back, which freaked me out at first, but actually been nice to not have any pressure. I still opk'd because I wanted to be sure I ovulated by the time I saw the specialist again. Got my peak reading today.
Hope the relaxed approach works for you x

Hi ladies, I'm still here.. reading through all your latest stories. Always thinking of you.
As some of you know Dh and I are separated now so no ttc my end. Still very tough.. but another difficult journey to get through. We have only started talking the last few days been 7/8weeks. He's on courses and counselling sessions, but taking each day as it comes. Just me and the boys for now. I'm still holding on to hope and haven't given up on him but at the same time I'm getting on with my life.

So sorry you all are having a difficult time with ttc. Glad you all have good support from one another and have got the ball rolling with further tests. Will continue to check in on you all. Really miss being part of the daily ttc journey and I miss you all. Sending you lots of love and hugs. Xx

Any news on your bloods Kate?

Hi nim sorry no luck yet for you either. I hope the very relaxed approach works for you and you get there

Hope your managing being fertile and not trying tee i know I would struggle with that

Hello dear footy good to see you and I'm wishing you happiness however things turn out xx

Just back from a week in cornwall. Very relaxing... to find I still haven't been sent the orders for bloods, sa, or info about next appointment which is meant to be in the next 4-5 weeks!! I suspect ov day is in a couple days (currently cd 18) so I've got time before day 1-3, but still annoyed as well need the sa result before the next appointment and the timing for that is going to be tricky as dh needs to get it there within an hour and we live about 40 mins away!! So Monday first thing need to chase up. Not a good start!!

I hope fw flies tee and you put it behind you. It does seem sensible, hopefully just the once!!

Where are you with things jam? Any more tests? Have you been given any sort of ivf timeline?

Nim I've sort of given up Clark selby tracking anything. Worried I'm not properly ovulating though with my crappy cystic ovaries. So many people say 'give up' and then it happens, I don't know what to believe. Quite disillusioned at the moment...

Positive opk. CD 19. Not telling dh as that seems to put the pressure on. Tonight is a dtd night (every other day this cycle). Might try to convince him tomorrow too... but really not expecting anything. Don't think it will happen. Feeling very crampy on both sides? Normally it's only ever the left! How odd? No ewcm...

Oh that's bloody annoying re your clinic Kate hope you can get that sorted tomorrow. Enjoy a good shag tonight and if you're in the mood again tomorrow why not. Fx

As for me - second cycle on clomid is coming to a close. I'm off to a festival with work next weekend so will be nice and distracted when AF comes. IVF starts October but our first appointment is the end of August - I think that's where they go through drug protocols. I can't bloody wait to get started.

How did you get on chasing those tests Kate?
Will you try for a third time lucky if Clomid hasn't worked this month Jam? IVF is very close for you in the whole scheme of things, that's pretty exciting.
I'm looking forward to getting my results on Thursday, and more importantly a plan of action to move forward with. This month is dragging without having FW to break it up. CD17 today, for once I'm willing the timely arrival of AF! We're only holiday from Friday, so that'll be a good distraction for the last leg of my wasted cycle.

Footy lovely to hear from you and hoping everything works out for the best x

Finding the clinic a bit useless tbh... basically they keep saying oh yeah, we'll chase it up tomorrow!

Thursday?? That's so fast! I do hope for your sake that they can find a way to help you.... even if it means something wrong....

I have decided to distract myself by redecorating. Retail therapy.

Went out with a mate this morning and talked a bit about the issues. She suggested counseling so that I can see my pregnant friend (the one who fell about the same time of my last chemical). But honestly, I don't think there's really anything unusual about avoiding her. I think those feelings will disappear once I finally do get pregnant. Then I won't think so much about 'what if.'