#makeithappen TTC through Donor IUI or Donor IVF or just undecided – all welcome!

[kwick]

This thread is for anyone trying to conceive... or thinking about doing so through donor IUI or donor IVF. Nothing TMI - feel free to join, we are a lovely group here to support and help keep the cray-cray away!
Here is the link to the previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2769549-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome-makeithappen-loadsofBFPs
Here is the link to the thread before that: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2688511-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome-makeithappen
Here is the link to the one before that one: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2587046-TTC-through-Donor-IUI-or-Donor-IVF-or-just-undecided-all-welcome
And the one before that!: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1877198-Donor-IUI

And true, what on earth is thanks ??? You just made me laugh

Yeh it kind of rubs it in your face doesn't it. I find these things very hard too. Glad you were able to make your excuses though so u could get home. Be kind to yourself sweetheart x

I don't have that emoji but perhaps it's weighing scales?
I have a I don't see what link this has to pregnancy ??? Bizarre

Watching scream 3 at the mo, can't believe it was 17years ago!!! Neve Campbell is my celebrity twin!! So bored and feeling uneasy tonight!

Sorry about tonight Pez, I think you just have to deal with it however you can. One of my friends told me she was trying the other day and I am pleased for her but I am also jealous because I can't go ahead yet. I'm sure I'd be even worse if I'd just had an attempt that hadn't worked.

I can shed light on that little symbol! It's for us Archers listeners - the pub in Ambridge is called The Bull and that's the pub sign! For the benefit of those hailing from other places, The Archers is a very long running radio show about farming families in English. It was originally designed to educate farmers after WW2 to help increase food production. I was raised on Radio 4 and I have it on a lot at home because there is so much interesting stuff on there, so I often catch the Archers. There are lots of Archers listeners on Mumsnet - we have our own threads

witch thanks for explaining I would never have guessed that hehe

So I'm guessing some of these emoticons are linked to what people watch/listen ? Doctor who?

I wonder if they figured out archers and dr who most popular and tennis, cycling and football most popular sports talked about?

Surely there should be emoticons for OPK, ovulation, eggs, sperm, a calendar, a child boy, a chIld girl and a stressed woman ( I imagine that would be used the most from all the threads I read on mumsnet!) to think of a few off the top of my head!

Hoping. You sound so calm and relaxed about today. I hope I can be next month too as a pma is so important.
Sending virtual hugs to you pez.
I had a pretty lucky evening with my best friend. We were talking about my baby plans and she said "what will you do for work if you have a baby?" I corrected her and said "no,when" and she told me I shouldn't get my hopes up. Can you imagine anyone saying this to a couple trying to conceive. It really upset me. Unfortunately she has from as she was one of the first people I spoke to when looking at adoption and she had lots to say about that too.

*sucky not lucky. Stupid autocorrect

Meant "in an English village", rather than "in English". Although it is of course broadcast in English.

Cherry that really does suck, no one would ever say that to a woman trying with a male partner!

Thank you witch and also for shedding some light on the mysterious emoticon. I actually learnt about the Archers while learning English - it was taught as a cultural fact of some sort.

Cherry, it's always disappointing that we have to deal with these comments just because our situation is not as 'vanilla' as others. When I told one of my friends about my BFN negative yesterday, she said oh well you were not expecting it to work first time, were you? 😐

I know I hate it when people are like don't get your hopes up!! I want to shout IM NOT FEKING STUPID BUT IVE GOT TO BELIEVE IT WILL WORK but equally FULLY aware of what the statics are etc etc & am not expecting it to be first go or easy! And agree they totally wouldn't say it to a couple. 😡
I don't tolerate being patronised or told how to feel very well.
Anywho my lovelys, night night! X

None of us expect BFP first go but it would be bloomin lovely wouldn't it.....doesn't stop heart from breaking each time

Hoping - glad all went well

I listened to music on the way to the clinic and after all my IUIs. I created a playlist of songs that are calm/feel good/make me laugh etc. Reading a book is a good idea though - there just seems to be a need to do something to not be lying there with no diversion whatsoever!

I too felt quite calm and positive in the half hour after my IUIs generally coupled with a feeling of quiet determination!

I have speculum issues too, well in the UK anyway. I actually thought I'd overcome the issue as all four of my IUIs the speculum was fine but then last week the hospital did a speculum exam to check for amniotic fluid and they had trouble opening the speculum and I could barely cope with the pain! My IUI clinic clearly have magic speculums! Goodness knows how I'm going to get a baby out if I can't handle a speculum

This along with the tv scan are what are freaking me out most.... injections BLA whatever! Stuff being shoved up your hoooha ouchie :(
Your muscles will be contracting to push the baby out, sure it'll hurt but different kind of pain

pez I totally get it. Just remember your time will come and then you can ramble on about baby stuff.

pickle MN is not just about TTC!!

My mum is actually listening to the Archers right now!!!

cherry I think you should deck her best friend and all!!!
pez some violence required your end too!!!

shoes I have speculum issues too. I reckon for child birth the following: 1. Drugs, 2. drugs and 3. C-section!!!

Ladies my hair has become even oiler than usual - any tips on shampoos?

Morning all,
Probably just panicking but this thought has been on my mind for over a week now. Could my clinic have messed up when giving me the progesterone pessaries and telling me to start the same night of the IUI?
My temperature is still really high, I have no PMS symptoms and I'm now really worried I started the progesterone too early and that perfect follicle never bursted...
I think they gave me the instructions of embryo transfer, not IUI...

Kwick, i know one of my friends who has really oily hair only uses a special shampoo from the Body Shop and swears it's the only one that has helped. Not sure of the name though

Morning ladies
Thanks for the positivity Shoes Kwik Caution and anyone else who messaged in support around me having to claim ESA benefit. It is indeed helping whilst I can feel my heart bashing me into submission.

This thread is so busy now, so I ll chime in on the speculum issue too
Man that hurt when I had the 2 embryos put back on board, one of which was my lovely Mabel. They had to take the spec out and re insert because it was pinching like hell. I was sweating and had a firm grip of the Nursing assistants hand. The saline solution was odd as well, but it was over quickly and it was all in a good cause. I had to have a c section though because she was so small. Was expecting that to be traumatic but it wasn't. Just what followed was x

I had just written a post-don't know where it went

kwick I use L'Oréal clay shampoo and conditioner which is good and doesn't get build up or feel heavy.superdrug often have on offer
Lol yeh I forget that people in life discuss other things than TCC🙄

Oh pez I don't know whether that's wrong or right but definitely worth discussing with your clinic tomorrow

pez sorry if I add to angst but I always started woth progesterone the evening of the day after IUI. Call your clinic in the morning & get clarity. I am not sure how much of a difference it would make though.

Thanks for the shampoo tip pez

No worries, you only confirmed my fears kwick, everything I'm reading says progesterone shouldn't be taken before ensuring ovulation has occurred as otherwise it can stop it.
I'm really annoyed because not only it could have ruined this cycle but now it is also messing up with the next. I don't even have a luteal phase defect so I don't know why I accepted to take it in the first place. I think I'll say no next time and stick with pineapple, ginger and baby aspirin.
I don't feel this was explained to me at all, basically the nurse just ended me the meds in the reception area and said take them 3 times a day and wear panty liners. Full stop.

No that I know for sure I hadn't ovulated before taking the first pessary but in any case AF is not coming and I feel I should have left my body regulate itself alone as it always does!

Pez how are you feeling today? X

Pez - if the clinic have wrongly timed your progesterone treatment, they ought to refund this cycle.

Do you definitely need progesterone at all? Presumably you were tested for your progesterone levels before you started. Make sure you're only on it if your natural levels are low (its all a question of balance - its not a case of the more progesterone the better).

It makes me cross all the meds that are pushed along with IUI when many women may conceive just as easily without them. If your natural levels of hormones etc. are good, it can't possibly be good to upset the balance by meddling with the levels. The cynic in me can't help but think that its because it makes the clinics more money.

My clinic didn't even suggest meds to me. If your hormones etc. are fine in the first place they only put meds forward as an option after three failed cycles.

I know shoes, this is exactly what I think, I don't know why I said yes to this. It was all done in a rush and they said take it it will help. I'm so cross as I don't think I needed it.
I'm sure they will deny it but I will tell them how unhappy I am. This is potentially £1500+ wasted...

I don't even know what might happen now. I guess if AF doesn't come they'll have to put me on more hormones to start a new cycle and that makes me so angry as I've been so devoted to the whole preparation these past 4 months and my body had been working perfectly fine.

I had accepted the 1st cycle failed but now I'm so confused...can't stop crying

Pez nothing useful to add but just wanted to send a virtual hug. It's horrible to be in a position where you realise retrospectively you don't understand why you were told/given something. Especially when you're left wondering what effect it's had. The instructions for one of my injections conflicted with what the nurse had told me and I was really worried about that. In turned out not to matter but I felt really vulnerable and uncertain in a way I am really not used to feeling.

pez I do think you should discuss with your clinic asap - but as one was has taken progesterone for every treatment I can tell you it should not interfere with your next cycle IF you get a BFN you stop with the meds and about 24 hours later, if not before, AF will turn up. For now I think you need to concentrate on the other TWW action steps and keep up the PMA.
I do not mean to harsh

Thanks for the hug witch. I shouldn't have said yes as it wasn't part of the plan. The nurse who gave me the meds probably thought I'd just had an embryo transfer.
What you said is exactly how I feel. But what is done is done and I need to move forward. I have lost faith in the clinic though and will probably look at another one after I've used my remaining 2 vials (but I'm going to believe it won't come to that )

Thanks for caring caution

Hoping, how are you feeling? Enjoying the 🍍? Your feet are warm? Remember: no hot bath or hot water bottle on the tummy even if the thought of it is so appealing when one is bloated! (which hopefully you're not). And no iced cold water either