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TTC after miscarriage thread #7

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SayItIsntSo1 · 11/12/2016 08:16

Hello,

Starting a new one as we've maxed out the #6 thread.

Hoping MrsY, Brenna, Rose, Legend, Miami, Bertie, Insufficiently and all the others find it!

Let it be our lucky no.7 thread for BFPs Grin

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Miami81 · 12/12/2016 19:35

Eleven - my previous mc it was exactly 33 days from the day that I took the tablets to induce the miscarriage (mine was a Mmc), I passed the sac that day and I think the placenta a couple of days later. From a link that I have seen apparently it is important when all products have passed as it is only when that happens that all the hormones drop properly.
But the ladies at the epu did advise that it can be up to 7 weeks.
I hope that it resolves for you soon.

ElevenBells · 12/12/2016 19:56

Thanks Miami - that's a big help. I'll give it to new year and if still no AF will contact GP

MrsY87 · 12/12/2016 19:58

Flash - sorry to hear you are feeling down, hope your DH is there to give you a big hug and you are taking care of yourself.

I also think I have progesterone, my LP is only 10 /11 days so quite short and I often have spotting before that. Had my progesterone done at 7dpo and it was only 12, but the consultant said I must have mistimed it as my AF started 3 days later, he did however agree to give me a prescription for progesterone to take when I next get a BFP although he stressed that there is no conclusive evidence it works I know a few people who it has worked for so fingers crossed I'll be one of those. Have you had your progesterone tested? Miami that's interesting about egg quality and progesterone, I've also started taking COQ10 so fingers crossed it helps. I'm also reading more and more about diet and it's impact on fertility and mental wellbeing and going to make some changes in the new year.

Olivers - did you test again?

Hi Womble fingers crossed for a negative for you soon.

No experience to share Buddha** but hopefully January will be here quickly for you with all the Christmas and new year celebrations!

Welcome holly like say I've found these lovely ladies really great for giving me the strength to keep going and also I so desperately want at least one more child I'm not ready to give up on that dream yet. Chat away on here whenever you need to, it's hard in RL if your friends haven't been through similar to understand quite how you are feeling.

That's a lovely idea about the ring say hopefully you won't end up with anymore.

Sorry if I've missed anyone but hope everyone else is doing ok. Smile

MrsY87 · 12/12/2016 20:07

Sorry about my essay and the random use of bold!

Eleven- i think can take a while for your cycles to settle down after a mc. Hopefully you don't have to wait too long.

HollyMay84 · 12/12/2016 20:08

Hi Eleven I just looked at my old charts and from the day I took my pills/induced for a late mmc to the first day of af it was 38 days. It was 32 and 41 days after my erpc's. Hope that helps, sorry for your loss hun x

littlepooch · 12/12/2016 20:10

Hello all.

I am back again - keep getting overwhelmed by everything and deciding to step back from mumsnet but I think if I'm honest I need to try and keep posting on here and chatting to you lovely ladies. My due date is looming and I was so desperate to be pregnant by then but it's unlikely now unless it happens this month and I don't think it will as cd17 and I still haven't had a positive opk. Grrrrr.

eleven With all my MCs AF appeared between 4 and 5 weeks after if I recall. The most recent one was a Mmc and I had an ERPC and that took longer to come back, the rest were bang on 4 weeks. I hope you are out of limbo soon, it's so frustrating.

I love the idea of a ring. Lovely idea. I got a charm bracelet and have a charm for each of my lost little ones. I didn't expect to have 3 charms on there but there you go. I also planted a small little tree for each of them too. I planted them in pots so if we ever move, I can take them with me.

Welcome holly. Sorry you are here but you'll find plenty of support here x.

HollyMay84 · 12/12/2016 20:15

Thank you Mrs Everyone has been very helpful and lovely toward me. You're right though, it has been quite a revelation talking to ladies in similar situations. I've been going through this for a long time now and not really been able to get much off my chest about things. I started really low today because its an anniversary of a mmc and I have spoken to quite a few people and I really do feel better for it. Tbh I don't know why I haven't done this sooner! I just hope that I can give as good advice as I've been getting Smile

TheLegendOfBeans · 12/12/2016 21:14

Hello eleven - my miscarriage completed Aug 8 and my first period was Sept 12.

Just had a lovely evening with my chum; she's away to embark upon IVF and she was great about being careful about being sucked into an obsessive testing tailspin.

Just here to throw my toys again about being hacked off about being on this bus and generally having an arsey flump about I SHOULD BE SEVEN MONTHS PREGNANT GODDAMIT.

Rant over. Sorry x

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/12/2016 21:16

Thanks for new thread. We've been ttc 11 months, one early mc in August, next bfp straight away with no af, and lost that with mmc at 12+5 5 weeks ago. Af arrived 4 weeks and a day after erpc.

We've been referred to RMC with first appointment early Jan Buddahbelly so let's swap notes?

I had my mmr jab and have to wait to ttc for at least a month so that takes us to around the time of the appointment. Till then we're sort of waiting. Dtd just for fun has been so nice for closeness, especially after all the crap of the last 6 weeks.

AnneLovesGilbert · 12/12/2016 21:20

Couldn't be more with you on that TheLegendOfBeans, I was meant to be moaning about a sober Xmas and finding something to wear for the work party.

I've just had a nice glass of Chablis and all my normal clothes fit and it all fucking sucks. Neither the wine nor clothes were going anybloodywhere and I bloody loved being pregnant, growing our baby, seeing the excitement in DHs eyes and making plans.

Miami81 · 12/12/2016 21:45

Oh Anne and beans, it is just a heap of crap isn't it.
Anne - since Mmc in April and now this latest one I think I have put on 1.5 stone, so not only do I have no baby to show for it, I also don't fit into any of my fecking clothes and just feel like a blimp. I am a comfort eater and every month when we didn't get a BFP I ate my feelings. All of which of course doesn't help with either getting or keeping a pregnancy.
I think today was the hormone crash for me after the mc, have been in floods of tears since around 5am.

Edenslight · 12/12/2016 22:16

Hi all,

Sorry I have been so quiet, I did try to post an update on the old thread but it was locked and then I got a bit lost looking for the new one Blush

So after all my melodrama, it was of course a UTI prob after all our vigorous efforts not to miss ov!! I saw my fantastic GP today who has filled me with positivity about getting this sorted & moving on so I am going to focus on that & try not to think about whether or not AF will arrive on the same day my sibling's little one is due.

Miami I totally get what you mean about eating your feelings. The day I found out about my mmc I started to eat chocolate by the bucket & after a while felt even worse about everything. Skin, clothes, the lot all looked & felt crap. Still eating tons but about 2 wks ago I just gave up the breakfast croissant and it feels good to just do something positive for me. I don't know how on earth you're supposed to stay positive after 2 losses but maybe a little step that's for you & no one else might just take that bleugh feeling away for you.

You ladies really are all so kind, and so strong. Thanks for letting me in, you saved my sanity in Saturday! Here's to a brighter Christmas for us all Xmas Smile

Miami81 · 12/12/2016 23:00

Glad to hear you are ok Eden.

Buddahbelly · 13/12/2016 07:27

annelovesgilbert sorry youre here too going through this, would love to swap notes, Bit scared of what they'll find but more scared that they find nothing at all and it just keeps happening.

wombletor thanks for the info, glad to know what to expect at the 1st appointment, but i've been told the first appointment is all the tests then you're called back in 8-12 weeks for the results, is that right? Seems an awful long time to wait to find out?

emily86 · 13/12/2016 08:29

Morning all. I was a bit slow on the uptake with the new thread! Thought everyone had gone a bit quiet but found you now. Thanks say.

Welcome to all the new people but I'm very sorry you're here. You'll find lots of lovely support though.

Sorry to those who are struggling, particularly with upcoming due dates etc. Do whatever you need to to get through. Those who have bought jewellery, that sounds lovely. I've been thinking about getting a tattoo for my MCs but don't know if it is a bit extreme? Was going to get some little shallows on my torso, somewhere not visible to the wider world. I guess I'll need 3 now.

I went back to work yesterday. The day went ok, but I was ready to leave at 5. Unfortunately I was on call all evening and overnight (owning up to being a doctor) and ended up back in from half 8 until 10 which wasn't ideal. Overall I think the distraction was good and I have lots of lovely, supportive colleagues, some of whom know about everything.

I know what you mean about feeling fat. I'm the heaviest I've ever been! Think it is a combination of being on holiday in California when I got my BFP, being pregnant for those weeks and general comfort eating. Planning to get back to running after work tonight. This time I stopped when I got the BFP in a forlorn hope it might make a difference. It didn't! I suppose at least it can be crossed off the list of things to blame myself for.

Anyway, sorry for the massive post, but good to find where you were hiding! Or not, I will just being slow!

Miami81 · 13/12/2016 08:43

Hi Emily
Glad you found us. Well done for getting back to work. I am going tomorrow, just feel like I have been hit by a brick wall the last couple of days.
Wow - impressed with the doctoring. In my head I think that must be good because Yiu understand the science behind some of what's going on, but then I wonder whether ignorance is in fact bliss. Big hugs to you, it certainly can't be an easy thing.
I am hoping that the distraction of work helps as well.
We were having a massive chat last night and I think DH wants to wait a couple of months before trying again. I can see his point but it makes me feel all panicky. His point is that we have agreed to make some lifestyle changes and we need to give them a chance to work, but I just see months slipping by where we don't have a BFP. Anyone done this? For how long? It would seem like he is thinking until Feb.
I suppose if we do get into the rmc we would have to take a break for tests anyway?? Any advice/ handholding would be greatly appreciated.

oliversmummy26 · 13/12/2016 09:40

Good morning everyone,

trying to distract myself today from the fact that I should have been having my 12 week scan this morning Sad but at the same time, glad we found out when we did that we'd lost our little one, as to go to the scan appointment all excited and looking forward to seeing a dancing baby, but getting quite the opposite would have been devastating, feeling so sorry for all the ladies who have had to go through that Flowers

Legend I'm with you on feeling pants that you should have been proper pregnant. We were going to be telling people on Boxing Day when we see our families and I just know I'm going to feel crap as we don't have happy news to share Sad

Anne I'm exactly the same with clothes, I'd been looking forward to buying a lovely maternity outfit for Christmas, and now that I have a bigger range of clothes to choose from, I can't seem to find anything I want to wear Angry

Miami I'm a comfort eater too. When we got our bfp I allowed myself to eat almost whatever I fancied, as I'd been dieting on and off all year for our wedding (not too successfully!) but since the bfp I've put on about a stone and unfortunately the bump I have isn't one to be displayed proudly for all to see this christmas...

Mrs I tested again this morning and still showing bfp, though much fainter than last weeks line and took longer to appear. It would be one of those I'd be clutching at straws to take as a positive if I didn't already know I couldn't possibly be pregnant. So there's no way the ewcm I had over the weekend could be fertile as I can't ovulate while hormones still think I'm pregnant, can I?

My DS has his first nativity this evening though, so that's something to look forward to and hopefully will cheer me up...he's a donkey and his lines are, predictably, "eeyore!!" Xmas Grin

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/12/2016 09:50

Absolutely Buddahbelly, good to have people to share with but I'm sorry you're here too. When I had my ERPC (which was actually an MVA, I was awake, still not sure what the difference is though), they took some tissue to test. Haven't had the results back yet and not sure whether to chase the hospital or assume they'll be with the RMC when we get there. Have you had any tests done? Sorry, not completely up on everyone's situations yet.

I know what you mean Miami, our break is imposed by the other things but the feeling of panic about time frames is the same! Do you agree with DH about the lifestyle changes needing time or do you think he also might be feeling a bit fragile after what you've been through and needs a break to deal with that? It was only after the procedure, which was 5 shit days after we had our awful scan experience, that I started wondering how my DH was really doing. I'd asked him throughout if he was alright but I was so wrapped up in the pain and fear and horror and heartbreak of what I was going through that, while I knew he was devastated at the loss of our baby and all of our hopes and dreams at that point, I didn't really think about how awful it must have been for him watching me go through it all.

He made drinks, refilled hot water bottles, held my hand, rubbed my back, took notes at the hospital appointments (medical management failed), handed me vitamins and painkillers and generally looked after me and was amazing. But it wasn't him literally going through it all and when we spoke about it afterwards he said he thought I was going to die. I think I sort of laughed before I realised he meant it! It's fucking awful losing a baby, but it's a different kind of awfulness watching your partner/wife doing it and not being able to do much.

We decided that the worry about a future loss won't get any less with waiting, and if I get pregnant again we'll do our best to travel hopefully. But everyone's different and your DH may be feeling a bit battered, and channelling it into proactive steps about things you can change. I don't know, just thinking aloud.

We've had several chats about we'll do if they tell us to wait specific amounts of time for tests. I've read loads about what they MIGHT do and some of them have to be done 6 or 8 weeks apart, so I guess it makes sense to not be pregnant when they do them. I'm torn, on the one hand I'm desperate to crack on, but on the other, what if I got pregnant again and then we lost it, when if I hadn't we'd have found out why it's happening, and I could have used the weeks of the future lost pregnancy to be taking or something, rather than effectively wasting them on trying to do it all myself again! Not sure that makes any sense.

When I spoke to the woman at the clinic I asked what they advise about trying or waiting when you have an appointment booked with them and she said it's entirely up to you and how you feel - so certainly not a blanket ban! - but that if it happens they have to be your first phone call so they can see you immediately and try and give you stuff to help. Not sure what if they haven't seen you before or done any tests, but she said it happens quite frequently.

I'm holding your hand x

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/12/2016 09:53

oliversmummy26 I know what you mean. My sister is coming over from abroad for xmas, she booked it so she could see my bump before the baby was here in May when she was planning to come back to meet it Sad

It'll still be amazing to see her but the whole thing hurts my heart.

Can you get blind drunk on Boxing Day and just sit in a cosy corner somewhere? Wink

Enjoy the nativity! Sure it'll be super cute.

Miami81 · 13/12/2016 10:23

Anne
I do agree with him about it, it does just make me a bit anxious is all. Not massive things just both want to be healthier. Stronger for the next time if you know what I mean.
Yeah I know what you mean about him needing a chance to recover as well. I think he has been finding it really tough not being able to do anything to help me practically. He has just had to listen to me telling him how much pain I am in and how messed up my head is.
Thanks for the hand holding all. We will see if we hear from rmc in the new year, which will help us decide how long we will wait.

oliversmummy26 · 13/12/2016 11:04

Anne most of my Christmas plans involve getting blind drunk and sitting in a cosy corner somewhere...so on it Xmas Smile I don't think there's much chance of me ovulating much before New Year to be honest either, with the way things are going, so hopefully won't have that interminable 2ww going on over Christmas where I'm too scared to drink/eat what I want, "just incase" we get a BFP...

It feels very strange POAS and hoping for a BFN...

Miami81 · 13/12/2016 11:08

Oliversmum it is very weird when you poas in order to confirm that your pregnancy is gone. I cried hysterically when mine came up negative even though I was very anxious that it did. Anyway good luck.
I will be pissed for most of Christmas. I am refusing to drive when we visit relatives and everything as I was gonna be doing all the driving. No way now. And also all the rellys be thinking I am preggers if I do drive at least that gets the message across to them really swiftly.

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/12/2016 11:10

Yep, I felt the same. Wa sure I was going to bawl when it happened but I was actually just relieved. Left it about a week after the procedure and it was bfn. They did an internal scan in theatre to check all was clear and it was so I thought it would be negative. Hope you get your bfn soon. (feels weird to say it too!) But it's part of the crappy process Flowers

emily86 · 13/12/2016 12:25

I too shall also be getting blind drunk at Christmas. Last year I had a dry one, and New Year, because I was preggers but we all know how that ended.

Miami I know what you mean about the desperate feeling of needing to try again. I had that after both of my previous miscarriages and we started trying again as soon as I had a negative test. This time I feel so tired of it all and also that if I was to get pregnant again before the rmc appointment I'd just be setting myself up to fail. It'll probably be good to have some head space from it for a few weeks. We're not going to do anything to prevent it but as I've never fallen pregnant quickly (8 cycles, then 4, then 10) I wouldn't be expecting another bfp anytime soon anyway.

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/12/2016 12:39

After the link on the previous thread I read Deanne's sperm meets egg plan and would definitely try that. Of my recent early mc and later mmc it took 8 cycles then 1, but there's no reason to believe it'll happen that quickly again.

I'm not that keen to opk having never done it but it's worth a go as we don't really want to wait any longer than we have to.

emily, the setting yourself up to fail is a much better way of explaining what I was waffling on about up there. I'm stuck between that, and the feeling that we may just have been unlucky, and that the two losses happened at completely different stages of pregnancy so there may be no reason. What was your experience?