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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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It'll never happen, and even if it does, something will go wrong. Hut of Doom part deux

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duchesse · 19/01/2007 19:43

There wasn't any more room for moaning with all those grinny smilies's eyes following me around the room.

Suspected (my own self-diagnosis) perimenopause, anyone?

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rahrah1 · 21/01/2007 21:26

I got mild cramping...think I might be getting you know!! I AM SO FED UP! I'm on CD32 so makes sense..

I think I'm going to stamp my feet and cry!

maisiemog · 22/01/2007 01:47

Hi everyone. I just wanted to pop in here to moan about this TTC lark.
I'm so rubbish. I've been trying to do that stupid temperature taking thing, and it's terrible. I never remember to take my temp in the morning, and take it at different times, which mean it's all over the place and totally unreliable.
You would think that if I wanted to conceive I would remember, but it's not really panning out.
The CM thing isn't working out either, I think I may have ovulated early (days ago) and I can't tell one type of CM from another, so that's rubbish too.
I work nights and it's kind of tricky to BD at the 'right' time.
And I feel really tense because I read that you have have an orgasm when you have sex to increase your odds of conceiving, but I don't think orgasms respond to tremendous pressure based on a temperature chart and cm spotting.
Just feel tense about the whole thing.
Wah!
Sorry, there is too much information about TTC, it's an overload for me.
Oh and the pills and potions!
My head hurts.
Not feeling very hopeful.

maisiemog · 22/01/2007 01:51

Oh and can I have a pint? Is that OK?
I couldn't find a chair, so I am going to sit on an old mattress in the corner.

londonlottie · 22/01/2007 08:52

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rahrah1 · 22/01/2007 16:32

I have had enough!! My AF arrived this morning. We did everything right...but still no joy. Normal bloody people have a shag and bobs your uncle.

Not bloody me... and when I do get pregnant its a bloody disaster!

So thanks a lot...I have to wait years to conceive and then you take it away...Is anything going to go right for us? I don't think I can cope with much more... I have also got period pain and a sharp pain in my left hand side.. the same pain I had in pregnancy...but apparently they can't find what's wrong... so suffer some more!!

Sorry for my rant... but is the hut of doom... thought I would spread some of my doom around!

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duchesse · 22/01/2007 17:29

Well I gor bloody period pain for the first two weeks of last cycle, such as I have NEVER had before- radiating down the legs and everything. I got sick of and went to the doctor, but she told me to see if it went away, whilst putting me down for a full blood count, liver and kidney function tests and thyroid levels. My thyroid levels seem to be abnormal, cos I had to go back today for a repeat thyroid test. Results Thursday. Crossing fingers that a) it is something easily treated and b) is what's causing the infertility.

Whole cycle then went pear-shaped.

I'm not going to say anything positive to you, Rahrah. This is the Hut after all. Just that mother nature has her nasty little ways...

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SquillosMum · 22/01/2007 20:39

Knock, Knock - can I come into the hut of doom?

We're TTC No2 by donor insemination (same way as we got DS) and although we have some sperm waiting for us at the clinic, my AF came a little later than normal this month so the likely days for treatment happen to be exactly when I have to be away for 2 days with work. Why oh why did it come late this time??? Just because I wanted it to come on time, probably. Glad there's somewhere for a moan, just hope that next month we can TTC & hope it works first time as don't know if we'll be able to get any more donor sperm - national shortage due to change in the law.

It's great to have somewhere to vent these feelings!

Thanks

rahrah1 · 23/01/2007 12:37

Hi all,

welcome SquillosMum.

Just a quick update on my appointment to the clinic today;

Consultant thinks I'm perfectly healthy and thinks It may take a little longer for us to conceive, but can't see any reason why we will not conceive in the next 6-18months. He had previously tested me for all my hormone levels and they are very good. I have a regular cycle and have conceived naturally before. He does not want to use Clomid at this stage, as he think it could cause more problems than solving them, as PCO is only borderline. He has retaken all the tests, including the clotting tests..to just double check everything. If they all come back ok.. he will not want to see my for 6 months. He think it is unlikely why we will find out why our last pregnancy ended at 24 weeks and that the likely scenario is that it was an implantation issue, that had implications on the placenta and vessels.

I just hope all of this is true...I just can't believe we have had the 0.1% chance of having such a one off issue.. Sounds crazy but suppose it has to happen to someone, it's much better than have an underlying issue...but just so scared in case they are wrong and we have got an underlying problem.. (hope that makes sense).. So not so much in the place of doom today..as really it was all positive news...just crap that we had to be so unlucky!

Cryptonomicon · 23/01/2007 13:11

Can I enter the hut please? I have been lurking here for a few weeks and I am now in desperate need of virtual spliffs and vodka.

We have been TTC since Feb 06 (although periods didn't start again until June 06) so really only 6 months properly. I was so convinced that this was the month - my longest cycle so far has been 28 days and I am CD 30 today but AF has just arrived. Especially cruel as it usually starts overnight so I though I was ok for another day this morning.

I need to find a way to get my feelings under control about this - it makes me so depressed. My best friend at work is about 14 weeks gone (she fell on the 2nd month of trying) and it is so so difficult to be at work with her, especially on days like today.

I am never far from tears these days, the stupidest things can set me off and I hate myself for it.

Looks like the hut is the right place for me at the moment

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duchesse · 23/01/2007 15:22

Welcome to the Hut, Cryptonomicon and Squilosmum. You'll get no chirpy advice on here, no stories about someone else to whom the same thing happened and it worked out all right for them, just virtual drink, drugs and commiserations. Sit down and put your feet up on this wrecked pouffe.

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eclipse · 23/01/2007 15:37

rahrah1, glad to hear you're not so gloomy today and that you've had some good news. Whenever I pop out of the hut to restock with vodka and to conduct some shady negotiations with my dealer, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Cryptonomicon and SquillosMum, get maisiemog to budge up a bit on the mattress. There's plenty of room for more and don't worry about the damp patch, we think it's just beer.
And I know we're not being nice chirpy in here, but I think describing one of our more comatose members as a 'wrecked pouffe' is taking things a bit far, duchesse.

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duchesse · 23/01/2007 15:39

Oh, don't worry, Eclipse, it's only Cocoa* on the gin, and she only understands Squeak.

[Not grin]

*the Guinea pig

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rahrah1 · 23/01/2007 16:24

Thanks eclipse X

Now that consultant said I need to relax... so that's SEX, DRUGS and loads of DRINK for me then please! Might as well have a bit of fun!

greedyforbabies · 23/01/2007 17:03

eclipse - pack it in! you made me laugh and i KNOW thats not allowed in here!

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duchesse · 23/01/2007 17:12

Oh, we're allowed to laugh, Greedy, just not jollying along. If that makes sense.

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Impatience · 23/01/2007 20:54

SqillosMum: just wanted to say we fell foul of the changed anonymity laws. It stinks. All this talk of what's best for the child, then it seems to come down to deciding that it's better for a child to never be conceived than being born without knowing it's biological father. What tosh! (In my self-focused and pissed off opinion.) I hope you get enough sperm to get the job done.

ammylovesbabies · 23/01/2007 21:13

Can I come in?

I've been BDing so much I'm sore and P'd off and DP says hes dried up (What???!!!!) and I think it's prob all been in vain cos AF isn't due for another 2 weeks and got cramps already. And this is my last month to try cos getting married in December and DD is lonly and I want to cry when I see her playing alone. Not as bad as some of you but feel lousy all the same.

Did I hear someone toking on a spliff?

greedyforbabies · 23/01/2007 21:14

what are you doing this month perve? i know you said you weren't temping, have you stuck to that? have you squirted yet?
im on day 46 btw! did i beat you!!!???

ammylovesbabies · 23/01/2007 21:16

Hiya Greedy!!

Thanks for your reply bout your job! I admire you doing that- I have a morbid fear of bones clicking!

maisiemog · 23/01/2007 23:56

Poo! This is a smelly old mattress, think I'll just stand. (Tries not to stand on anyone)
Thanks Lottie, I reckon I might go over to that TYCOF (is that right?) and get put straight.
I've got a temperature chart on fertility friend, which looks like the side of mount fuji.

Littlefish · 24/01/2007 06:55

My blaaaaardy mother. She phoned me last night to say "we're planning to go on holiday in September or October, can you think of any reason why we shouldn't go". What an unbelievably insensitive question, and how mind blowingly stupid. She KNOWS why we can't conceive. She KNOWS how much we want to conceive and she KNOWS what our chances are.

Why not take every opportunity to remind me of our failure.

And no, I'm not reading too much into her question. I said to her "do you mean, am I pregnant" and she said, "yes, I was just wondering". AAAAAAAAAAARGH

Littlefish · 24/01/2007 06:57

Masiemog - you may not want to sit on the smelly old mattress, but I think I'll just take root here, with an old dog blanket over my head and drink tequila shots mixed with Jack Daniels. Straw anyone...?

SquillosMum · 24/01/2007 13:14

Impatience: I feel exactly the same about the anonimity stuff. If this planned DI is successful we'll have one child who can find out who the biological father is and one who can't - how fair is that on the child??? Shame there wasn't enough from the first donor to go for No. 2 as well, but that's just our sort of luck!

SquillosMum · 24/01/2007 13:19

Littlefish: Just had something similar from my Mum. They came to visit last weekend and brought some lovely unpasteurised camembert (sp?) cheese from France. So my mum says - Are you OK to eat this? My reply - yes, I'm not pregnant yet....
Like yours she knows we're trying, and also knows our situation waiting for donor sperm to become available etc. I just don't feel the need to share every single detail of our TTC attempts with her - I certainly wouldn't share the details if all me & DH had to do was jump into bed together to get pregnant!

readyandwaiting · 24/01/2007 13:24

a ha at last I found some where to vent.... sil pg and commented how lucky they were to get pg quickly and that it hadn't taken as long as its taking us... yep that made me feel good, especially when I know its my body that won't work properly - no periods and now irregular so whole charting thing just isn't worth doing....

dh suggested 2 litres of cider and shagging down an alley/back of nightclub/in car one evening... why not got nice home/good job/eat well/not over weight and having sex every two days and that doesn't seem to work.... it sucks

so where are those drinks then?

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