TTC #1 Thread 15. Don't. Trust. The. Boobs. ( . )( . )

[StarkyTheDirewolf]

Hugh enjoys ISW and his love affair with Doreen. He watches out for skittle tits and weepyitis. Mrs Arseholey Fucknut (Af) shows up when you least want her but brings wine and soft cheese as a consolation prize.

We don't have rules as such but expect to be talked down from the ledge with kind and well meaning but firm words if you get too hysterical. But most importantly don't convince yourself you're pregnant in the tww That is paramount! It messes with your head and makes you crazy crazier

We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts. We want a fanny full of determined Doreen, not unicorn farts and gnome tears with extra sparkle. We've been going a while now so the novelty has somewhat worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area.

Post your stats and add your dates. A more lovely, supportive group of ladies you couldn't wish to meet. We've got a few grads sticking around I won't leave and no question is too daft. We have opk experts, cervical mucus management teams and symptom spotters extraudinaire!

Just to let you know I've name changed from blueladybird to purpleladybird to hopefully avoid any confusion with bluebird. It's still me though, honest.

bluebird l feel the same on the self esteem front. I'm not that concerned about our general fertility at the moment (ok I am just fairly worried rather than extremely worried) because at the moment we're simply not having enough sex.

Still no AF. Just done another HPT- BFN 19 days after clear blue 'peak'.

Wahhh. That's amazing news sky congrats. What bloody lovely timing too.

On EWCM I have literally not seen the stuff since I was about 16! I'm 32. Been reading some interesting fertility awareness stuff about sensing it though. Essentially, if you feel wet, you're fertile. Also a number of folk seem to recommend checking your tissue and pants rather than routing around in there. Which seemed counterintuitive to me but I'm gonna try it.

I'm approaching the end of ISW. Think I've OV'd (positive opk) but waiting for temp to confirm. My first month temping though and I'm pretty slap dash with that old Mercury pipe so not convinced my results are useful.

Congrats Sky, what fab news!

Oh bollocks. Think my period is coming.... 16 day cycle!! Normally 32. Opks said i had a surge five days ago.

Post mc sucks!

Age: 31
Cycle 5
Cd 26

Been a lurker for a little while now, hope you ladies don't mind me joining in? I'm right at the end of the dreaded tww, my best friend's just popped and I'm going crazy!

Bluebird and Purpleladybird, I'm glad it's not just me with a partner with a low libido, my OH is taking antianxiety/antidepressant medication and he is finding it very hard to muster up the urge to dtd. It is balls, particularly when he then has a minor meltdown about wanting a bablet and how it's all his fault I'm not getting upduffed. Crazy making. Also, while I'm on this insane rant, spoke to a (not very close) friend the other day who said 'I know I'm not supposed to ask, but I'm going to' and then, after I grudgingly told her, asked me if I'd thought about taking folic acid and if I knew when my fertile days are?!! She and her husband had become magically pregnant without even trying, but still felt the need to provide me with this glittering advice. I was very impressed with myself for not strangling her right then and there.

Anyway, good luck everyone, fight the good fight and all that!

Snarky you've got the patience of a saint! Do you know when your fertile days are...?

THEY ARE BURNED ONTO MY BRAIN

Thanks 5tardusty, the lack of awareness floored me. Btw, how might one embolden people's profile names on this here new fangled message board thing? Asking for a friend you understand...

Haha of course! To make it bold you type the name with an * before and after the word. It's helpful for skimming through and seeing if anyone has commented to you directly

Welcome snarky welcome all new newbies!

Anyone else absolutely BOILING!? There's a massive thunderstorm in progress but me and the doggles have all been struggling with the heat this week! Dh has been an absolute delight what with being a giant muscley man, it's been a treat sleeping next to him!

How are we all?

Welcome snarky. I'll let you and bluebird know how I get on with operation OH-in-the-TTC-driving seat.

Still no AF so just done another 'early response' test - BFN on cd 36 - 20 dpo - 8 days of sore boobs - which means I am definitely absolutely under no circumstances, pregnant. So where's my bloody AF? I just want it to hurry the hell up, ideally before the weekend and every day which does by is another day closer to when OH is on nights so might put out another month of DTD in the FW. Groan.

Is that a normal cycle length purpleladybird? If it's 20 dpo I think you're still in with a chance. Some people don't have a positive on a hpt for a couple of weeks.

And do let me know how dh in the drivers seat goes. My dh would never do it though. Tbh I don't think he's really bothered about having kids either way and is only going along with it now for me. Which means he doesn't even have that motivation to drive him. I think he's most driven by wanting to avoid a SA which I keep pestering him to go do...and he will be if this cycle fails as well.

Thanks bluebird Since I've been paying any attention (so around a year) cycles have been 30 or 37 days. So cd35 and no AF isn't unusual at all, but because I peaked on cd16 I was expecting a shorter cycle and boobs have been hurting for over a week now and it's normally a max of a week between boobs and AF. But what do we say about trusting boobs...

Now I've done a HPT with FMu I am just going to wait it out until at least the weekend.

ha snarky and 5tar I proper LOL'd at that. Folic acid you say? Fascinating...

purple good luck on the wait out and Fx. Could you have Ov'd late? Limbo is a pretty frustrating place to hang out in. Find a vice for a friend and keep us updated here!

I'm feeling like a bit of a Debbie downer today. First month temping, whopping positive opk, but no real temp rise to speak of. Literally 0.1 of a Celsius. Anyone with more experience of temping got advice?
I'm clinging to hope of being slow bbt riser but the neon sign points to anovulatory....

Welcome Snarky! Ha, that is hilarious... oooh really? you mean it's worth figuring out when my fertile days are? Jeez!!

Boiling here, v impressive thunder and lightning storm and torrential rain last night! Quite cool watching it from bed in the dark with curtains and windows open!

Didn't manage to dtd last night. Poor DH in a fairly miserable way. Hoping for miraculous recovery by tonight??!

Hope you're not in limbo for too much longer purple...

I'm also interested to hear how DH in driving seat goes. Reckon mine would quite enjoy being in charge of that! Trying not to be really pointed about fw at the moment though to avoid any performance anxiety. Although my frustration with him being under the weather might be making it obvious!

I appear to have follicular phase MN avoidance I'm here with AF pain on cd 21. Meh.

Many thanks for the top tip 5tar now I can at least pretend I'm not a total noob

Hank, Marmite I know right, it's been a total revelation -smacks self in the forehead-

Got my fx for you purple this weird Schrodinger stage is the worst, so many opportunities to obsess like a lunatic. I'm finding this heat is throwing a major curveball in my symptom spotting madness. I've had dry mouth for the last 3 day- pg or just hot?! Weird puffy nips - pg or hot?! Headaches.... Etc etc etc.

Congrats SkyLucy! What wonderful timing. :) and hi to Snarky too! I'm amazed at your self-control, I think I would have let some of my crazy show if somebody showed the same lack of awareness around me.

Sorry I've not been on much in the last couple of weeks - I've been poking my head in now and then to see if there have been any BFPs, but I've been purposely trying to chill a little and not post so much to get my head out of permanent baby crazy. Had a holiday last week which was lovely and for the first time in a while, I have no clue what DPO I am, assuming I O'd at all! It's a weird sensation - I haven't peed on a single stick this month and stopped taking my temps from the first day of my last AF - the result being that I feel far more chilled, but I don't think that anything more will come of it. I've just been using cervical fluid as a prompt when to DTD - which we managed a lot of from Wednesday last week, but typically, the day I figured was probably going to be O day, DH had problems again.

I'm getting a tad paranoid now. This is becoming a pattern. DH can manage to DTD fine a few days before O day, but the day before it (or the actual day) he's either ill, or tired, not in the mood, loses concentration ... resulting in me not being able to DTD during what is probably the most crucial time window. Happened again yesterday morning and then this morning (when I wanted to catch what I think could be the last chance this month) he's too tired. And yet at other times of the month (when I want to sleep or something) he's cuddled up behind me in bed nudging me to put me in the mood! So frustrating. It's like - when I want it, he doesn't, and vice versa - I think it's partially performance anxiety and I don't think it helps him to know it's my fertile window, but that tends to be when I jump him and I don't think I can just hide it.

Oh well. If it doesn't take this month I'm going to the GP for advice anyway. I'm also thinking of investing in a few medicine syringes and see if I can't just get the job done myself! Who'd have thought it would be so difficult to get the hubby to jump me! >_

Kava i had this problem during the forst months of ttc when i used to tell dh that i am ovulating
Last month (5th cycle) i didnt mention anything at all about ttc and we managed to dtd wvery day for 4 days before ovulation i dont really think we caught it as i dont have any symptoms but we definately did what we could

I need some advice regarding progesterone tests i went privetaly for general blood test and i thought to test my progesterone as well since i will be visiting my gynecologist on friday. It came back as 39 . Does anyone know if that is ok levels i know it can prefuct if you ovulated and the chances of impaltation if conception occured ? I am 8dpo cd21

Kava - do you mean in a turkey baster kind of way? I had consiter it. I'm sorry you and others are having problems with the timing but I am also relieved to know it isn't just me.

Exactly purple, only I couldn't use a turkey baster! Just the idea that I'd be shoving something up me that I'd normally use while cooking Christmas dinner would put me right off!

I think there's a lot that we assume about TTC that when we come to do it, we realise we'd gotten totally wrong or underestimated the sheer stress involved. You're definitely not alone. I don't think you ever are!

Sorry nicky, I have no clue about progesterone levels. Give me a month or two after seeing the GP and I have no doubt it'll be something I'll be an unexpected expert on, but right now I'm not of much use!

Yes a syringe does sound more appealing than a turkey baster!

How long do GPs typical ask you to wait before arranging an appointment? And does it depend on your age?

Just checking in again -congratulations sky that's fantastic!

kava you've pretty much described my exact issue with DH! We missed dtd in the 3 days before ov for that reason.

I'm googled foods to each to lengthen a short luteal cycle so am now shovelling extra vitamins down and eating lots of kale and walnuts and other equally appetising things! Had a few days of cramps and nausea but equally can find other explanations for them each time so not getting hopes up.

Going to try and stick to not testing until AF at least 4 days late. ..let's see if I manage that lol!

I'm on cycle 6 of TTC, purple, and I'm 37. The usual advice I've heard is that GPs will see you after 6 months of TTC if you're over 35, or they advise you to keep trying for a year before you see them if you're under 35, so if I'm not upduffed in a couple of weeks time I will be calling my GP. No idea how long it'll take before I get an appointment but at least I'll feel like I'm doing something ... I'm worried I have a blocked tube or something.

Good luck with that wait, Wingingit! If you can make it you're a stronger lady than I've ever proven to be >_

Welcome snarky!!!
Hmmm I may have made a similar comment to a work colleague who is trying to get pregnant - ie "let me know if you want any tips on things to do" - damn I hope I did not come across as sanctimonious

And yet again after reading posts I feel lucky to have donor magic potion... even if it does mean I am all alone and do not get joy of chukka chukka

Still no fricking AF