TTC after miscarriage thread #4

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Hello ladies. I noticed the last thread filled up, seemed to happen all of a sudden! Hoping you find your way here (prepares for tumbleweed)

For reference here's thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2593041-TTC-after-miscarriage-lucky-thread-number-3

All those we are trying to conceive a child after miscarriage are welcome here, whether it's your first or you already have DC

Good luck ladies. Let's have some BFPs, we've earned it

I have this thermometer... (See pic) just type in bbt thermometer in Amazon. Pretty cheap and so far think it's accurate. It measures to 0.01

bertie that's a good aim!

Oh that's not a bad price at all! Perhaps internet is the way to go then.

What are SIDs Bertie?

Medical name for cot death. There is an increased chance of cot death if either parent smokes and particularly if you smoke in the house and then it gets really risky if you co-sleep. I co-slept with DS and would probably do so again because it's so helpful for breastfeeding. I know people usually give up smoking or think about cutting down/giving up when TTC so I was wondering if people had thoughts about vaping. I won't be doing it in pregnancy, I do occasionally have a go on DH's but I don't really get nicotine cravings unless I'm very drunk. He sometimes does it in bed which I don't mind but I don't know if it's a risk for babies? He vapes with nicotine so if he was going to stop he'd have to cut down on that to begin with, which to be fair, he is already doing, I just can't remember if he said he planned to stop completely.

Ah right. I think there is a BBC documentary coming up, or has already been one, on the truth about e-cigarettes. I think it concluded that they are pretty safe. But maybe check it out if you haven't already?

My fella vapes and I must admit I have worried about the chemicals in his system and whether they could have passed to me. But the research does seem to suggest they are pretty safe.

Tired tonight. xx

Hi all hope you're all doing ok.

Sorry cheeky hope you're ok.

Kate have my fingers crossed for you still. Are you bleeding at all?

Miami I looked at your chart, I think you o'd on cd24. Basically when temping, you look at the previous 6 days temp before the rise to establish ovulation. Seeing as the following temps are all higher than the previous 6 days cd24 looks most probable. Plus you had a pre o dip the day before too and from af to that day your temps gradually got lower. Your cover line would be about 36.33. My temps are generally around 36.4 up to 36.7 but it varies. I use fertility friend because it does all the working out for me, don't have to keep guessing.

Af is pretty good for me at the min, I'm actually enjoying being on, sounds weird but I kind of feel a sense of relief. I have been replaced this last cycle hoping to carry it on this time too. No opk's just taking my temp.

Replaced? Lol that was meant to say relaxed but it could be replaced with a new me not a stressing POAS addict!

Aww Cheeky. that is a lovely thought abut the babies dragging you to heaven. My Dad and my oldest sister both loved babies and were family orientated. Both are now dead and I can't help feeling like my babies have gone to them to keep them company and will make them very happy. I'd still like to keep a couple for myself though.

Miami, it doesn't look like you have ovulated yet to me.

That is a beautiful thought cheeky. I am not religious but need to believe there is some sense in all this loss and that is a beautiful idea, religious or not. You do sound truly remarkable. Hope you find comfort v soon.

Good luck for tomorrow Lucky!

And thanks to you all for your thoughts and words. No bleeding yet, just lots of very eggy wind. Sorry my darling husband!! My scan is on Friday 3rd, the day we see Bruce Springsteen (MY HERO). Hopefully Bruce will prove to be my angel.

Hope you are all having lovely evenings.

xx

Amy and brenna thanks for looking at chart and letting me know what you think. It sounds weird and maybe just wishful thinking but I thought I had ov pain on cd25, I suppose I will have to wait and see. Feeling v crampy now so think it could be AF now. Feel relieved if it is, really not liking sense of no control.
Good tip on fertility friend for charting Amy.

Kate we are seeing Bruce in Dublin on Friday this week. Love him. Can't wait. I hope it is good news for you on that day.

Sounds like you're managing to stay incredibly strong cheeky. I'm not religious but I like that yours assigns such significance to your lost babies.

Kate glad to hear your tentatively good news, fingers crossed for you

Brenna laughed at your dh's ham injury! Happy anniversary, hope you enjoyed the day beyond the ham accident!

CD30 BFN here. Really sharp pain in right side of lower abdomen starting last night. Intermittent rather than constant but feels like I'm being repeatedly stabbed. Will test again on Friday

Thank you. We had a lovely evening out for dinner. DH work his whole kilt outfit like he had for the wedding.

First appointment at the RMC today. Wibble.

So ladies I have tentatively good news - I'm pregnant again with a clear pink line this morning. My instinctive response is to be delighted and happy, even though I've had 2 MC in the last 7 months and logically know how precarious my BFP is, my heart can't help getting excited. Wish me luck, I need it!

I'm not so sure insufficiently, I'm not eating or sleeping well and physically feel flat. Mentally I'm trying to keep strong.

But onwards and upwards. I keep thinking about the next time and panicking at the thought of getting the BFP and then will I phone docs straight away or go to nurse for bloods straight away or phone EPU and book the early scan etc etc etc just being silly! I had swapped my days off work for the booking and scan appt so that's a bit of a sore point. Too much early planning!

Congrats Lucky

Cheeky It can and will happen. My best friend had a mc and went on to have a healthy baby and is now pregnant again (did sting how easily she got pregnant second time when they weren't even trying - i thought I would be before her or at the same time as her with her second) Another friend who lost twins has just had a baby too - lots more examples to show it can happen....totally do understand the feeling of 'it never will' though!

Good luck Brenna! Hope it all goes well. Will you let us know??

CONGRATS Lucky I had a feeling this was your month!! Tentative steps but definitely time for a bit of celebration! So pleased for you.

Cheeky it is petrifying but it will happen, it has to happen. Medical science is so amazing these days that virtually anyone can have a baby with the right help. But you just need to focus on getting better first and getting mentally strong.

I am off to see my consultant at lunch to see if he can make sense of my scan report. In all honesty, I think this is over, and I actually want this to resolve soon rather than waiting and waiting for weeks for the inevitable to happen. I feel slightly done with all this. But hoping to find some positivity from somewhere!

xx

Amazing news congrats lucky!!!!

Good luck at the consultant kate and you too brenna... Fingers x kate for good news.

cheeky I know so so many people who have had MC and then gone on to have a successful pregnancy. I keep telling myself if it happened to them it can happen for us! Early MC just seem to be so common and I try to tell myself everything happens for a reason.

insufficiently sorry for your bfn, I got one too, but I'm testing to early because I'm obsessed!!! Maybe the stabbing was implantation and you ov later than you thought?? Keeping everything x for you.

I've been cramping now on and off for 9 days since ov. I've never had this before but can't help but think I'm maybe in for a horrendous af! Boobs are still heavy as ever and temps still up.

Good luck Brenna. Hopefully this is a big step towards getting some answers and finding a solution

Good luck seeing your consultant Kate, I hope they're able to offer you some peace of mind and a firm answer on what is going on to end this limbo for you

Congratulations Lucky that is fantastic news! Good luck!

I really do believe your time will come Cheeky. That belief for myself and all of us is the thing that keeps me going with this whole process.

Lucky congratulations!! Sorry I missed your post. I had been typing mine for ages in between stuff. Really hope it's it for you :)

Thanks for the support ladies. Yes need to get better first and take it one day at a time I think. Mind is just racing.

Brenna happy late anniversary. Xxx

Thanks jpeg. Not sure if the pain is implantation. I had sharp pain in the days before bfp last time but that was more in the centre rather than the side. Could have ovulated later, I had ewcm intermittently from cd13 to cd22

Congratulations Lucky! X

Congratulations Lucky!!!

Congratulations Lucky. Everything crossed for you here.

The appointment went well, I think. It is too soon after my last miscarriage to do any blood tests as my consulatant wants a minimum of 6 weeks, preferably 2 months after the last pregnancy to make sure any changes in the blood as a result of a pregnancy are not obscuring anything. That is ok as I am not expecting things to go too quickly. She has told us a list of the tests they will do as first and second line tests, all of them quite reasonable from what I have read. Should nothing turn up she says she has treated empirically with aspirin and/or progesterone just on the off chance they make a difference, even the the big study that finished last year showed no evidence of progesterone making a difference, she says she will try it in case we are one of a few that it does work for and it is masked in the statistics. She did mention uterine NK cells. Emphasised that she wasn't allowed to refer on the NHS but gave us information about it and told us we were welcome to self refer. So, no quick results but I feel like she listened and is open to trying things if there aren't any obvious issues.

We will get a letter outlining what we talked about but basically in the first instance I will get tested for clotting ability and mutations in Factor V Leiden and pro-thrombin. Also anti-phospholipid syndrome and anti-cardiolipin antibody. They will test my thyroid. If that comes up with nothing they will test both of us for chromosomal abnormalities. Any pregnancy before we get results will be treated with at least aspirin, possibly progesterone too and they will start scanning at 6-7 weeks.

And there are options for going private for other tests such as the uNK cells in coventry if we come up with nothing and are still miscarrying.