TTC after miscarriage - new thread

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I just spotted that the old thread was now closed to new messages so thought I'd start another. The old thread for reference: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2457787-TTC-1-after-miscarriage-looking-for-some-buddies

Hi IC, thanks for the welcome. I'm 36 so managed to get seen at RMC after 2 MC. Had all the tests except for genetics done, that's mainly why I'm keen to have EPRC so they can run tests. Nothing that can explain my MCs has been found so far. I was about to be referred for infertility when I got my BFP and I'm also fearful of the IVF route. Hope your UTI clears up in time.

Hi. Sorry I've been awol, just caught up on all the posts.

I was meant to ov yesterday/today. Got a +ve opk at 9am yesterday then a -ve at 3pm and 9pm. My temp went down today by .5 degrees rather than up! Really hope it's because of my cold or I'm ovulating later today or tomorrow. Can't face that I haven't ov. Feel like I have man flu and feeling a bit sorry for myself. Need to woman up!

Hope everyone is ok. Will there ever be a point when I don't feel sad seeing a scan photo or newborn?

How are all those with bfps doing?

Jo for what it's worth, I temped last month and mine dipped just before ovulating, which would tie in with getting a positive OPK today, then ovulating tomorrow? The test of that theory would be what your temps do next, if you ovulate you should see a rise in temps over the next few days so that if you're charting it on a graph it looks like a spike.

I'm currently boycotting facebook because last time I was on it I saw an ex had just had a baby, and I couldn't help thinking about how I would have been half way through my pregnancy by now if all had gone well. I hope my time will come, and clicked "like" on the baby picture, but now I've done that I don't want to distress myself further by scrolling through a newsfeed of other baby pics and pregnancy announcements. I also know nobody announces MC on facebook, but it makes it seem like everyone else gets pregnant on demand. To be fair, Facebook generally gives a very positively skewed version of what everyone else's life is like, just seems to particularly get to me when it's about pregnancy and babies because I really want one too ..

Thanks Lucky usually it's pretty constant around 97.1 varying by .2 at most then with ov up to 97.8s and stays up until pregnant or drops with AF. I haven't had such a low temperature before.

I've spent a lot less time on fb recently.

I think we are allowed to have a wobble with news like that IC I hope you will soon be joining her, doing it together would be amazing.

Hugs cheeky. Spoil yourselves, it will help.

Jo I always get a dip before I ovulate.

I interviewed to keep my job today. I have it for another 5 years . 1 less thing to worry about.

My temperature rise this month was only because I had a lurgy. This is the first month when I haven't ovulated. Hopefully it is a 1 off.

Glad to have a fellow LP defect sufferer Mrsunsure! (Or, you know, not. You know what I mean ) That's the main reason I'm off to see the endocrinologist, because the LPD plus cystic acne plus quite a few hypothyroid symptoms means I think there is something bigger going on. Fingers cross I can get to the bottom of it. Progesterone supplements are been shown to have little effect, best to try and look for a cause rather than treat the symptoms as far as I'm concerned!

IC that's so tough. I have 'unfollowed' a few people on FB who announced pregnancies recently. I just find it too hard to deal with all the updates. I open FB ever day with my heart in my throat though as so many of our friends have little ones coming up to their second birthday and I know that's a popular time to have another. The thought of not having one as some of our friends have their second is tough.

Thankfully I don't use FB any more as I would find a constant stream of baby pictures hard to deal with. SiL told me and DP in person as we knew she'd been having IVF and she knows about the mc so it's a kind of mutual sensitivity thing - we didn't want to announce a pregnancy to her all of a sudden because of her difficulties and she told us early because of the mc so in a way it is good to have that understanding and support. Still gave me a brief emotional wobble though. But looking on the bright side if I do get pregnant soon we'll have similar aged cousins who can play with each other and extra babies to cuddle!

CD 12 here. Been a very busy week as it was our school production so ive been at work late most nights. I'm getting ewcm but not holding out any hope at all this month because I'm also still spotting on and off so I can't see it happening. Glad to have ov signs though. The 2ww will be easy because I won't have high expectations. Hope everyone else is ok.

I can't wait for AF to finish although I'm not sure about the active trying part. It feels so strange. I've been very grumpy with DH. Picking on him and generally been a bit moody. I just feel my hormones are everywhere and my first AF is a sensitive time for me but ofcourse men don't really get it since it's not their bodies going through it

I'm another one that doesn't do FB. I find it too much of a time waste and can see how it's easy to get obsessed. So I just keep away. I don't think I could bear announcements.

So I was just thinking about this short luteal phase. I've never tracked ovulation but when I got pregnant the dates they gave me at early scan suggested that I got a BFP at 5 weeks which I thought was impossible. I had two scans and both times, I was about a week out from my own calculations. What does short luteal phase actually mean?

Morning all! I'm finding this first tww business very trying; far more than I ever did before. Mainly because of all the symptoms, which could so easily be pmt too: breast pain, twinges, tiredness, headaches, mild nausea, occasional dizziness. (Or lentils and my new low sugar diet )

I think this first cycle of trying post mc feels different, because before I had no idea what being pg felt like, and now I do I'm comparing, and part of me is so hopeful and another part thinks maybe this is my new lead up to AF and that my body has just changed. And since some peoples' cycles do change, my doing early tests is probably pointless but I'm doing them anyway. All negative so far of course, and I may well only be 9 dpo at cd26 if I caught the start of the surge on my opk and - aargh, it's driving me mad!

Back later to catch up properly.

Morning all, just caught up on the thread.
It's been 33 days since I started to bleed with my mc now.
I had a bit of pink spotting last night and though af might be coming then nothing this morning just a lot of cramping again. Wish my body would make its mind up what it's doing, could understand the cramps if I was actually bleeding but I'm not!

I'm really grumpy too normally I don't get any pmt or anything until af hits and don't have any other symptoms.

Hope you're all doing ok and have a nice weekend. My last shift at work today then have next week off! Planning to clear out some of my DD's toys and clothes that are no good and take them out shopping as its half term. I might be able to fit in a day to relax as well

Mrsunsure I found someone I wanted to see and just made an appointment. NHS GP wouldn't refer me so I'm having to go private, but am now on DH's health insurance so hopefully won't have to pay. I have a lot of symptoms of being hypothyroid (even though they're mild and non-specific, things like dry skin, terrible memory, very tired in the mornings no matter how much sleep I've had etc, plus a family history) and short luteal phase can also fall into that category. My GP also said all my bloods are normal and that it's also completely normal for a 29 year old woman to have very bad cystic acne and lactate even though she's never been pregnant (I hadn't, at that point) and that none of these things were connected! Glad you don't have other issues too, but I'm sceptical when GPs just say'normal' at blood test results, I like to know the numbers. Also, there have been studies that have shown 750mg of vitamin C daily helps the body produce more of its own progesterone, and it also increased the eye of ovulation when combined with clomid, so another thing worth trying maybe? I take 1000mg daily (500mg before heading off for work, 500m before bed) and while I'm not sure what it's done to my LP (got pregnant the first month using it and I was not long back on it last cycle) it has cleared my acne up entirely. I know it's the vit c as if I don't take it for a few days I start having breakouts. So, it's doing something and I'm crossing fingers for a better LP this cycle!

Bonxie I know exactly when you mean about now being able to compare it to something. Although if I have the same symptoms for another BFP as I did for my MMC and chemical I'll probably freak out that it's going to happen again! Although now I know for sure I get that one symptom when I am pregnant I just count myself out entirely when I don't have it.

Amy I think grumpiness is completely normal! At least, that's what I tell DH every month sounds like you have a nice week planned!

Also Bonxie, keeping fingers crossed for you. We could do with another BFP in here!

Bonxie I can really relate to what you're experiencing, now I have a few months data on Ovia I compare back and forth constantly in an effort to get some way to differentiate my PMT from my early pregnancy signs - they seem very similar for me! Other than (maybe) early pregnancy symptoms start earlier and I get just about everything going, and with PMT it's more like a pick and mix of the same symptoms, but not all of them. I'm on CD24 and based on ovulating earlier this cycle I'm expecting AF any time from Wednesday next week, and will test then if no bleeding. I've bought a pack of Superdrug early detection ones which are sensitive to a lower level of HCG than the others in the hope I'll get an accurate answer sooner.

Is anyone here using any fertility herbs as well as vitamins to help with conception? I'm considering trying red clover tea to help with implantation, since my periods since MC have had few "proper period" days in them than I used to get (now 3 based on last 2 cycles, used to be 4) I'm wondering if my womb lining is too thin for implantation and red clover's meant to help with that. My other worry is that I could have a blocked fallopian tube (no real evidence for this), and the tea's also said to help treat that.

I've also come across a tincture called Fertility XX and would consider that if no luck in the next 3 months, but at £27 it's too much for me to fork out for yet when I don't even know if this cycle's been a success yet.

Hello all hope it's okay that I join? I had an early ectopic pregnancy in July last year. I was managed expectantly as I was only around 5 weeks and my HCG levels dropped on their own.

I got pregnant again at the end of January. I was concerned from the start as the tests were so faint. I had HCG levels taken the day after I found out because of my previous ectopic and they were only 42. They did initially rise but by the time I was 5 weeks they were falling one day and then rising again the next. I was treated as possibly having another ectopic but after I began bleeding my levels fell very quickly so they are now saying it was possibly a miscarriage.

I know we are lucky as we already have a dd but I so desperately want another so we are trying again but very fearful of what a positive test might bring

Sorry that was long

Elderberries I'm more grumpy than normal at the min lol! Keep snapping without realising what I've done feel sorry for my poor DH

Mrsunsure yep it is totally rubbish. Spotting has stopped again but I'm getting loads of weird cm not brown, really really clear and loads of it.

Somethingfromnothing welcome and sorry for your losses. You'll find lots of support here. Like you I'm also scared about what a positive will bring, also lucky to have two DD but it doesn't stop you wanting to have another baby and addition to your family.

Lucky I'm only taking conception vitamins at the minute but I'm also drinking green tea with mango and lychee. Apparently good for balancing your body, helps relieve stress and helps you to sleep better.

Last shift at work before my weeks annual leave was stressful to say the least. One of my colleagues seemed to be in a bit of a daydream state for the whole shift and had to pick up his work as well as my own. A few months ago his wife also suffered a terrible miscarriage, knocked him and her for six. He is very kind and understanding towards my situation. I wonder if he is feeling sad about his loss too. He doesn't understand much English but enough, don't want to upset him by asking.
I do feel men kind of get put to one side when their DW/DP are having such a terrible time. My DH ignores his own feelings but then it catches up with him and he doesn't sleep well because of it. So as its Valentine's Day tomorrow and he has work in the morning, I'm going to treat my DH to a surprise dinner of his favourite home made hunters chicken, I've been a bought some nice smelly candles and a film we can watch in bed. Seeing as we've only DTD once since my mc I think I need to make an effort to make him feel needed. He's been really good over the last few weeks it's the least I can do.

Hi everyone! Welcome to the newbies and very sorry you are here at the same time. DH came home today having had my engagement ring fixed for me as a non - valentines present. It was really sweet and it's nice to be wearing it again. It's a sentimental ring anyway as it was made using a diamond from a ring my grandmother gave me and it's really old. My grandma had it as a cluster but dh used the solitaire from the middle to make me a engagement ring so it's quite unusual and I love it. I guess dtd pretty much has to happen now!

Thanks mrsunsure!

Bonxie I know what you mean. I think the whole journey will be quite different.. Just got to take each moment at a time.

Amy- hope the pmt symptoms pass and your AF comes quickly so you can look forward. I had terrible PMT too and felt generally angry and irritable. It was defo worse than usual.

Smells of elderberries- I'm like you. I like to know the numbers and never take the 'normal' blood results for gospel. The normal range is so skewed anyway, just because it's maybe a common range for most people, doesn't make it right! I take vitamin c too and I think it helps adrenal fatigue also so it's a good supplement all around. We don't store it and it passes out through urine and the amount gained from
Diet is probably tiny. I read a book about thyroid and it was really interesting in that's it's so difficult to test for and get a diagnosis. I can't remember the name of the book but you could take iodine as that helps regulate thyroid and our diets don't contain iodine at all anymore.

Happy valentines everyone! Let's take the time to appreciate our dp's and make them feel loved it is my 5th wedding anniversary today but due to other things we haven't had much chance to celebrate but had a bit of time this afternoon so just went to Pizza Hut for a leisurely lunch. Tomorrow we are attending two weddings (dh's cousins and my best friends younger sister) both are just as important so will try get to both.

Today marks the second time I have had my tummy patted and asked if I was pregnant again. The diet started 4 days ago. This is one way to make sure I stick to it. I am off to my bed to cry and try and ignore my rumbly tummy.

That is so rude Brenna. I don't know where people get the nerve. Even if you think it you don't say it. Hope you are okay.

I had people asking if it was pregnant after having major abdominal surgery a few years ago. The scar is across my stomach from one end to the other and above my belly. It healed with a cheloid scar so the area is quite raised. People often asked if I was pregnant and I found it soooo rude. I would never ask someone unless I was a 100% sure and that's only if the bump was very prominent and they were towards the end. What makes people think they can ask?? The cancer diagnosis /surgery was so traumatic that it used to get me very upset when people asked. It's been a while since I've been asked but every so often someone will. Last time it was at the airport , they said they needed to know. I can't do anything about the shape of my tummy as its all scar tissue. But since it's above my belly button I think it's odd to assume it's pregnancy related.

Sorry for my rant. Just thought I'd share Brenna. If anyone does that again I would be firm and tell them that it's really insensitive to assume, especially when you don't know the story behind it.