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Pom Poms, Placards and Picket Lines. The Berries are putting up the barricades and will not be crossed! A delightful bunch of 30 something Ladybros TTC #1.

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happylass · 16/12/2015 19:07

The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy!

Current Ladybros:

Smidge 39, TTC since Jan '13. Unexplained. Some high NK cell immune treatment. IVF#1 Short protocol Jul'14 BFN; IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb'15 both Long protocol BFNs; Natural FET Jun'15 - Another BFN. Trying to work out what to do next.



Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 3 failed ICSI cycles, 1 failed FET and 1 abandoned cycle due to poor response. Awaiting next and final cycle with own eggs hopefully Feb/March time. HATE THIS SHIT!!



Beaky 35, ttc 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1 long protocol ivf cancelled, 2 short protocol IVF both BFN, very low amh/poor responder etc. 3rd IVF in January.



Tigerdog, 35, ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF #1 chemical pregnancy. Currently redoing tests in preparation for IVF #2.



barkingtreefrog 36, ttc since Dec 2011. clomid bfp summer 2013 then mc @7 weeks, iui bfp summer 2014 then mc @6 weeks. Factor V leiden thrombophilia diagnosed at the repeat mc clinic. IUI bfn Jan 2015, IVF bfn April/May 2015. FET bfn August 2015, remaining frozen embryo perished. Private tests showed high nk cells activity and th1/th2 as well as mthrfr gene. Started downregging for long protocol ivf in Oct 15 plus two intralipid drips, and got pg. Third mc @ 6.4 weeks despite heparin, intralipids, metafolin and prednisolone. Last Ivf attempt starting February 2016 then on to adoption. 



Kuma - 40. TTC 2.9 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15, cancelled cycle June 15. Last try Jan 16. 



Lucieloos, 36, Low AMH & sperm motility. ICSI#1, April 2015, Czech Republic, BFN. Icsi#2, cancelled before EC. Icsi#3 & 4, Embryo Banking. 3 blasts in freezer. Icsi#5 in Czech in Jan. NHS cycle in Feb / March.




Sesame, 40, ttc 2 years with no dp, multiple failed IVFs, 4 ETs, 1 bfp followed by mc, poor responder with v low AMH, but still looking for the golden egg.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. still in limbo. 



Funkymonk 33. Ttc since October 2012. Mc June 2013, Mmc dec 2013, mc June 2014. Factor v Leiden thrombophilia. Abandoned IVF Jan 2015 due to thin lining. Abandoned FET Aug 2015 due to thin lining. 4 embies on ice. Currently experimenting with different cycles in an attempt to thicken lining.

Clem, 39, ttc since 2013. diagnosed with anovulation by nhs so on a course of clomid. no male factor issues. all other test results have come back okay inc. ovarian test reserves. currently being referred back to nhs for single funded cycle.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. Starting IVF in January.



Antonia79 36, ttc #1 since 2009, adhesions made for sticky insides & one tube removed, confirmed NHS IVF route Sept 15, TTC naturally again as recommended by doctor until IVF cycle starts (early - mid 2016) if not conceived by then.



Grin - 35, TTC 3 years, NFI why I can't get pregnant,, 3 X failed clomid attemots, 2 X ICSI failed fertilisations, 1 x IVF BFN. Doing another cycle in Mar 2016 and thinking of embryo donation.



The Roll of honour:

Pip - Quite simply the Best In Show.
Lumen - The Legend that is....

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chicken2015 · 26/12/2015 22:24

I have joined mumsnet to join this thread I'm 33 on Tuesday, ttc since Jan 12 months and plan going doctors in jan, haven't had period since 18,due to conteception. but did have little one on 14th Nov, have pains tonight hoping for blood. V down about not getting pregnant. Especially with christmas.

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chicken2015 · 26/12/2015 22:25

Also forgot to mention, I am overweight so need to loose lother , eat due to stress and had v stressful year with job have left that just before Christmas so hoping will b less stressed.

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GrinAndTonic · 27/12/2015 06:39

I just had to come on here and tell you my story!
My DM just asked me if I would ask my DSis to be an egg donor.
My younger sister who I am NC with. My sister who has a history of drug and alcohol abuse. Was a prostitute (im not saying sex worker as she brings down sex workers. She just did it for drugs). Has assaulted me and DM. Has spent time in jail for assault. Has lied and accused me for years about random fake things I supposedly did. Has stolen things from me for over ten years. Oh and she lost custody of her DC's too.
Yet my DM thinks I want her eggs? I'd rather be barren and childless!!!!

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OTheHugeManatee · 27/12/2015 09:26

Welcome Chicken!

Grin In your shoes I'm not sure that's DNA I would want either Confused

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Smidge001 · 27/12/2015 09:36

Oh my word Grin, what a BIZARRE suggestion! Perhaps your mother is hoping your sister will make up for her past or something??

Sorry the butcher disappointed, I love a good ham at Christmas time.

Welcome chicken, pull up a pew. Lots of knowledgable ladies on here.

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lucieloos · 28/12/2015 10:43

Hi everyone hope you've all had a good Xmas.

Grin, wow think I would rather carry on with the IVF.

Chicken, welcome, lots of like minded ladies and plenty of support on here.

Happy, sorry to hear about your saga at the FC. Not very professional of them to write that in the notes. Hope it's all sorted now and you can get started again soon.

Sesame, really hope your appt at the new fc goes well. Really keeping my fingers crossed for you.

To those that asked I'm on my last week of birth control. I start buserelin tomorrow and take my final pill on Thursday and wait for af to arrive. All being well we should be going back out to Czech mid Jan for the next collection. Lots of hurdles to get through before that though so will see what happens.

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clementineclouds · 28/12/2015 14:58

hi everyone, hope you all had a lovely christmas. not sure where my time has gone lately...

manatee congratulations on your bfp...keeping everything crossed for you.

chicken welcome....hope your stay here is short.

grin can't believe you don't want your sister to be an egg donor...having her hold that over your head for the rest of your life, would be lovely to live with....seriously though, its crazy some of the ideas people come up with isn't it...its like "really" Xmas Hmm

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clementineclouds · 28/12/2015 14:59

hi to everyone else. Smile

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beakybeak · 28/12/2015 19:02

Hi berries, hope everyone had a lovely Christmas. Welcome Chicken too.

I've been a total grumpy bitch these last couple of days, I think it's the ivf plus all the other shite. Anyway clinic tomorrow for my baseline and then fx stimming round 3 after that. I am dreading this and wanting to get on with it all at the same time.

Lucie fx for a much better response with this protocol for you.

Sesame have you got your consultation booked with the new clinic now? Hope you've been ok this Christmas.

Nolly when are you starting? Is it around now? Hope you're feeling ok at the moment, I know this must be such a difficult time for you Flowers

Tiger how are you doing? Did you manage ok with seeing the new baby?

Grin wtf!! Some people do not think before they open their mouths eh. Hope you're coping with the inlaws. I've not even got half way through my first assignment so hats off to you!

Smidge how are you? Any solutions to your storage issues yet?

Happy hope you and Mr H are enjoying christmas before the next ivf begins. When do you start?

Manatee how are you feeling?

Clem hope all is good with you too.

Sorry to those I've missed, on phone and cant get very far back!
Wine Cake to those that can have it!

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tigerdog · 28/12/2015 20:13

Hi everyone, hope you've all survived the festive season! We're home now and I'm looking forward to a few days hanging out with Mr T and Tdog.

Welcome chicken, I hope your stay here is short. Do you have a plan for weight loss? MFP is pretty good for calorie counting, I use it whenever I feel like I'm going off track with the healthy eating. Have been terrible over Christmas though!

grin WTAF?!

beaky Flowers hope you managed to have a nice Christmas despite he grumpiness. I was in a foul mood on Christmas Eve but managed to pull myself out of it and had a decent enough time. I tried not to drink too much and also to not get too annoyed with DPs drinking either but struggled with both! If your baseline scan is tomorrow, when does the stimming start? I know what you mean about wanting to crack on and dreading it - I feel the same about my cycle. I really hope this is third time lucky for you.

hi clem how are you? Did you try any acupuncture yet?

lucie not long to go then! Good luck!

sesame how was your Christmas? When is your appointment and how did you choose your new FC?

I was fine with the new baby yesterday, and today spent some time with more babies and children. I had a little one on my lap for most of the afternoon.

AF finally turned up late on Christmas Day, a rare 31 day cycle - have only had a couple that length in the last 4 years so quite unusual. Hoping the next ones are normal length for me, as I don't want EC to clash with Mr T's stag do! Just working out potential dates for our cycle so I can try and plan the next few months.

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OTheHugeManatee · 28/12/2015 20:54

Beaky - hope your baseline goes ok tomorrow. I'm feeling a bit tired and queasy but otherwise fine. I was so happy and excited pre MC last time but I feel a bit detached about this one and more anxious than excited. It's especially the case as my EDD would have been in about two weeks and I feel like that lost baby is as present in my thoughts as any possibility of another in the future. Sorry if that sounds morbid or ungrateful. I keep telling myself I should count my blessings.

Tigerdog - glad you get to spend a bit of time with Mr T and the TD. Well done for surviving all the babies and cooing.

When does your next cycle kick off?

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beakybeak · 28/12/2015 22:50

Well done Tiger, I bet it was lovely seeing little people if a little tricky. Fx the dates work out for you, it's so annoying (and worrying) when your normal cycle doesn't stick to the usual timescale. My 10 day af last time really freaked me out! Thanks for the good wishes too, I feel like I'm much less prepared and not as healthy this time Xmas Confused but I am hoping anyway. So may hurdles to get over again too. Eek. Stimming would start Wednesday of the baseline is ok.

Manatee I think it would be totally understandable to feel that way about the baby you lost while still trying to count your blessings about this one. I am crossing my fingers this works out for you. One thing doesn't take away the other, and it's ok to feel how you do. Flowers

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happylass · 29/12/2015 15:16

Afternoon Ladybros. Hope you all had an amazing Christmas. Apologies for the silence. Currently away on a lovely mini break with DH.
Beaky how did the baseline go? I'm due to start when AF rocks up around 5th/6th Jan. I've provisionally booked in for baseline on the 7th so hopefully the dates will all work out. (I've just realised this is actually next week Shock. With it being January and 'next year' it still feels like ages away!). I'm nowhere near as healthy this time either. Been eating and drinking crap (I'm currently sipping on a mulled cider and when I asked DH to get me a hot drink at 11am this morning he got me a spicy tea laced with vodka Grin). But I figure being healthy did us no good before so what's the point!
Welcome chicken. Sorry you find yourself here but you are in excellent company. Hope your stay is short and sweet.
Grin Shock at your DMs suggestion. As if!
Hope everyone else is doing ok

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chicken2015 · 29/12/2015 19:08

Hello, thought I would do little update big deal for me ! I had first little period on Nov 14th after not having them since 18 due to conteception, injection ran out Jan 2015, had much "normal" last 4 days! 49 days since last one , hopefully my next one will b more regular

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tigerdog · 29/12/2015 19:23

How did you get on today beaky? Thinking of you.

happy I'm with you on the health kick or lack of...it's made naff all difference thus far! I've just booked a wedding booze cruise to France to buy 80 bottles of wine! Xmas Grin

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happylass · 29/12/2015 20:41

Great stuff Tiger. Don't forget the real Champagne from the actual Champagne region Grin

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barkingtreefrog · 29/12/2015 21:08

Hi all, back from holibobs and slammed into reality. 43 days and counting since miscarriage bleeding started and still no sodding sign of even an indication AF might be on its way at some point. Going to call the clinic tomorrow and see if there's an option other than 'wait'. At the moment the timescales are going to put ivf d-day right over Easter weekend again, same as last year. I do NOT want it screwing up the bank holiday for a second year. I don't want to keep waiting either, the longer this goes on the further away our last ivf round gets, and I just want it over with. Four fucking years is long enough!! Angry

Anyway, that's my rant over.

Grin I really don't see your problem. Who wouldn't want that dna, and that person totally involved in the life of your child? HmmConfused What did you say to your mum's suggestion?!

Happy sounds like the receptionist has a bit of a chip on her shoulder, well done for saying something, that was totally inappropriate.

Tiger I assume you'll have to taste quite a bit of wine to make sure you get the right one? Grin

beaky hope baseline went okay today.

smidge I'd go with selling it. We've got rid of so much stuff in the process of our anticipated house move, and it's actually felt quite liberating.

Sesame I'm still gutted for you that your cycle was cancelled. I'm hoping you get helpful news at the new clinic.

Welcome chicken and congratulations manatee Smile

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SesameSparkle · 30/12/2015 18:05

spare yay for the move to England! When's the big day? Loved the ttc mug Grin

grin I am totally Shock at that comment from your dm!

chicken welcome. Hope your stay here is short. Are you trying anything in particular to shed some pounds? I really need to do the same.

lucie thanks, good luck with the stabbing! Glad to hear everything is getting underway again.

clem hi there! Where are you up to with treatment at the moment?

beaky thanks, my consultation was today. How did your baseline scan go? Have you got the go ahead to start stims? Hope you are feeling better in time for the new year celebrations. Smile

tiger Christmas was ok thanks. I picked the fc based on a v small glimmer of hope that they might offer something different from my current one. That remains to be seen. Well done you surviving around all those little ones.

manatee how are you holding up? Do you plan on getting an early scan or do you wait for the 12 week one?

happy hope you had a lovely break? Do you know what protocol you will be on or is that all yet to be revealed?

barking thanks, hope you had a nice holiday? What did the clinic say? Is it possible you could take something to bring on a bleed?

So I had an appointment at a new fc today. I'm thinking about doing a natural cycle in the new year. I feel that I'm at the end of the road but I still can't let go until I feel that I've tried everything. My mind is completely whirling with information now. I will probably update you berries more once I've had a chance to digest. Also I've a follow up appointment at my current fc in 2 weeks so have that to think about too.

I'm sure I'll be back v soon. But here's a happy new year to you all just in case I don't see you! Hope you all get a chance to celebrate with a nice glass of actual champagne! Grin

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beakybeak · 30/12/2015 18:30

Sesame that sounds like you had an interesting meeting. I think a natural cycle sounds very tempting to be fair. Hope you're ok otherwise and happy new year to you too! Wine

Barking could you take the pill? It may bring on an artificial bleed but at least you'd have a cycle again. glad you had a lovely holiday though.

Tiger that sounds like a really fun wedding job!! I have bought myself a nutri bullet today to try and get more greens etc in. I feel terrible health wise!

Happy I hope you have had a lovely mini break! This new year has really snuck round, but glad we can get going again. Have you thought any more about Czech though?

I start stabbing tonight. Same protocol as before and am crapping myself. So nervous hoping for a good response.

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OTheHugeManatee · 30/12/2015 18:44

barking good to see you. How are you doing? After my mc it took about 6 weeks for AF to come back, so hopefully yours will show soon. It must be so frustrating though, to be waiting to wait (as it were) especially when you've decided that this is last chance saloon and you don't want it to drag on.

sesame I'm planning to book a scan at 7/8wks ish to check all is well. Don't think I will last all the way to 12 weeks as am basically beside myself with mc fretting and every twinge in my innards sends me running to do a knicker check (sorry if tmi). Turns out I was right about staying away from antenatal clubs - I posted on the Sep 2016 one and was talking about mc risks and experiences with another poster who was just got a bfp after IVF in her early 40's. We basically got asked nicely to stop talking about mc as it was making someone else anxious. Which is fair enough I suppose and perhaps I am being a bit morbid but, well, it is on my mind. So I'm probably best lurking elsewhere at least until (if) I make it past the third trimester. Thanks for not booting me out Smile

Sounds like you had a thought-provoking meeting at the new fc. Hope you manage to get some clarity about the way forward for the new year. And of course a glass of RCFTCR at midnight tomorrow!

Same to you all - happy New Years to all the berries if I don't see you before then.

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OTheHugeManatee · 30/12/2015 18:51

Oh - x posted! Best of luck with the stabbing, hope it's not too uncomfortable. I'll be (slightly queasily) waving my pompoms for you Smile

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barkingtreefrog · 30/12/2015 21:44

beaky if I went on the pill that would be another month before I got a cycle wouldn't it? Hoping not to wait that long...
Fingers crossed for you that this is your golden ticket time Star.

sesame a natural cycle sounds good. I called the clinic but got the answerphone - no one in until next Monday Sad.

manatee AF came back after 4 weeks with my 2nd mc, but with my 1st mc it took 12 weeks, and I don't think it would have returned then if it hadn't been for twice weekly acupuncture, which I can't afford to do again. I'm scared the same drawn out nightmare might happen again. 6 weeks is quite common, a couple of the women on the rmc thread said it had taken 6 weeks for them, but this is now almost 6 and a half weeks and given my past experience (and mc 3 was more similar to mc 1) I'm worried. And I can't even speak to anyone until Monday, when I'll be trying to call from work, as will everyone else who wanted to speak to the clinic over the holidays... Angry

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barkingtreefrog · 30/12/2015 21:48

manatee forgot to say, there's a pg after mc thread that might be more helpful than the antenatal ones? I know some of the ladies in the rmc group tried it (although some were annoyed because of the naivety of women who had only had 1 mc, just shows you how important it is to find people who have been through very similar things!!)

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OTheHugeManatee · 31/12/2015 12:01

Thanks barking - I found it, they're very nice over there. Reckon I'll be blathering there about any twinges or worries rather than inflicting it on the general antenatal thread, or pregnancy-railing this one, which would be beyond rude.

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clementineclouds · 31/12/2015 20:42

hi everyone, well looks like AF has rocked up, so clomid starts again from this weekend.

seasame still waiting to hear about the nhs funding decision...getting very restless waiting for them, so we are going to come to a decison in the next few weeks, about out private shortlist.

tiger still not tried acupuncture yet, plan to try in the new year.

hope everyone is doing okay and wish you all a very happy new year for 2016. here's to a year, where all our baby related hopes and dreams, finally come true Flowers. xx

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