The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy!
Current Ladybros:
Smidge 39, TTC since Jan '13. Unexplained. Some high NK cell immune treatment. IVF#1 Short protocol Jul'14 BFN; IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb'15 both Long protocol BFNs; Natural FET Jun'15 - Another BFN. Trying to work out what to do next.


Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 3 failed ICSI cycles, 1 failed FET and 1 abandoned cycle due to poor response. Awaiting next and final cycle with own eggs hopefully Feb/March time. HATE THIS SHIT!!


Beaky 35, ttc 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1 long protocol ivf cancelled, 2 short protocol IVF both BFN, very low amh/poor responder etc. 3rd IVF in January.


Tigerdog, 35, ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF #1 chemical pregnancy. Currently redoing tests in preparation for IVF #2.


barkingtreefrog 36, ttc since Dec 2011. clomid bfp summer 2013 then mc @7 weeks, iui bfp summer 2014 then mc @6 weeks. Factor V leiden thrombophilia diagnosed at the repeat mc clinic. IUI bfn Jan 2015, IVF bfn April/May 2015. FET bfn August 2015, remaining frozen embryo perished. Private tests showed high nk cells activity and th1/th2 as well as mthrfr gene. Started downregging for long protocol ivf in Oct 15 plus two intralipid drips, and got pg. Third mc @ 6.4 weeks despite heparin, intralipids, metafolin and prednisolone. Last Ivf attempt starting February 2016 then on to adoption. 


Kuma - 40. TTC 2.9 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15, cancelled cycle June 15. Last try Jan 16. 


Lucieloos, 36, Low AMH & sperm motility. ICSI#1, April 2015, Czech Republic, BFN. Icsi#2, cancelled before EC. Icsi#3 & 4, Embryo Banking. 3 blasts in freezer. Icsi#5 in Czech in Jan. NHS cycle in Feb / March.



Sesame, 40, ttc 2 years with no dp, multiple failed IVFs, 4 ETs, 1 bfp followed by mc, poor responder with v low AMH, but still looking for the golden egg.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. still in limbo. 


Funkymonk 33. Ttc since October 2012. Mc June 2013, Mmc dec 2013, mc June 2014. Factor v Leiden thrombophilia. Abandoned IVF Jan 2015 due to thin lining. Abandoned FET Aug 2015 due to thin lining. 4 embies on ice. Currently experimenting with different cycles in an attempt to thicken lining.
Clem, 39, ttc since 2013. diagnosed with anovulation by nhs so on a course of clomid. no male factor issues. all other test results have come back okay inc. ovarian test reserves. currently being referred back to nhs for single funded cycle.
Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. Starting IVF in January.


Antonia79 36, ttc #1 since 2009, adhesions made for sticky insides & one tube removed, confirmed NHS IVF route Sept 15, TTC naturally again as recommended by doctor until IVF cycle starts (early - mid 2016) if not conceived by then.


Grin - 35, TTC 3 years, NFI why I can't get pregnant,, 3 X failed clomid attemots, 2 X ICSI failed fertilisations, 1 x IVF BFN. Doing another cycle in Mar 2016 and thinking of embryo donation.


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happylass · 16/12/2015 19:07
Hey ladybros. It is quiet in here.
Yes, have definitely been enjoying the festivities beaky. Probably a bit too much - feel like I've eaten and drink loads the last few nights! Very family packed weekend, which was lovely. How are you?
I was firmly told that my FC didn't believe in immune testing nolly. They have a different set of beliefs for the private side of their business! 
Hope you had an amazing time in Venice, I've never been and it is high on my list of places to visit!
sesame how are you?
Nice work on the complaining happy, glad they are slotting you in! The jumper made me chuckle - I used af in a text to my sister this week and she didn't have a clue what I was on about!
I'll be right behind you, protocol appointment is now booked for Tues 12 Jan (well, I need to call back and confirm now that I've spoken to DP) and I think I'll start stabbing end Jan/early February. I'm also rolling the dice and jacking in my job to move to a new company!
I cannot wait to leave London on 22nd to get going for Christmas! The last two days seem like an eternity to get through. I'm feeling a bit run down - I have a stye (haven't had one since I was a kid) and look a bit knackered generally, nice! Af due on Tues so no doubt I'll be a wreck of a person by Christmas Day.
Hope you've all had lovely weekends!
Ha! I'd like a festive AF happy! One week late now 
My NHS consultant didn't believe in immunes, thought they were a money grabbing exercise.
tiger when do you start the new job?
The mobile site seems to have stopped working on my phone & nexus, so I'm trying to use the desktop site on my nexus but the key board is really dodgy and it's difficult to read, so might be lurking for a while if this carries on!
Hi everyone! My stats didn't make it across - teach me to just update my own instead of re-doing the whole lot
For the record - OTheHugeManatee, 36, TTC #1 since September 2014. One MMC in June 2015, one rather large fibroid (Gladys). Still TTC au naturel but with a follow up appointment booked with Addenbrooks in May '16 following recent MRI investigations into Gladys. Hoping for a FUFC before then.
LOL at 'festive AF'! I'm due on any minute and waver between wanting AF to arrive, just so I can relax and enjoy the extremely good claret DH has ordered in for Christmas, and wanting AF not to show because baybee.
Meanwhile finding this Christmas fair to medium difficult. My EDD for the baby I miscarried was 12 January so I was expecting to be the size of a house and looking forward to being a mother right now. And I'm not. I went to the advent service at our local church yesterday cos I felt like a bit of Christmassing to cheer me up, and found myself crying all the way through because it's supposed to be a happy time and all I could think about was the baby that wasn't.
I lit a candle for her (I don't know what gender it would've been but I think of it as a her) so I'll add that to sesame's candles. I know there are lots of others on this thread who will be remembering losses this Christmas as well. barking I'm thinking particularly of you as it was so recent, but 
to all of you.
Apologies for leaving you off Manatee. I assumed that the last list posted was the most up to date version so I copied and pasted that. Thinking of you at this very difficult time. Sending a huge Berry hug
Aw Manatee I'm so sorry. It's such a difficult time never mind with the added aspect of Christmas and everyone who focuses on it being kids/family. Big hug.
Tiger congratulations on the new job! Very pleased for you. Is it nearer home? I feel like I've over indulged already! I'm so concious of starting my cycle soon though and I don't want to be too naughty. I have 4 bottles of real champagne from the champagne region 
in the fridge calling my name!
Barking hope you're doing ok and enjoy your break.
Sesame I hope you're ok, been thinking of you.
Thanks for the hugs. What lovely berries you all are 
Tiger Where is the new job? Congrats! Are you now Grand High Poobah Of Everything? I have to find a new job soon, I've been contracting 3 days/week since March on very good pay but will not be likely to find something so peachy again and most likely have to get a FT perm role now, boo hiss. I don't like having to commute every day
beaky I'm sort of hoping AF arrives now so I can have the traditional smoked salmon breakfast with DH on Christmas Day with a glass of real champagne from the champagne region 
I'm sure a glass or two won't interfere with your upcoming cycle...
Grin - it's not quite the same but I imagine it's equally as difficult to tolerate. Whenever I see smugly pregnant women on the Tube I think 'Why isn't this meeeeee?' 
And jeez but your mum sounds like she needs a smack. A couple of months ago, my stepfather took it upon himself to come over and lecture us about drinking alcohol. Neither of us are raging alkies, but he's teetotal so assumes anyone who isn't must have a problem I guess. He's also a man and a twat and has no kids so has no clue how sensitive the issue of ttc can be. In the course of the conversation he managed to imply that my MC might have been caused by my drinking. It was all I could do not to throw things at him and scream at him to get out of my house, and though we've had it out since and I think he grasps how grossly offensive he's been I'm not sure our relationship will ever be the same again.
Nolly Enjoy Venice! I went when God was still in short trousers I was 17, with school, and remember it feeling like an enchanted place (albeit quite smelly). Hope you have a lovely time
tiger New job sounds great, if you can WFH apart from client sites. I shall think of you as Grand Poobah whatever your title Sorry about your bfn though, for all that it means nice bevvies over Christmas.
Stepdad is a nice guy in many ways, but in this he has been a colossal twat. He jumped to a set of fucking offensive conclusions based on not much information, and proceeded to deliver his wisdom based on said conclusions in a pretty upsetting way. TBH I don't even think it was even about the ttc, it was that I'd offended him in some way probably by not completely hiding my amusement at his ridiculous political views and he's using this as an outlet because he's a passive-aggressive twat. Did I mention he's a twat? I will get over it, for Mum's sake, but I doubt I'll look at him the same way in the future. Ach, of such things is family life made I guess.
Grin I take it your mother's visit was brief? Not several days long? Hope you are coping with your essays and the matricidal urges anyway.
Well, I hope the Berries don't evict me for this, but to my considerable surprise after getting a BFN a few days ago, I re-tested this morning as I felt weird and AF was 3 days late and got a BFP. I am 
but also but still .
I guess this must look like an instadiff, as I only recently joined your thread, but from where I'm sitting it isn't. I'm very happy, of course, but after the last MC at 9wks I def don't feel as excited, more fatalistic (and vaguely churlishly disappointed at a booze-free Christmas Day esp with rather fain wain DH ordered.)
If it's OK please may I hang around, in a lurky way, for a little while? I'm shitting myself about having another MC and don't think I can deal with the idea of joining an EDD thread just now.
Wow manatee, congratulations!! Well, it might be an instadiff by Berry standards 
but that by no means diminishes what you've been through to get here. Everything tightly crossed for you that this works out. Please do hang around until you're ready to graduate!
Great news Manatee!! Everything crossed for you. Of course you can stick around. When you are ready though there is a Berry grads thread.
Had our treatment planning today. Booked in for baseline on Jan 7th. As the consultant was leafing through our notes I wasn't very happy to spot written "Mr Happy displayed a very bad attitude when I explained....." (I didn't see the rest.). I can only think it must have been written by the consultant we saw last week. DH did complain about us being left waiting for almost an hour without anyone mentioning they were running late (apparently part of our notes were 'upstairs') but he certainly wasn't rude about it! DH is self employed and had to cancel a client last minute due to the hold up. I'm really 
that anyone who now reads this will instantly have a negative opinion of us. I like to think we are really nice people
Fecking doctors, happylass I'm sure they're very busy but if they've never been self-employed they just won't get that being kept waiting and dicked around can have instant and expensive knock-on effects. Leaving snitty stuff on your notes about 'bad attitude' is just bitchy.
I'm sure you can ask to see the notes though and get an explanation. I'm sure you are both lovely people, too And that's great news that you're kicking off early in January though.
Thanks for letting me stick around, Berries. I'm just not sure I'm in the right frame of mind for an antenatal-club thread full of 25-year-olds who just instadiffed #3 If I make it past the first trimester I might feel a bit bolder but as it is I just feel wary of getting too excited yet.
Oh I'm so annoyed, I wrote a long post and the iPhone lost it
manatee congrats! Cautiously excited. Fingers crossed this is it!
beaky sorry you're feeling rough, but glad it should be short-lived. I'm impressed you get to have your baseline next week, I thought they'd shut up shop over Christmas.
Tiger enjoy the lack of London commute.
Happy I'd be so unsettled by that in your position, wanting to be able to justify myself (my OH). I bet MrHappy just wanted communication anyway. I blame the stupid doctors' secretaries. view completely tarnished forever by AliG's annoying secretary, oh yes for goodness sake, it's their job to manage the appointments so it wouldn't be beyond the job description to notice when the doctor is running late and let the following patients know. It's just common sense and common courtesy really, and I'd be v annoyed at the tone of the message in your notes. Grrr!
I've been keeping up with the thread but haven't really got much to contribute. Most of us have been here so long we know all about the treatments and what each other is up to now!
So I'll tell you about my shipping issues... Trying to plan our shipment to england and had thought we'd store some things here and only ship what we need (my house in England is pretty small). Unfortunately storage costs a fortune!! A 3m * 1.5m storage space will cost $5k for two years, and I don't think it'll even fit our settee, let along fridgefreezer, washing machine, spare bed and wardrobes! Increasing the shipment only adds an extra $1.5k but then we're left with what to do with the stuff at the other end. So I think we may have to start e-baying. Only I've discovered that I can't let go of my dream to one day have a big four bedroomed house with formal and informal lounges areas etc. stupid really, as it's unnecessary when there is no child, but I'm struggling to let go of the house dream even though in trying to wean myself off the dream of a baby.
Smidge I was just wondering how you were doing. Sorry to hear about the shipping headache. Totally not stupid to dream of a bigger house. We plan on moving next year, probably to a 4 bedder (or a 3 bed with room to extend). We'd always intended to stay in our current house until we'd had one child then move before number 2 came along. Oh how naive we were to make such assumptions!
Thanks for the support on the FC Ladybros. I don't think anyone expects to go in to an NHS appointment on time but I don't think it's too much to ask that they let you know if there's going to be a serious delay. DH rang the FC manager yesterday to request that what was written is taken out of our notes. She apologised, agreed that it is inappropriate and said it can be taken out but there are 'procedures' to go through .
Have a great Christmas Eve all. I'm lying here in bed listening to the rain belting down. Very festive 
smidge How frustrating on the shipping! It's mad that storage costs so much, but IIRC even renting a shipping container on a farm round these parts costs about £100/month so $5k for two years doesn't sound far off. Perhaps unless they're sentimental bits selling and replacing would be the way to go anyway. If it's any comfort, you might not want the old furniture when you get your dream house anyway - DH and I moved to a larger property a couple of years ago and I think we will end up getting rid of quite a lot of the furniture from the previous house, as it's functionally OK but as we renovate we're replacing with stuff that's a better fit look- and shape-wise. It also means you have free rein to create a much more 'put-together' look when you replace them as you'll know the room and colour scheme you're buying for. So there is an interior design upside
Happy Glad you had a word with the clinic. I get the values behind the NHS but sometimes the public sector mindset is palpable.
beaky Good luck with the scan next week!
I'm off for a day of Christmas preparations. If I'm not back online soon have lovely Christmases everyone!
Happy that's totally inappropriate and good on you for asking to have it removed. This sort of nonsense is why I can't bear to work in the NHS any more! It's just as bad if you work in it. 
smidge, howdy. Sounds like a logistical nightmare...exciting that your plans for coming to England are in progress though! I agree, dreaming of a bigger house is not stupid. I'll need somewhere with space for my many dogs and chickens if I don't have kids!
beaky sorry you've been feeling ill. Not what you need on top of everything. The pill never agreed with me either. We are fairly sorted wedding wise but have a load of things to sort over the holidays! Sorting the invites next - my brother designed them and I'm printing and putting together. Also need to sort my bridesmaids dresses, hoping the sales will be good for that.
I'm up North for Christmas and right now it is blowing a gale! The whole house is rattling. Crazy weather. Yesterday was stunning sunshine but today is horrible. As it is the holidays, Tdog is in bed with me, and I think we may stay here a while!
Still no sign of af which is now 2 days late. I had my suspicions that I ovulated late so expecting it to rock up tomorrow. Great!
Well the saga of our notes continues! The FC manager rang DH earlier to say it was the RECEPTIONIST and not the doctor who wrote about him having s bad attitude. I am 
. All DH said to her was "I'm just checking our appointment was at 2:40" and she barked "Yes take a seat" to which DH replied "because it's 3:15 now.." And again she barked "yes take a seat". DH has had a huge apology from the FC and the receptionist has been put on leave (but we've been reassured she won't lose her job - we don't want that). Smidge you were right! It looks like it's not just your woman who has ideas way above her station! The cheek of it
Eeeee Happy that's terrible. Totally getting beyond herself there like.
Oo Tiger are you nearish me? It's bloody freezing and so windy up here.
Smidge what a nightmare! How long will you be in the UK for? Have you guys decided to definitley draw a line then? Such hard choices, big hug.
Hope everyone else is gearing up for a lovely Christmas! I am finally finished work, so only Christmas type work to do now
Merry Christmas berries!
Bloody hell Happy How fucking DARE she. I hope she has had a thorough beasting, the evil-tempered cowbag.
Merry Christmas to you too beaky! I have a day off today and am basically trundling around doing inefficient Christmas preparation. I've mostly done the beef Wellington, it just needs the pastry wrapping and cooking now; I'm supposed to be putting some more decorations up but I mostly just want to be asleep. Hopeless
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Hohoho ladybros!
Thank you for all your nice comments. So sorry about the radio silence. I don't really have good excuse, just general woe is me style moping...
manatee yay for the bfp, lovely to have some good news on the thread. Happy to help hand hold until 12 week scan.
happy grrrrr for all the clinic shenanigans! 
I'm a bit late to the party, but I did love the jumper. I'm due my own festive af between xmas and ny
happy I knew it!! They're a breed of their own. So glad you followed it up and they've taken it seriously. I feel much less anxious now on your behalf!
beaky we have our one frostie left to try but I don't think I believe in it. It took an extra day, and I just feel the chances are so slim. Anyway, we'll put it back next month and if it doesn't work out at least we have the move to keep us occupied.
sesame we're aiming to be in England for 2 yrs. (I'd stay for longer if OH would). V excited!
I like the interior design argument by the way, manatee . Some of the things we imagined in the big house, but you're right that the style may not suit, so selling and rebutting might make sense even to the sentimental side of me
I'm lying on my back on the large settee that we won't be able to bring and MrSmidge just brought me in a coffee. Look what it says underneath!!! Never noticed before
Smidge DId I not know or just forget that you were planning a move? Anyway, have you thought about buying a shipping container and leaving it on someones property? That is our plan eventually. A container is about $2000-4000 depending on size.
Manatee Oh congratulations. I am very cup half empty sort of person (with everything) so I can understand the apprehnesion.
Happy ahh bloody clinics. Sometimes I really wish they could experience it from our side.
Beaky good to hear that the tests will give you something. A baseline hopefully.
Lucie Not long now I would guess until the Czech adventure?
Nolly New year new cycle! Hopefully it goes well.
Barking How have you been?
Well Mum has gone thankfully. The Inlaws arrive in two days and DH is working the wholetime. Luckily they are nice and are not as stressful as my own DM. I have one more essay to do (leadership theories in nursing - yuck) then a month of placement in a hospital (I know we need the experience but damn I hate working for free) then exams. Hopefully after February we can start yet another cycle. I need to drop weight though. I have gotten sooooooo fat since starting IVF.
Anyway, I hope everyone had a lovely Christmas. It was hot and my expensive ham from the butcher was bland and tasteless but the wine was cold
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