Pom Poms, Placards and Picket Lines. The Berries are putting up the barricades and will not be crossed! A delightful bunch of 30 something Ladybros TTC #1.

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The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy!

Current Ladybros:

Smidge 39, TTC since Jan '13. Unexplained. Some high NK cell immune treatment. IVF#1 Short protocol Jul'14 BFN; IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb'15 both Long protocol BFNs; Natural FET Jun'15 - Another BFN. Trying to work out what to do next.



Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 3 failed ICSI cycles, 1 failed FET and 1 abandoned cycle due to poor response. Awaiting next and final cycle with own eggs hopefully Feb/March time. HATE THIS SHIT!!



Beaky 35, ttc 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1 long protocol ivf cancelled, 2 short protocol IVF both BFN, very low amh/poor responder etc. 3rd IVF in January.



Tigerdog, 35, ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF #1 chemical pregnancy. Currently redoing tests in preparation for IVF #2.



barkingtreefrog 36, ttc since Dec 2011. clomid bfp summer 2013 then mc @7 weeks, iui bfp summer 2014 then mc @6 weeks. Factor V leiden thrombophilia diagnosed at the repeat mc clinic. IUI bfn Jan 2015, IVF bfn April/May 2015. FET bfn August 2015, remaining frozen embryo perished. Private tests showed high nk cells activity and th1/th2 as well as mthrfr gene. Started downregging for long protocol ivf in Oct 15 plus two intralipid drips, and got pg. Third mc @ 6.4 weeks despite heparin, intralipids, metafolin and prednisolone. Last Ivf attempt starting February 2016 then on to adoption. 



Kuma - 40. TTC 2.9 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15, cancelled cycle June 15. Last try Jan 16. 



Lucieloos, 36, Low AMH & sperm motility. ICSI#1, April 2015, Czech Republic, BFN. Icsi#2, cancelled before EC. Icsi#3 & 4, Embryo Banking. 3 blasts in freezer. Icsi#5 in Czech in Jan. NHS cycle in Feb / March.




Sesame, 40, ttc 2 years with no dp, multiple failed IVFs, 4 ETs, 1 bfp followed by mc, poor responder with v low AMH, but still looking for the golden egg.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. still in limbo. 



Funkymonk 33. Ttc since October 2012. Mc June 2013, Mmc dec 2013, mc June 2014. Factor v Leiden thrombophilia. Abandoned IVF Jan 2015 due to thin lining. Abandoned FET Aug 2015 due to thin lining. 4 embies on ice. Currently experimenting with different cycles in an attempt to thicken lining.

Clem, 39, ttc since 2013. diagnosed with anovulation by nhs so on a course of clomid. no male factor issues. all other test results have come back okay inc. ovarian test reserves. currently being referred back to nhs for single funded cycle.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. Starting IVF in January.



Antonia79 36, ttc #1 since 2009, adhesions made for sticky insides & one tube removed, confirmed NHS IVF route Sept 15, TTC naturally again as recommended by doctor until IVF cycle starts (early - mid 2016) if not conceived by then.



Grin - 35, TTC 3 years, NFI why I can't get pregnant,, 3 X failed clomid attemots, 2 X ICSI failed fertilisations, 1 x IVF BFN. Doing another cycle in Mar 2016 and thinking of embryo donation.



The Roll of honour:

Pip - Quite simply the Best In Show.
Lumen - The Legend that is....

tiger I think your allowed to not healthy eat, when you get married...its the law isn't it I really need to get into yoga too...its on my list of things to do. ref. my dh, and his food likes...he is against 'bland' food, and likes something with a bit of heat in (on the other hand, I don't handle chilli heat well at all). he loves his carbs (particularly challenging, as we are trying to go low carb on the advice of the fc). I'll eat most things, where as he is a lot more picky/has more dislikes food wise.

beaky thanks for your advice, on the fact it takes time to get recipes sorted out...I know I am my own worst enemy sometimes. I did kind of just decide "okay, from today, we go low carb/high protein"...then the pressure started to build from that point to find recipes that would work, each day moving forward. realistically, I need to find one recipe that works, then once thats agreed, find another...all the while, reducing the carb heavy/freezer convenience food, we have at the moment.

ant glad to hear you are using boxsets to distract yourself. I love all the stargate series (I'm a proper sci-fi geek), love all those sort of programmes. breaking bad is amazing too. if you get a chance, and can find it, try to watch fringe...its fab.

seasame I'll pm you as I want to try to get into mfp. good suggestion too, about picking meals we have at the moment, and trying to find recipes to replicate them from scratch (removing all the preservative nasties, and doing all fresh). think I need to walk before I run...and start with the basics, like you say. hope your wtf app goes okay on thursday.

happy I'll add you on mfp too. sorry you had to deal with that surprise birth announcement...never gets any easier does it. like you say, knowing its coming, makes it a little less painful. a friend of mine, is currently very, very pregnant (nearly full term), and pictures of her bump, are all over facebook. I'm getting to the point, where I think I need to drop off facebook for a while, fed up with the baby bombing that happens all the time.

barking thanks, I know I should be easier on myself...being the 'strong one' who is always supporting others (like most of us)...its hard not to just try to carry on the same when its something happening to me...I guess its totally normal to react like this. really good news that you saw a heartbeat...thinking about you lots. x

so, not a lot going on over here...feeling a bit brighter this week, which is good. just waiting for my next natural af to happen, so that we can get on planning the next ivf cycle. also, waiting to get results for dna fragmentation test dh had...annoyingly though, we were told only a week to get the results...its been 10 days already, and just been told, it will be another week (results may mean dh has to change the supplement he is on, and then its waiting for another 3 months, to get those to take full effect in his system). very annoying.

happy I had one before starting stims, then a week before egg collection, and then three weeks after (post bfp). I'll have another one in two weeks if I get that far, so on that basis I'd hope that yes, it would still do something! Otherwise that's more money for nothing

happy really sorry about the birth announcement, that really sucks. That class sounds interesting… surely being double pupo with 2 blasts in your pouch womble makes you extra qualified to pretend to be a kangaroo…? More importantly, when is otd and do you test early?

barking I struggled with trying to sort my old photos. I got a bit bogged down looking at stuff and texting wasn’t I so young and fat pics to my friends and after I while I just packed everything up and left it. Amazing news about the heartbeat! , glad they’re keeping a really close eye on you, keep going barkingbean!!

clem good luck with the cooking, would love to know how you get on. Could dh’s carbs be cooked and served separately from the rest of the meal? E.g. adding rice/baked potato/bread etc. as a side dish, but keeping it off your own plate? I used to do a bit of that with my ex who was Irish and thought potatoes had to be served with every meal. Glad you’re feeling a bit brighter, hope that the results of dh’s tests come back soon.

I need a bit more advice on the high protein/low carb thing. I’ve been logging everything into mfp for a week now. It turns out I’m eating 80-90g of protein each day, which I think is a good thing. But the trouble is my carbs and sugars are still very high. I always thought of my diet as being low sugar and low carb – low sugar because I would only have a refined sugary treat about once week and most hidden sugars (e.g. jam, sauces etc. are eliminated). And I thought my diet was relatively low carb as I’ve largely cut out bread. But my log says otherwise. It seems I’m getting a lot of sugars from fruit (I eat about 3 portions a day) and a little bit from dairy. Are these kinds of sugars still bad for a high protein diet? And lots of other kinds of carbs creep in from all over the place, including from my daily porridge/muesli and from eating so much vegetable based stuff. I’m a bit about this whole thing to be honest. Am wondering if I should just bite the bullet and buy some protein supplements and just try to eat less of anything else. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

seasame thanks for the good luck. ref. dh and his carb's, I think its a mindset thing, more than anything else. he has said he wants to try this low carb way of eating too (esp. if he can lose some weight he wants to shift too)...but he is good at saying that he wants to change, but then bad...cause he'll pick up the carb rich foods, cause thats what he's used too...it will all just take time.

I also feel your pain on this whole high protein/low carb thing...I think its sooo hard to know what all foods contain for example, carrots are quite carby thats a word, honest (I think I read that last week) ...but I would want to eat them, cause they are carrots, they MUST be healthy. and fruit, again MUST be healthy, its fruit, but laden with natural sugars etc...is all just so bloody exhausting to try to understand. makes me want to do a course on nutrition...either that or go find a rock to hide under, and ignore it all.

sorry, I know that wasn't helpful, just a bit ranty. I'd be interested to see what others think, cause I'm in a similar position to you, that even when I start fully clean eating, I know the balance of protien/carbs...probably won't be what they should be.

clem, I know I’m a little bit despairing about this whole nutrition thing right now. Carrots are carby, snacking on them raw is probably fine, but once they are cooked the fibre is broken down and the calories are much more accessible, so portion control is still important .

The general thing for me is that previously I thought I was actually doing really well. I lost over 4 stone just by cutting out sugar, and making some broader changes to my diet. It took about 2 years, as the weight came off dead slow, but I always thought that would be much more sustainable. When my weight finally stabilised (I never had a 'goal'), I still measured as overweight bmi, but looked a lot better (sort of average rather than slim). But in the past 18 months I’ve managed to gain at least stone back on and I’ve even gone as far as removing some of my nice smaller dresses from my wardrobe, so I don’t need to see them every day . I’m annoyed my clever plan of this being for the long term, hasn’t worked out. I’ve blamed a lot of this on treatment. But I think I’ve now worked out where I have been going wrong - I’ve been snacking too much on the ‘healthy’ stuff – nuts, oatcakes, peanut butter, brown bread (which lives in the freezer to stop me eating it!), cheese, and dried and fresh fruit. And now, I don’t really know what to make of focusing on the protein thing, as that list of healthy snacks also contains lots of the protein I need to be eating more of. I like to rant too!

Urgh, happy those announcements are the worst. Fingers crossed for this transfer for you.

barking I'm so pleased - is this the first time you've seen a heartbeat? Cautious excitement and a whole load of hope and positivity channelling your way. Paw squeeze.

ant hope you're hanging in there and enjoying your box set bingeing!

Ooh I think I'll try out this group approach to MFP too, it might shame me out of eating so much chocolate. I have a problem with sugar...I'm addicted. I can usually keep it under control but I've been dreadful this last two weeks. Yesterday, I had none all day and had the mother of all headaches by mid-afternoon. I'm easing back into healthier eating this week, but it's hard with two nights away with work. From next week I'll be back on it in earnest, honestly!

It is exhausting isn't it clem. I hate feeling guilty every time I eat something that isn't healthy too. My meals are usually pretty healthy but snacking is my weakness. Glad you're feeling a bit brighter. The slowness of things like test results does my head in, hope you get them soon!

sesame I do think that all sugars are meant to be bad - my mum's husband has type 2 diabetes and isn't allowed to eat bananas (can't remember if it's not at all or not too often) as they are very high in sugar, and yet I would have previously considered a banana to be a very healthy food item. Same with even good quality fruit juice. I also use honey and maple syrup too often. I do use a protein supplement to get my levels up without having to eat more. Even that isn't enough! Apparently full fat milk has lower sugar than semi skimmed, so I now have a mix of low fat and full fat milk/yoghurt.

beaky I can't get a GP appointment at the moment and I don't want to change my GP back to Birmingham until my funding is confirmed in London for whatever else I am entitled to, in case they withdraw it. I will try again for next week. I am having a breather on it all too - I almost (almost) forgot about the whole infertility misery in the run up to the wedding. AF is due today but no sign as yet - think my cycle wasn't quite right as it's the first one post IVF - I wasn't getting a convincing indication of ovulation on the pee sticks at the time I was expecting to (so I gave up after a while) so not too sure if/when I ovulated.

New job seems fine - lots of familiar faces as well as new ones so it isn't too daunting. Lots of travel in these early weeks though, which will be quite tiring no doubt. I'm working at home tomorrow thankfully so I'll be able to chill out a little bit and get to yoga - 3 classes planned for this week if I can manage it.

clem tiger pm me your mfp users and I'll add you I've not been great but at least I'm trying! How much of a cook are you clem? I can send a couple of curry recipes which you can have with brown rice if you like. The whole carbs thing is confusing but generally I think very high carb veg is to be avoided and if you have fruit smoothies (or fruit) it's best to have them with spinach and almond milk/coconut milk/natural you as it helps the resulting sugar spike stay low (or something like that!) Sesame I think your snacks will be fine realistically, but maybe add in a protien shake in addition to what you eat to keep the protien that bit higher. These days I eat any veg as its all good (except too many potatoes!) and most fruit, esp blueberries and avacados where I can get them in but I'm not that keen.

Barking so pleased for you, what a brilliant bit of news, I'm keeping everything crossed for you for the next couple of weeks.

Happy when will you test? Everything crossed for you. Sorry about the birth announcement, it's a massive kick in the teeth.

Tiger nightmare about the GP appointments. How will you work ivf around the new job? I'm really unsure of what to at mine as its a fixed term contract and I am concious there's a bit of a risk there. So pleased it's going well so far though, and it must be so much nicer being home most of the time.

Ant glad you're using box sets to your advantage! I love orange is the new black and Gotham if you haven't seen them. Also if you like scary stuff, I think Netflix has The Fall with Jamie hot Dornan. It is well scary though.

No appointments booked, I'm as rubbish as ever and had a little downer last night about it all again. I hate being the decision maker and not knowing what's best.

Have finally booked a consultation at new clinic, eek. Next Monday quite nervous at the thought.

Argh - the Berries had fallen off my active threads.
I thought everyone had given up and gone home!

Woohoo! We have internet!!! Well, our neighbour's broadband has been fixed, which is essentially the same thing .

Tired and need sleep right now though, so I'll be back to catch up properly later!
beaky well done on booking that appointment.
tiger glad the new job sounds okay, did you get to yoga?

I didn't get to yoga barking. I've got a horrible sore throat, and I couldn't face an hour in a warm room without water. Hoping it doesn't develop any further, have managed not to get any sort of cold all winter, and it would be just my luck to get struck down by something now! Going to have some soluable asprin when I get to the office - a berry remedy from feather if I remember rightly! Hope you're doing ok and time until the next scan isn't passing too slowly.

Wow, you've gone ahead and booked beaky! It is exciting and nervewracking all at once. I really hope it goes well. Do you have your list of questions ready?

Mr T and I have agreed to sit down and go through our options this weekend. So far I am thinking - NK cells biopsy towards start of June (after 2 cycles post IVF failure) and perhaps some private immune testing before that. Then I'm on holiday for two weeks end June/early July. NHS follow up is mid July and then FET after that in Sept most likely. If that doesn't work then, it'll be a private cycle somewhere.

ant how are you doing? Holding out until OTD?

happy hope you're ok - when will you test?

sesame how are you doing?

clem have you managed any new recipes yet? I've just done a fairly big shop and my fridge is now making noises like it might explode, would be just my luck if it packs up and the contents go to waste.

On a long train journey to my new project - only managed one day working from home this week. Hoping that it will be more once things settle.

Hello berries, just a quick update from me until I can sit down and catch up with the thread

Still ongoing destruction with the box sets at night and working from home during the day. Been doing okay until yesterday as it was a bit stressful... First I started spotting a little yesterday but it was brown rather than red. A tiny bit more this morning so hoping that's nothing to worry about. Yesterday I was 11dpt.

Secondly, DH has gastroenteritis I'm not feeling any of the symptoms so I'm hoping I've gotten away with it and he's not contagious!

Only today and tomorrow then otd Saturday...

tiger pm me too so I can add you on mfp! (clem - same goes for you sweetie! ) So far berry mfp has motivated me to go out on 2 midweek runs, and as of this morning it looks like I’ve lost 2lb! On the topic of hidden sugars, when I initially lost weight I also gave up orange juice, smoothies and sweet drinks in general (even the diet versions). And I think that’s done me the world of good even though it makes me an even more boring person than merely a non-drinker on a night out. Sorry about the poorly throat, hope it shifts soon and your job settles down too. I’m impressed with your 6 month plan! Wish I was as organised.

beaky Go you on getting your appointment booked! Fingers crossed you get some good information and a new direction to take treatment wise. On the health stuff, I think I’ll go with your advice and order some whey protein, I just need to work out which type I want.

pip! How’s tricks? Maybe try adding the berries to your watch list?

barking hooray for neighbours broadband! We have missed you!

ant sorry about the spotting, fingers crossed it’s nothing to worry about. Nearly otd though, hang on!

I had my wtf today. I’m going to go ahead with a new cycle on my next period. It might be my final one, I still haven’t quite decided. They’ve agreed to change things around a bit to more of a mini ivf approach with tamoxifen and low dose menopur. So it looks like I’ll be getting started myself again little over a week’s time!

seasame glad I'm not the only one despairing over the whole nutrition side of things (although it would all be better if it made sense to us all). glad your wtf appointment went well and good to hear that you have another cycle starting next week.

tiger really good to hear your new job is going well (familiar faces always help I think). how are your yoga classes going, I've still never managed to get my arse into gear and go to any of these good that you and mr t have agreed to sit down and talk through your options moving forward. me and dh need to do the same, really soon.

beaky really glad you have booked into see your new fc next week. we really need to decide on next steps soon, as my next af is due weekend after next. the whole mindset of all fruit and veg is not necessarily healthy, in a healthy eating plan/low carb diet...its just going to take a while to get my head round it all. I'm trying to cook from scratch more...any good recipes you have, would be gratefully received.

hi pip...no we've not quite given up and gone home, although feels like I want too, some days

welcome back to the internet barking...you have lovely neighbours to let you use their internet.

good to hear the boxsets are being demolished ant hope the spotting has stopped now, it can be such a worry, but I'm sure its fine. hope your dh is feeling better and you haven't been struck down too. can't believe how quick your otd has come round.

cooking, trying...but alsodoing coursework, so time is very limited at the moment

so not much going on over here...trying to stick to the healthy eating, but not succeeding most days...and not got the time to log things into mfp at the mo. I'm just really struggling time wise at the moment, as I'm working and also still working through my degree coursework in my own time...its bloody exhausting.

need to pin dh down, and try and work out our next steps soon too...easier said than done, as it feels like if he's awake, he's working at the mo...doesn't leave much time for much else.

Hello Pip nice to see you!

Sesame that all sounds good,what will you be taking and when? Well done on your weight loss and the runs! I've done a walk every night but no running. I've put on weight too but then I've not exactly been good food wise. Fuckity.

tiger I hope you get many more days of working at home, instead of stupid train journeys. I like the sound of your plan, have you looked around for immunes testing yet? I gather you can have the immunes tests done with a clinic in Greece which is much cheaper than the Chicago one, and you can fed ex your own blood there apparently.

Ant keeping everything crossed for you, you've done so well holding out!

Clem I'll dig you some recipies out, but don't put too much pressure on yourself, I do think it's not worth overly stressing yourself if you can avoid it.

Barking how are you doing? Still sending tons of berry luck your way.

Happy when will you test? Keeping everything crossed for you!

I need to get my list of questions together, i feel like I've been out of the game for a while and have successfully blocked everything out! also briefly planted a 3 cycle banking plan into the convo with dh last night

Hooray for Internet Barking but an even bigger HOORAY for the little heartbeat!! I'm so pleased for you!

Sounds like you have a good plan there MrsTiger. Hope the weekend talks with DH goes well. I always feel better when I have a plan of action, I know what I'm doing! Sounds like you're settling into your new job. You'll be working from home more than you're in the office hopefully.

I love scifi too Clem, we were debating what to watch after Braking Bad and I think it's going to be Star Trek NG or Firefly. Still got to get through BB though. Hope you're doing ok?

I started watching Orange is the New Black a while ago Beaky but stopped for some reason and I can't remember why! I did enjoy it. I'm rubbish with horrors and scary stuff though. I have nightmares after I watch them, pathetic I know! Also good luck for your appointment on Monday!

Hi Sesame, just one more day and I can test tomorrow morning. Less than 24 hours now...

The spotting has turned into what seems to be the beginning of AF. I went to the loo about 15 mins ago and wiped a lot of blood. Also now have mild cramps. I'm preparing myself for a bfn tomorrow morning. Whenever I think about it my heart hurts so I'm doing the stiff upper lip (which quivers a bit now and then) and carrying on regardless and trying not to think about it. Anyway, time for a cup of tea and KitKat then crack on with pay-the-bills work

Antonia I really hope it's not AF. Sending strength for the morning poas

beaky how did the subtle '3 cycle' drop go down? Our consultant recommended it (to then test the embryos due to our history of mc) and DH was 'No.' Not that we could have afforded it anyway, but his response was pretty clear!

Clem my neighbour is my best friend
We have our own internet now!!! We only moved in 5 and half weeks ago!!!
We manage to eat better by cooking big batch meals at the weekend and freezing it - mixed bean chilli, dahl, shepherd's pie, veggie lasagne, pasta bakes etc. Then when we work late or just don't have time to cook we've got something good to take out of the freezer rather than pie and chips which is what we ate last night
I don't feel like I'm seeing dh at all at the moment. We're not even sleeping in the same room as I'm just not sleeping, so he has decamped to the spare room with the dog!

sesame good work on the running, and excellent news on the new cycle. Everything crossed that you don't even have to think about a future plan after this xx.

tiger that's pretty similar to what we did. I had the nk tests done after the NHS ivf but before the FET. We didn't do the immunes until we got to the private clinic, but as the FET was a disaster in terms of what came out of the freezer compared to what went in, I don't think that would have made any difference. Where are you having the nk done? Are you doing bloods or biopsy??

happy when is otd??? Or more to the point when will you pimp?

Thanks for all the hand holding, you're all lovely .

clem don’t beat yourself up about not fitting as much as you’d like to. I only need to hold down a full time job and fit in ranty phone calls to fc staff, and there’s still plenty of other shit I’m not dealing with. I couldn’t imagine what it would be like to have to do degree coursework on top of everything else. What would you like your next steps to be treatment wise?

beaky I’ll be starting tamoxifen from day 2 and menopur from day 3. I won’t need to take anything else to prevent ovulation and just take my usual hcg trigger. Only difficult thing is I’ll need a baseline scan this time, so would have to reschedule my diary to fit this in at the last minute. Well done on the walking, that’s really good. Getting on top of the food stuff is a royal pain in the bum isn’t it? Interesting that you’re thinking about the 3-cycle package now…

ant sending you a paw hold, good luck for testing tomorrow! Everything is still crossed for you. You are made of strong stuff to hold out all this time.

happy thinking of you too and still got everything crossed!

tiger

barking thank you sweetie! Sorry for the not sleeping , hope it’s a good sign, I still remember that bit from the 4 weeks I was pg when I was exhausted all the time. Still hoping with everything I have that the beating bean is getting proper comfy in your stripy palace.

Happy Friday berries!

Just a quick post to wish Ant all the best for tomorrow. Sorry about the spotting. Fingers crossed it doesn't mean anything.

Happy how are you doing? Wishing you all manner of luck for this time around.

Barking glad things are proceeding according to plan! When can you let yourself relax a bit? Is it after 12 weeks? (Or never!!)

Beaky glad you have a plan in the makings. I don't think I could go through another 3 collections anymore, even if I did have the cash. I think the process sapped all my hope. Our embryos just aren't a high enough quality. Think they collected a total of about 35 eggs but didn't achieve anything .

Mind you, I'm enjoying being able to drink (proper) beer and red wine again though. Ooh, and going to bed whenever I like. Just have to not think about what we're missing out on, and we'll be OK.

Smidge would you consider donor egg or adoption at all or is that totally out for you guys? Hope you both are still enjoying England and all of its charms!

Ant everything crossed for you tomorrow, I hope the spotting goes away.

Happy when are you testing? Everything crossed over here for you.

Barking hooray to Internet! Sorry you are still struggling with sleeping, I don't know how you cope, I'm terrible without any sleep. Keeping the positive thoughts coming your way too. I suspect dh had guessed I'd mention the 3 cycles thing, but I need to be realistic, financially and chance of success wise. I don't honestly think I could do another 3 rounds either, I was completely gutted after the last one failed (and was so shit) but I will see what they say on Monday.

Sesame so pleased you are sorted with the new plan and it's a bit of change. How come you don't need Cetrotide for this cycle? Do you have to do all of the scans at the clinic or can you do them at another clinic? What do you make of banking rounds when you have low or anyway? I'm thinking that if I did banking, I might have a max of 5/6 Embryos (if I'm lucky) at the end, and three egg collections to end up with one transfer seems silly really. Iykwim.

Tiger are you chilling at home after a full on first week of work? How's newly married life been?

smidge glad you get to enjoy beer and again. to you too. Do you have any other European trips planned?

beaky tamoxifen blocks the oestrogen receptors in the brain. This means the brain doesn't register the rise in oestrogen levels so it pumps out more natural fsh and should also block the lh surge. I chose to do single cycles rather than a 3 cycle package. It's cost 1600 more so far to do it this way. I figured this meant I could walk away at any point, particularly if I didn't get on with the new fc. Also fresh transfers with low numbers of embryos are meant to have a slight edge (although freeze/thaw success at my fc are supposed to be very good). How do you feel about Monday?

ant any news?

It's a BFN for me but I'm ok with that, these things happen. I was mentally preparing myself yesterday for it and I was woken up at 4:50am with stabbing sharp cramping pain so I knew then. SO... onwards and upwards! Follow up appointment already arranged for 12 May. Me and DH have already had the discussion of trying again and we both said yes. Until the time comes to start again, I am going let my hair down and enjoy myself. He's taking me out to dinner tonight so a bottle of wine is definitely on the cards

Have a lovely weekend everyone, and thank you so much for supporting me throughout my first IVF. I'll definitely be sticking around as its not over yet for me

Just seen your post Sesame!

So so sorry ant!! Take care of yourself as ivf bfn is a horrible shock. Hope you and dh enjoy the

ant so sorry to hear its a bfn make sure you and your dh look after each other xx