Pom Poms, Placards and Picket Lines. The Berries are putting up the barricades and will not be crossed! A delightful bunch of 30 something Ladybros TTC #1.

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The Berries have strict entrance criteria: TTC #1 for 12 months+, over 30, NO instadiffers, must have a special pimping pot and absolutely no mention of baby dust/dancing. Not that we're fussy!

Current Ladybros:

Smidge 39, TTC since Jan '13. Unexplained. Some high NK cell immune treatment. IVF#1 Short protocol Jul'14 BFN; IVF#2 Nov'14 and IVF#3 Feb'15 both Long protocol BFNs; Natural FET Jun'15 - Another BFN. Trying to work out what to do next.



Happylass, 37, TTC since Aug 2012. 3 failed ICSI cycles, 1 failed FET and 1 abandoned cycle due to poor response. Awaiting next and final cycle with own eggs hopefully Feb/March time. HATE THIS SHIT!!



Beaky 35, ttc 3 yrs, 2x failed iui 1 long protocol ivf cancelled, 2 short protocol IVF both BFN, very low amh/poor responder etc. 3rd IVF in January.



Tigerdog, 35, ttc since Jan 2013. Unexplained. IVF #1 chemical pregnancy. Currently redoing tests in preparation for IVF #2.



barkingtreefrog 36, ttc since Dec 2011. clomid bfp summer 2013 then mc @7 weeks, iui bfp summer 2014 then mc @6 weeks. Factor V leiden thrombophilia diagnosed at the repeat mc clinic. IUI bfn Jan 2015, IVF bfn April/May 2015. FET bfn August 2015, remaining frozen embryo perished. Private tests showed high nk cells activity and th1/th2 as well as mthrfr gene. Started downregging for long protocol ivf in Oct 15 plus two intralipid drips, and got pg. Third mc @ 6.4 weeks despite heparin, intralipids, metafolin and prednisolone. Last Ivf attempt starting February 2016 then on to adoption. 



Kuma - 40. TTC 2.9 years. Low AMH high FSH - DH antisperm ABs. Failed IVF June 14 and March 15, cancelled cycle June 15. Last try Jan 16. 



Lucieloos, 36, Low AMH & sperm motility. ICSI#1, April 2015, Czech Republic, BFN. Icsi#2, cancelled before EC. Icsi#3 & 4, Embryo Banking. 3 blasts in freezer. Icsi#5 in Czech in Jan. NHS cycle in Feb / March.




Sesame, 40, ttc 2 years with no dp, multiple failed IVFs, 4 ETs, 1 bfp followed by mc, poor responder with v low AMH, but still looking for the golden egg.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. still in limbo. 



Funkymonk 33. Ttc since October 2012. Mc June 2013, Mmc dec 2013, mc June 2014. Factor v Leiden thrombophilia. Abandoned IVF Jan 2015 due to thin lining. Abandoned FET Aug 2015 due to thin lining. 4 embies on ice. Currently experimenting with different cycles in an attempt to thicken lining.

Clem, 39, ttc since 2013. diagnosed with anovulation by nhs so on a course of clomid. no male factor issues. all other test results have come back okay inc. ovarian test reserves. currently being referred back to nhs for single funded cycle.

Nolly, 33, TTC 3 years, 1 confirmed MC, 2 more suspected. Starting IVF in January.



Antonia79 36, ttc #1 since 2009, adhesions made for sticky insides & one tube removed, confirmed NHS IVF route Sept 15, TTC naturally again as recommended by doctor until IVF cycle starts (early - mid 2016) if not conceived by then.



Grin - 35, TTC 3 years, NFI why I can't get pregnant,, 3 X failed clomid attemots, 2 X ICSI failed fertilisations, 1 x IVF BFN. Doing another cycle in Mar 2016 and thinking of embryo donation.



The Roll of honour:

Pip - Quite simply the Best In Show.
Lumen - The Legend that is....

How are you beaky? Hope you're doing ok.

Ant glad the itching is getting better, hope the 2ww is going ok otherwise.

Happy good luck for your fet tomorrow, that's come round so fast!

Sesame mfp depresses me no end. That sounds good protein wise so far! Have you tried making those egg muffins? It's just egg and whatever else you want to add in, I usually add a bit of bacon, cheese and spinach, sometimes tomato and onion too. Like a premade omelette but a muffin, I suppose.

Tiger glad you are having a lovely time on honeymoon, and are making the most of drinking ALL the wine! I think you need to see someone who takes immunes seriously and get your tests done for that. Zita West has a mixed reputation from what I've seen on various threads, but overall I've always thought they sound like a good clinic. Would you have a consultation there? Did you book a private consultation at your clinic yet?

I start the new job in May, really looking forward to it but I think it'll be tricky to be able to do any ivf for a while now. I haven't made any plans really and time is getting on but I feel like I can't stay in my current job just to do ivf. Also I'm so skint, I can't afford it. I think I'm having unintentional time out!

It's very quiet in here, I wonder if we have any lurkers that want to join??

Morning Ladybros. Congrats on being PUPO Ant. Everything firmly crossed for you. Having Frosties from a cycle is, unfortunately, the exception rather than the rule but so lovely that the embryologist was apologetic.
Mrs Tiger I hope you're having a fantabulous honeymoon!
Beaky some time out, even if unintentional, sounds like a very good idea. Hopefully the new job will provide a welcome distraction.
Ladies feel free to add me on MFP. My username is happylass14. I used to use it regularly and I'm want to get back in to it. I find it a bit of a ballache since I've started clean eating though as I cook a lot more from scratch.
Thanks for the well wishes. Here's hoping that at least 1 of our 3 Frosties survives the thaw so that all the pill popping and fanny candling hasn't been in vain!! Have a good day all.

Good luck Happy what time is transfer? I've added you on MFP, does anyone else want to join in?

happy good luck for ET! I also cook a lot from scratch and eat a lot of salads and mfp is a proper pain in the backside about these things. I also end up exceeding my allowance when adding up all my veg individually, although I’m not convinced my body can access all of these calories. I haven’t got to grips with the social aspects of mfp, should I do something about that…?

tiger glad you had a lovely time and you are having a lovely relaxing honeymoon! My breakfast was porridge made with milk, with natural yoghurt and berries, and a boiled egg. I also had a couple of milky teas and a small glass of milk. All that kept me full for a good few hours. I don’t really know anything about Zita west. I know she offers quite a bit of woo a holistic approach, which you might like, so perhaps might be worth exploring?

ant glad your rash has gone down. Do you plan to test early, or wait till OTD?

beaky Glad you got a date for the new job. Time out is a good thing. I’m sure if/when you are ready to go again, you would be able to find the time and money. I haven’t heard of egg muffins – does that just involve baking the egg mixture in a muffin mold? That actually sounds quite nice. I don’t own a muffin mold, but I think I do have some ramekins somewhere… . Good idea to welcome any lurkers! I created a mn account for the sole purpose of joining this thread and commenting on random make up threads in style and beauty, and I’ve never looked back…

Evening Ladybros. ET was lunchtime. All very straightforward though these were the poorest quality yet. So PUPO take 6. FFS!
Beaky thanks for the add on MFP. Not the best day for me to resume food logging as I was in a bit of a mood after leaving the FC (DH was being a right arse ) so I went to the lovely market stall that does veggie Scotch Eggs and other such delights then on to Starbucks, then had some ludicrously expensive clean chocolate
Sesame I usually make these little egg muffins
hedihearts.com/egg-muffins/
but I also plan to try these soon as they look nice www.superhealthykids.com/quick-quinoa-crusted-quiche-recipe/
Also if you like a bit of make up chat check out the MrsGloss&TheGoss FB group. Though I warn you've I've spent a fortune since joining!

Hey ladybros.
I typed out a massive reply to everyone the other day and then my neighbour's Internet went down before I could post it. Plusnet have failed to connect us a month after we moved in and it didn't look hopeful they would manage it any time soon so we've ditched them and started the process again with talktalk....

So I'm caning all my data and can't hang around long, just wanted to say Whoop! to the PUPO ladies, happy and ant
happy did you go single or double?

And congrats MrsT!!!!

Woo pupo Happy fingers crossed over here! Those are the egg muffins I make too I've not updated mfp today as been out for dinner Sesame Do you want to me to add you? I've made a bit of progress today and contacted two clinics, woo get me at the prices though.

Sorry Barking x post, best of berry luck to you for tomorrow. How annoying about your internet though!

Congratulations MrsTiger! About the itchiness towards the end of a cycle, thinking back, that also happens to me. No idea why I've not connected it before but yes, attack of the scratches and it's sometimes really annoying! Hope you're enjoying your lovely honeymoon! Can you have a couple of glasses of wine for me as well please?

Good luck on your new job in May Beaky! The unintentional timeout might be just what you need, at least have lots of me time and enjoy the new challenges the job brings... for a bit anyway! Itchiness has definitely gone down. I swear I would've been quite happy to scratch all the way down to the bone on Monday. It was bloody horrible!

Congratulations on PUPO Happy! I wasn't sure what the success is of frozen embies so now knowing its more of an exception than the rule helps a lot. Keeping my fingers crossed for your little embies!

Sesame, so am I, the rash itch was driving me crackers!

Waves to everyone else - How are you all?

I think I'm going to wait and test on otd. It just means for me I can dream about it being a happy ending for a little bit longer as I really don't know how I'm going to react if it's a bfn. That's a bit scary because I'm usually really good with handling bad news but this... I don't know. Also otd is a Saturday and if needs be I can hide from the world for a whole weekend if I need it. I got 9 days until otd so I may change my mind nearer the time

happy hooray for being pupo! C’mon embies, time to burrow in and get comfy in the happy palace! Veggie Scotch eggs and clean chocolate sound excellent fuel for implantation. Ta for the egg muffin link, I’ll definitely try them. I also like that I get to eat 2 in a portion greedy! I did konmari on my entire flat last year, but still managed to hang on to a ridiculous amount of make-up and nail polish I convinced myself brings me joy even though I just use the same stuff every day and don’t really go on nights out anymore. These days I try really hard not to be tempted by new stuff. Although I did get some free lipsticks from mac from years-worth of empty packaging, courtesy of their recycling scheme.

barking thinking of you and good luck for your scan! Hope you get your internet sorted, what a bloody pain that sounds.

happy will pm you my mfp name, might as well give it a try… So glad, to hear you’re getting stuck in again with the fc business. I have to get my finger out and contact my fc about my wtf, as I don’t want to panic all over when my next af comes….

ant sounds like you have some good resolve to get to otd. How are you getting on with all those 2ww distractions?

Happy Saturday everyone! Its forecast for snow here this weekend, so far, nothing

How is everyone?
Ant Happy how is pupo land?
Barking thinking of you and your little embie, hope everything is ok atm

Tiger how are you? How was the honeymoon? Is new job this week? Sesame have you sorted your follow up? I'm going to bite the bullet and book that consultation I think...
Clem Forty how are you both?

Eee scrap that, it's snowing!!

how's pupo-land happy and ant? hope you are finding lots of things to distract yourself with.

ant how's your itchiness now? has it subsided? weirdly, all the ivf meds, seemed to clear up my spots and eczema a treat...now I am off them, its all back ...sorry that doesn't help you, just make sure you mention it too your fc if it gets worse.

seasame your talk about mfp made me remember that I'd setup an account 10 months ago (I never did get into logging my food)...cause I couldn't stop myself, I logged in this week, and I've put on a stone in 10 months... not happy. really need to shift this weight.

mrstiger how's wedded bliss treating you? hope you had a lovely honeymoon.

beaky congratulations on the new job. looks like I may be changing jobs fairly soon too, but we can't put ivf on hold...sure that will go down like a lead balloon, once I start there.

barking thinking of you, hope all is going okay...and hope you are enjoying your snow.

happy I'd really like to get into mfp, but don't really know where to start, as want to make sure its accurate, if I'm going to start monitoring it all. I get the "feeling" that we are eating unhealthily, guess I'd like to do this, to prove it.

ant I waited and tested on otd date too...it was difficult in those last few days, but its definatley doable.

am finding I've been quite down/stressy over the last week (dh is loving that). I think its just a follow on from our bfn. I had to pop to the fc last week, to collect some supplements...didn't occur to me that it may get to me, but being back at where it didn't work, got to me. and add to this, I'm finding this trying to eat clean really quite hard. I'm not a natural cook at all (not very inventive/creative when it comes to recipes), and we had (for the past few years) got into the slump of eating out of the freezer, for most of our meals (not ready meals, just frozen meat like birdseye/chips...etc). also, trying to find food that my very picky with food/loves his carbs dh will not turn his nose up at is proving challenging. sure this sounds lame, but its where I'm at, at the moment.

sorry, that was a load, and all a bit moany

Hey Happy look what I found in a museum in Amsterdam this weekend...

The berry charabanc!

Love it...I think that should be the only mode of transport for us berries, from now on.

I woke up to snow here on Saturday beaky! It disappeared quite quickly, but it's still very cold indeed but lovely and sunny. I'm ok, back to reality. Honeymoon (albeit brief!) was lovely, relaxing and fun. We ate and drank loads, great walks, and as Mr T put it, we reclaimed our sex life from the medical profession I'm sure you wanted to know that . New job starts tomorrow, first day I've got to trek over to Lincolnshire, and London later in the week. Once I've got my kit and met my project clients, I should be working from home a fair bit.

I think a bit of timeout is good. A couple of months isn't make or break. I suspect that mat leave entitlement only kicks in at my new job after 6 months (at least that's what it was in my last job) so financially a break would make sense for me too. I also can't see myself having my FET until I've had more testing. Going to look at clinics and weigh up options for either immune testing and/or treatment. Got a lovely welcome home bill from the FC for the freezing/storage of our embryos - they didn't make it clear that it wasn't part of the NHS funding! Haven't thought about it much for a couple of weeks, so this week I'll start thinking about the plan. Funds are low so we'll need to work out what is affordable too. Glad you're getting there with choosing the new FC.

I need to konmari sesame. My life feels a bit taken over by stuff after the wedding. Now the craziness is over I keep looking at all the things I bought and wondering what possessed me!! I have already had an enquiry from someone about some of the wedding bits though, and a quiet weekend at some point spent ebaying it all, should mean it ends up being used again. Hmm, as much as I like the woo, I do feel a bit dubious about Zita West. Was also looking at Dr Gorgy. The costs of the tests are eye watering. I think I'll do the NK biopsy at professor quenby's research clinic too, but it has to be after two cycles post IVF.

barking I hope you're doing ok. Have been thinking of you loads. When's the next scan? Hope you get your internet soon!

antonia, I'm keeping everything crossed for you. I found the last few days pretty hard,

smidge you found the charabanc! Amazing. I was going to ask you if you'd planned any Europe trips, but sounds like you've already made your first one. Where else might you visit? We've got Croatia in June, plus Whitby and Holland planned in.

happy how are you doing? Did you have two put back? Did you go for the drip in the end? Fingers crossed for you.

Don't be too hard on yourself clem, I think it's only natural to find the post bfn hard. What does your DH like food wise? Can you get him to give you a few key things and you build some meals around them? I love cooking, and I'm lucky that DH eats anything, so he'll tolerate some rather experimental meals. I also give him more carbs and myself more protein when dishing out the food, so he doesn't starve! I think you need to find a recipe book or meal plan you like and go from there - it takes practice to be able to make meals up!

I definitely need to get back on the healthy eating - I've been so unhealthy for the last two weeks, too much wine and ice-cream! Managed yoga this morning and planning on going at least twice a week. Will try couch to 5k again too, now that the days are longer.

Good luck for your first day of the new job tiger, you sound like you might need a charabanc to get around So pleased you enjoyed your honeymoon and also that MrT clearly did too I'm surprised that storage isn't included on your NHS entitlement, who knows with clinics mind, they seem to add charges on as and when they want. I think you can get immunes cheaper in Prague/Europe if you wanted to look into that - did you get your level 1s done via your GP?

Clem it takes time and planning to get a few recipes under your belt but I'd look for some easy things like home made curry and chilli etc which are really easy and quick. My argument for healthy eating with dh was that if we do have kids, he has to eat properly then as they would need to. He's not too bad to be fair but I wish he would eat more stir fry/veggie type meals.

Smidge hope you've enjoyed your mini break! Do you have any more trips planned?

Barking how are you? Is the next scan tomorrow? Everything crossed over here.

Happy and Ant keeping everything crossed for our pupo berries.

Hope everyone has had a good weekend.

Sesame the 2ww distraction of scanning photos has been put aside. We've been binge watching all three Stargate series and finished them all! Just started watching Breaking Bad. Netflix has been an excellent way of distracting me. During the weekday I'm working from home so plenty of destructions so far

Morning Clem, Beaky, Happy and MrsTiger!

Pupo land seems to be the same as none pupo land, as in I feel normal! I'm not sure what to expect as never been pupo before. I'm trying not to worry about it too much so I'm just bumbling along as normal It's now 9dp4det. 5 days until otd

Distractions, not distructions! My phone autocorrects to distructions haha!

beaky, we had random snow showers over here too! Did you manage to book any of those initial consult appointments? Is Czech still in the game, or have you excluded that option?

clem feel free to pm me if you want to add me on mfp, happy and beaky are there too. I’m still trying to get the hang of it myself to be honest. If you’re trying to get into cooking from scratch then maybe start by trying to replicate some of the dishes you enjoy when you’re eating out, maybe google some recipes or blogs. I also choose recipes with fewer ingredients, that way I don’t have to go through the faff of trying to shop for long lists of things I don’t already have in the house. You can also start with basics like pasta sauces, casseroles and soups which are all fairly easy and you can freeze leftovers to create your own healthy ready meals.

smidge love the berry charabanc! And I’m impressed that there’s even space for the berry pets too!

tiger glad you had a lovely honeymoon! Good luck for your new job! Hope the first day went well. How that your fc didn’t tell you about the freezing bill, that’s mean of them not to include in the NHS round. I can totally recommend konmari, it’s life changing really. I didn’t quite make it to the end of the process, as I never finished sentimental and photos, but I’m still mega impressed that over a year later all the categories I’ve tidied have stayed that way.

barking good luck for your next scan!

ant glad you’ve found plenty of destructions… Getting on with everything as normal sounds great and it sounds like your mind is in a good space right now.

I have booked my wtf for this Thursday. Still trying to think about what I want to ask, and whether I can use it to convince my fc to do anything different. I’m not entirely happy that some of the things I spoke about last time round didn’t materialise as I ended up seeing a different person at my first scan appointment, who was reluctant to change anything. So I’ll have to ask about that.

Oooh good find Smidge. I was wondering where that pesky charabanc had got to.
Welcome back Tiger. Hope you had a lovely honeymoon and the post wedding blues aren't getting you down too much.
Ant I hope the 2ww is passing quickly for you.
Clem feel free to add me on MFP too. I'm happylass14. I started back really well with the logging last week but I've kind of lost the plot over the weekend due to being dragged to Harvester by the outlaws then going to a food festival on Sunday. I agree that you should aim to keep the cooking simple. Do you have a slow cooker? I get most of my recipe ideas from FB groups or MN. My DH turns his nose up at most of the veggie/clean food I cook but it's either eat that or cook for himself. He chooses the former
Yes we had 2 put back Tiger, which means we have just the one Frostie left. Unfortunately I just didn't have time to fit the intralipids in due to the Easter hols then us going away. I know I'll kick myself for not having it done if/when this doesn't work out but I guess there's always next time. As for being PUPO I haven't really thought about it too much. On Saturday there was a Kangoo Jump class starting near me. I've been meaning to go for a while and I actually got dressed ready to go before I suddenly realised its probably not the best thing to be doing!!
Ugh I just logged on to FB to see a birth announcement plus photo from my ex. It really knocked me sideways, mainly because I didn't even know they were pg. I cope with these things far better if I'm forewarned. I so wanted to comment 'ah just feck off' but probably not appropriate!!

clem please give yourself a break . I was devastated after our first ivf failed. After getting bfps on clomid then iui, even after further clomid/iui was unsuccessful I figured we would be fine on ivf, it was just the hanging onto it that would be tricky, and when we didn't even get a bfp I was utterly devastated. It took me ages to get over it, being a little bit moany is nowt!!

smidge the berry charabanc is AWESOME!!!!!!!

tiger how was the first day of the new job?

beaky we had snow here too at the weekend briefly - DH got stuck in it driving and had to take some air out of the tires to get going!!!

Sesame I saw a fb thing on konmari. Something along the lines of 'I held everything and threw out anything that didn't make me happy. So far I've got rid of all the bills and the vegetables'.
I did a hell of a decluttering operation when I moved, but I still need to go through photos and pictures. DH didn't want me to put up all my various bits of art collected when traveling to different places as they didn't mean anything to 'us' and to be fair, 80% of what was on the walls in the last house was from trips I'd done before I met him (on my own). It's left us with lots of big frames though, so now I want to fill them with something else!!

Antonia sending berry strength, it gets harder to wait the closer you get.... Keep going on the destruction

Well, I had some good news today. We saw a heartbeat. Still early days, and the following two weeks is the danger period where we lost the previous three, so not relaxing just yet, but very happy to be where we are. Where I am, anyway. DH is still refusing to say anything other than 'Let's not get our hopes up yet.'
Given our history they are scanning again in 11 days, although they usually wouldn't once they'd seen a heartbeat.

Still no sodding Internet at home, but having ditched plusnet as a bad job, we're hoping talktalk can get us connected by the end of the week.... So I'm going to be lurking again until then to see if antonia caves and pimps early as I'm running out of data again despite buying a bolt on...

Xpost happy as it took me so long to post the reply I typed earlier!
So sorry about the ex, must have been a real kick in the teeth.
If you wanted an intralipid, could you not have one now? I've been having them every 4 weeks.

Barking would it have any impact if I had it now? I thought it had to be. 1-2 weeks before ET? I'm 6dp5dt.