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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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TTC for 10 months and the rest. Ten plussers welcome. Thread 2.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 11:21

We have been so busy chatting I've started a new thread. Welcome all 10+ ladies. Hope we all have some luck on this thread.

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loopylou1984 · 07/10/2015 12:10

Place marking

Trixielilac11 · 07/10/2015 12:13

Place marking too!

Stace2015 · 07/10/2015 13:38

Hey hey! Id like to join also, been 2 years for me..

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 13:39

Hi stace! Have you had any tests or anything? I'm in the middle of IVF due to have egg collection on Friday. We already have 2 embryos frozen but trying to get some more before transfer.

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loopylou1984 · 07/10/2015 15:08

Hi stace - welcome. The ladies here are lovely, and this is a lucky thread this time. I've decided. X

Stace2015 · 07/10/2015 15:36

Hey lucieloos yes we are currently waiting on our appointments! My husband has a semen analysis booked in for Monday and i have my ovulation bloods booked in for Wednesday.. Do you know what the process would be after this? If they will refer us on etc?

Good luck with the IVF, hope you get your wish! :)

Hey sammylou1 i need all the luck i can get! haha. Just received pressed in the post today so gonna give that a try too this month, my fertile window is from tomorrow. Fingers crossed ay! Whats your story :)

loopylou1984 · 07/10/2015 15:42

We are two years ttc, had a private IVF in July which was abandoned after egg collection due to OHSS. We have literally found us this morning that our current frozen cycle is also being abandoned so I'm feeling pretty low right now.

We have 5 blastocysts in the freezer so will be having one of those replaced in a natural cycle next month... Well once af arrives anyway. Xx

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 15:43

Yes if there is a problem with your results they should refer you on to the NHS waiting list for IVF and then it depends how long the list is in your area. The wait for me on NHS is around 2 years which is too long at my age so we are having private treatment abroad where it's a lot cheaper.

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Stace2015 · 07/10/2015 15:55

sammylou1 i'm sorry to hear that, must have been quiet devastating after getting your hopes up etc. Really hope it works out for you.. and us all! Fingers crossed for this month!

lucieloos wow 2 years! Confused that is a very long time! Really hoping it doesn't get to that for us as i dont think i could wait that long! When you have your heart set on something you want it as soon as! How much is the IVF you are having abroad?

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 16:19

You can check online how long the wait is in your area. We were looking at paying around £5k for IVF with ICSI in the uk whereas abroad we are paying only £1500. The drugs are cheaper too and then we pay around £150-£400 for flights and accommodation depending on how long we are going for. This time I'm only going for a night so probably around £150 in total.

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Stace2015 · 07/10/2015 16:26

The measures couples need to go to to conceive is really sad! Really wish you the best though hun

Where online would i check about the IVF waiting time?

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 17:03

What county do you live in? You need to look up the clinical commissioning group policy for whichever county and it will tell you how many NHS attempts you are entitled to and the length of time you can expect to wait.

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Stace2015 · 07/10/2015 17:07

Im in UK, London.. Sounds quiet confusing to me! Confused

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 17:41

I think the majority of boroughs in London offer only one treatment on the NHS unless you are lucky enough to live in Camden who offer 3. I think the waiting time is 6 months +

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Trixielilac11 · 07/10/2015 18:13

Hi and welcome Stace, I'm in London too and approaching the 2 year ttc mark.

Lucie, we have 5 embryos left. I think our plan is to ask to have Nk cells checked and poss laparoscopy and we were going to go on the nhs waiting list as we are entitled to one cycle. I'm sure my GP said you can go on the waiting list after 2 years but online in says 3....I can't find details of how long waiting list is. If we have one more FET we become ineligible for any NHS treatment. I can't believe your waiting list is 2 years, I was thinking waiting list may be about 6 months. Maybe we will do a natural FET with 2 embryos in the new year. Just feel so fed up with it all at the moment.

Sammy hopefully we have left the bad luck on the other thread and we all get our BFP's on this one. I went to the shop earlier to get some wine and the guy asked if I was old enough. I said I am old enough to have a child who can buy alcohol - depressing.

loopylou1984 · 07/10/2015 18:27

Trixie - there's a compliment in there though, and good shout on the wine. I wish I could join you but am not feeling well enough for alcohol yet.

We're in Kent, and you have to have been trying two years before referral, but once referred the nhs waiting list at our clinic is only 4 weeks... Of course it depends how long it takes the nhs to send the referral letter, so far it's been 2 weeks. Xx

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 18:39

I think it depends if they find something wrong when they do the investigations as to how quickly you can be referred. My Dh has low sperm motility and I have a low amh and there was no problem with us being referred straight away. This was probably after a year of trying. We may possibly get our initial consultation in January from what they said the last time I rang to check but there will be a further wait after that for any treatment. I'm hoping that by then I will have already got a bfp and can tell them I don't need it!

Trixie good idea with the nk cells, I would be having that too if my clinic hadn't already said that I could have the treatment without the testing. I'm also going for the hysteroscopy. What's the difference between that and the laparoscopy?

Hope you are ok, 5 frozen embryos is still a brilliant number and I'm still really confident you will have at least a couple of good ones in there.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 19:02

Also trixie do you have to tell the NHS about your private treatment? I will only tell them about one of my private rounds which means that I will still be entitled to two full attempts on NHS. I would be tempted to continue with fets if it's financially viable and tell them you have only done two. Your private medical records are not passed to NHS.

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Trixielilac11 · 07/10/2015 19:43

I'm not sure Lucie, I thought they were pretty much the same thing. I filled out forms for NHS referral and it asked about previous treatment. At the time we were getting ready for our fresh cycle and when I phoned to make appointments for initial investigations and mentioned the private IVF (I probably should have kept quiet) they said that we had to have finished treatment privately before we could start with NHS process....We are lucky (thanks to DH) that we can afford to have another FET if it comes to it.

Need to arrange our follow up at our clinic, tbh when I have mentioned NK cells before they have just said that even if it was positive they would just prescribe prednisone which they prescribe anyway. Going to insist on it this time though. Want to rule out implantation problems before Xmas ideally and get on the NHS waiting list.

Pikz · 07/10/2015 19:52

The difference between a lap and a hys is that a hys is investigative only usually and they don't treat much with it, only small things. A lap is more invasive but they can operate more and also usually combine it with a dye treatment and they can see more with it.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 20:01

Trixie if you do have high nk cells you should really look into intralipids as well. A lot of clinics do them now and even my uk clinic has agreed to do them for me there if necessary. It an intravenous infusion which is meant to lower immune system.

Pikz, I am having a hyst but am having an operative one so that they can remove any fibroids, polyps, scar tissue etc at the same time.

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Trixielilac11 · 07/10/2015 20:46

Thanks for explaining Pikz.
Lucie my clinic have intralipids on their price list so they must use them sometimes.

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lucieloos · 07/10/2015 21:22

Yes definitely trixie a lot of people use them nowadays even like me just as a precaution. It's worth asking about.

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loopylou1984 · 08/10/2015 11:21

Trixie - how are you doing today? Hope you're being looked after? Do you have a follow up appointment with your clinic? Xx

Trixielilac11 · 08/10/2015 11:43

Hi Sammy! So funny, I was just coming on here to ask you how you are doing? I'm up and down really and still don't think it's all sunk in. DH is absolutely gutted which is hard to see. I feel bad for getting his hopes up.

The doctors at my clinic have a meeting to discuss my cycle and will then contact me to arrange a follow up. Have started preparing a list of questions, helps to do something practical.

I took this morning off as holiday as I had a random half day to use up but have to go in this afternoon as have appointments. Will probably be good to take my mind off things.

On the plus side (though is making me very emotional) I have become an Aunt. A bit ahead of time I have a gorgeous niece.