TTC with PCOS (Thread #3)

[RoseBud2015]

If you have been diagnosed with PCOS and would like a small group of very friendly ladies in the same position as you to talk to, then this is the thread for you!

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Hellooooooo! Just checking in to see how you're all doing

A big fat welcome to all newbies . You are in good company. This lot have got me through some tough times.

So, banana, you're a frickin legend for getting through the IVF cycle and not totally losing your shit when it didn't end up being able to be completed. Your positive attitude to everything that is thrown at you is just amazing.

Rosebud our wonderful thread master... Gutted for you. Chin up lovely

Mistletoe Eeeeek!!!! How exciting!!! Congrats and hoorah for clomid!

AFM: Had my post-mc WTF cycle which lasted forever... then, after only stopping bleeding for about two weeks, I got the next AF on CD34 It's been proper dodgy though... v v light then stupidly heavy (leaked overnight ). I've been a prize bitch to DH though (v unusual, I promise ) and my skin is so, so bad. Very much looking forward to seeing my amazeballs consultant in 10 days. 2 months of the ttc ban down; 1 to go!

Stay sane ladies.

mistletoe this is just the BEST news! So so so happy for you and your DP. I am breaking open the virtual party poppers at this end! Fan-bloody-tastic news

Feefee hurrah for AF! New cycle means new hope (if that doesn’t sound too Star Wars!). I also get pissed off at the sideways glances when I’m not drinking, as people clearly think I’m pregnant. Now we’re doing IVF I tell them, but beforehand, I was half tempted to say ‘Sorry, I’m on antibiotics for a raging dose of the clap!’ just to stop the knowing smirks!

Will see what the consultant says, but I think we’re probably going to aim to go ahead with the FET. It’s likely that the soonest we’d be able to do a fresh stims cycle would be Jan/Feb, whether or not we skip the FET or not. So might as well get the BFN over with before Xmas and can then look forward to prepping for our next fresh cycle in the new year.

If by some amazing ridiculous miracle it did work first time, and that means we forfeit our chance at trying to get something for the freezer for a sibling, well, just being able to have the chance to be parents would be a dream come true. I can’t even dare to think lightning would even strike once for us, let alone twice.

sunday welcome! I’m so sorry about your MMC, can’t imagine how devastating that must be. First natural AF is awesome news though - as I said above, new cycle means new hope

chandelier so so lovely to hear from you. You’ve been and are being so incredibly strong - and my god, your body has been through so much, I’m sure it’s only natural for your cycles to be more than a little wonky. Wacky hormones do mad things to, well, everything. I can honestly say I’ve never had such bad acne as while I was stimming - it was like the 8th wonder of the world, DH said he could practically see them popping up before his eyes. It’s also only natural to be somewhat, er, emotionally volatile given everything you’ve been through, so I reckon you def get a free pass!

Keeping everything crossable crossed for you when you see your consultant - (s)he sounds terrific, makes all the difference when you can really connect with and trust your doctor. Looking forward to the next instalment and only good things from now on!

You’re very kind, but I don’t feel very positive. My poor DH is dealing with hormonal stroppy mare from hell at the moment, as my post retrieval withdrawal AF has arrived, and I’m an emotional wreck. I have most definitely lost my shit and incessantly googling anything and everything about frozen eggs, thin lining, FET protocols, planning for my next stims cycle, and generally having to talk myself down from the edge.

Stay sane indeed!! Big hugs to you all, and esp thanks for putting up with my epic rambles. You ladies are very much helping me stay (vaguely) sane, and for that I thank you all from the bottom of my heart xxx

chandelier I thought I was doing well at keeping my shit together after my mc but had a massive hormone crash about 3 weeks after. Cue lots of crying and lost it at work one day, fortunately I have some amazing colleagues.

banana it really annoys me when people talk about how many kids they want and their preferred age gap. I can honestly say now that I would be happy with just one. Hoping you can ride out the hormone storm and come out the other side soon

Welcome ComeOn Sorry I didn't welcome you when I was last on here- I was having a complete meltdown! When did you start TTC? Are you trying for #1? Well done on the weight loss- that's amazing! Keep going!

And welcome Women! Which app are you planning to use to chart your temps? I use FF and I can strongly recommend it! How old are you?

Mistletoe CONGRATULATIONS! Defo a BFP!!!!!! So happy for you- it has been a long time coming! Was this your 6th cycle of clomid? How many times did you take 100mg? When you say you "felt pregnant since Tues" can you describe what you mean?! I would love to know! Maybe it will calm down my ridiculous symptom spotting pre-AF!

MrsC Woop for the EWCM! Did you make the most of it this wkend?

Banana I really hope that AF of yours comes soon! The grumpy emotional mess that us women become prior to AF arriving is the worst!! I am also very much in that stage myself at the mo A FET for you before Xmas would be a great step forward- when will you know it this is the definite plan or not? x

Fee Thanks lovely! Well I ov'ed on my own this cycle so I'm going to see if I can do it again next cycle without the Femara. I have the prescription if I need it but would prefer to do it all my myself if possible! I think my IVF protocol will be through in the next couple of weeks so doubt I will use the Femara in the end, but it's nice knowing its there just in case!
BIG WOOP for AF! I had a weird two part AFs like you are describing when I was on clomid! Very light and on-off for only 2 days but it still counts! Don't give up on phoning for cancellations- took me almost 3 weeks of daily phone calls this time around but I got there in the end Wear them down slowly x

Welcome Sunday! You definitely fit with us!!! I would love to know your full age! I'm so sorry to hear about your mmc- that must have been such an awful time for you both Woop for AFs arrival! That is a loooooong time coming for you. Do you plan to start the clomid now or are you hoping to conceive naturally again? It's great news that you managed to conceive naturally before!!

Chandelier Hello my lovely! So good to see you again. You are doing amazingly well! It's great news that your last AF turned up on cd34- definitely a positive step in the right direction. It's entirely understandable that your emotions are still a bit crazy- try not to beat yourself up over it, DH will get over it
Do you have any sense of what your consultant will suggest next for you? Let me know what you would prefer for me to do in relation to your stats (when you're ready) I didn't want to do anything without asking you first xxx

sunday Glad to hear you have support at work. My boss has made me back my Annual Leave from when I was hospitalised over the summer, so I've got I've got a week off in line with half term feel like I need it too! and am really looking forward to some down time. I'm very blessed; I have two DCs already. If it doesn't happen again for us, I'll be gutted, but can certainly count my not so little anymore blessings.

banana Bless you love. and a bit fat on the cheek.

made me take back my AL... Doh!

AFM- Thanks all for your amazing messages of support and understanding! You brought a tear to my eye!
So after the BFN on Fri morn, the streak of bright red blood when I wiped, and the complete meltdown; I was convinced AF was here! However- nothing since. I've still got some brown spotting and cramping so I'm sure she isn't far away but this cycle hasn't officially ended quite yet...... so annoying. Could really do with moving on now! The sense of failure that I am feeling at the mo is more than a little concerning, and completely out of character.

I still haven't received my AMH result which is delaying my IVF protocol. I'm really hoping it arrives next week so I can get going, but it looks like I'm going to have to wait until the end of November now as I wont have the IVF meds in time for the start of next cycle (AF is likely to arrive properly today or tomorrow based on these cramps!)

On a positive note- I think this could be a 32-33 day NATURAL cycle- my first one EVER! Go me!

Apologies for not catching up properly but wanted to answer some of the questions that have been asked...
I can't explain why I knew, we'll probably not very well, as I've already got DD a few things were the same.
I cried watching corrie which was a big hint. I also had definite implantation pain, again I had it with DD and it was very similar.
My symptoms are also different to AF.
When AF is going to appear I get sore boobs but with BFP they were tingling.
I've had a lot of stabbing and pinching pains whereas AF is a cramp.
I've now reached the point of sickness and dry heaving too, so that's great fun!
I got a postive on a digatal this morning, whereas two days ago it was negative so I must be heading in the right direction.
Hopefully I can get in at the doctors tomorrow.
Yes it was my 6th and final cycle and we were literally praying for it to happen because the next step was injections and I really didn't want that. And I probably should say this cycle has also been unmonitored so I have no idea how many follicles I produced, all I know it my progestrone levels were a lot higher at day 21 (well 24 for me) than they have been any other month.
It was my 5th cycle on 100mg and the only thing that was different was us using concieve plus, whether that was the reason we caught (i don't like that phrase) i don't know but it was worth the eight quid either way. Oh and DP also took a multi vitamin which was zinc and vitamin c but I'm not sure it was taken long enough to have any effect on the swimmers.
We threw everything we had at it this month.
It just has to be a sticky one now because I'm not sure I could cope with much more. It's been a long, hard and very testing year for us and one I don't want to have to relive but I'm so happy with how close we are to the end goal.

This thread and all you lovely ladies have been such a help and an inspiration

Oh and my nipples are huge and dark and I haven't pooped in about 4 days!

Yay Rosebud, a 33 day cycle is bloody good! I am 31 BTW, I know you like your stats . My gp has re referred me to fertility clinic and seems to think I can pick up from where I left off regarding clomid. I'm not so sure what consultant will suggest given I've had a period now too. Just got 2 weeks to wait until appointment, will prob need up to date bloods and ultrasound anyway so I've got a month or so to have a last go at a natural positive before clomid. I'm very grateful for all the info I've read on this thread already, thanks for the warm welcome!

chandelier you are amazing its lovely to have you back on here.

Mistletoe thats just soo brilliant I am made up for you. Love it when we get some good news. Makes all the heartache a bit easier to deal with.

Hi Rose thanks for the welcome. I'm 25, got pregnant with my DS at 22 had him at 23. I'm currently using the fertility friend app and the kindara fertility tracker. Only been temping and tracking for 3 days now and it still doesn't make any sense to me! My temps seem to be all over the place and I've been on my AF since having my implant removed!

Thank you for the warm welcome everyone :) and thank you for the weight loss comments. I have fat fighters tonight and am hoping for a decent loss to get my bmi under the 35 mark as that's the cut off for most private clinics. Plus I really want it to get under 30 by next summer which would put me on track! At least them no one can blame my weight anymore! I am 31 and have been ttc #1 for 11 months now. 11 long worrisome panicky stress shitty months. Since taking the metformin my skin is looking delightfully spotty! Jaw, chest, back, one on my lip!? and neck...........I am sooo sexy right now!!

mistletoe congratulations! Lovely news so chuffed for you! Hope you have a happy and healthy pregnancy.

sunday so sorry to hear of your loss. and wooop for AF. Sounds like your body has rebooted itself.

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Morning everyone! So I've bee. Tracking my temperature for 6 days now and my fertility friend app says that my temperature fluctuations appear to be on the high side but aren't indication ovulation has anybody else found this? Is it because some days I do it at 5am when I wake up for for and on the days I'm not working I do it about 7am or does it not matter as in still doing it as soon as I wake up before I get out of bed? Is it purely because of my PCOS? Thanks in advance

teabags hi! You need to take your temperature at the same time everyday - this will be why you have such fluctuations. If you don't want to miss the days you're not working, you'll have to set your alarm for 5am but it's just one of those things. Hope that helps!

Hi all! So I'm officially in the wars - have been on my doxycycline and for the last 3 days have been vomiting, nauseous etc. finally went to the doctor today and she has been insisting that I'm pregnant! Of course I'm not and I've told her that I had 3 progesterone tests this month but she's insisted on doing a blood test. Sigh. Talk about rubbing it in. Meanwhile I've had to stop the tablets so god knows what happens next. Have signed myself off work for the rest of the week so I don't retch on someone to get better. Never a dull moment!

Stealth had a similar with my gp when I went with diarrhoea. She insisted it was a sign of early pregnancy but then refused medication when I tested negative as I'm ttc! Pointless. Can they give you an alternative to doxycycline?

I'm a shift worker women so don't bother with bbt, there's no way I'm sacrificing sleep for temping!

Oh stealth feel better soon! I’m confused about why they’re refusing doxy while TTC. In IVF it’s sometimes prescribed during a cycle as part of the overall protocol….so it can’t be that harmful?! Hope you’re looking after yourself and on the mend soon xx

They've not refused it because I'm ttc (although they do say not to become pregnant whilst taking it), but I've had to stop taking it because I can't eat or drink anything on it. Have just got back from an overnight in hospital and apparently I've been both having a Lyme-disease related reaction AND the doxy has burnt out my oesophagus a little bit the nausea has subsided but I feel like someone has poured a boiling hot mug of soup down my gullet. This is the worst!

And still no AF, cd44...!

Mistletoe Thanks for the info- Very interesting hearing the difference between AF symptoms and preg symptoms...... I was definitely having AF symptoms! I wont make that mistake again! You are now in red on our stats sheet..... how does it feel!!!?

Sunday That's fab news that you can get straight back on the clomid- fingers crossed the fertility clinic feel the same way! You may have to redo your blood and SA prior to that but doesn't sound like you are far off getting some meds! Not long to wait for your appointment now!

Women Your temp fluctuations will probably be a mixture of a few things- partly cos you are taking them at different times but also partly cos of PCOS! Partly cos you are new off the implant so your hormones will be all crazy. And also I have found that the longer I have been temping for, the more stable my temps are becoming. I think its the technique of holding the thermometer nice and still under your tongue in the same place for long enough without breathing! It takes serious effort! lol Kepi going- it does get easier and more useful over time.

Aww Stealth you poor thing. I hope you feel better soon and you get rid of that nasty infection. Do you know if you ov'ed this month? CD44 is very annoying!

AFM- CD4. AF arrived in full force on Monday so it was a 33 day cycle for me in the end! My shortest ever AND all by myself without any meds Problem is now DH wants to delay IVF until the new year in the hope that I conceive naturally now I'm ov'ing naturally.
I don't have the heart to tell him that it may be a one off flook and, even if it isn't, he still has crappy swimmers....... Definitely have this month to try naturally again as still don't have AMH result but once that's back I think I want to plough ahead with IVF.
Am I being unreasonable? Is DH right?

Hi everyone,
Going to catch up on everyone's news in a bit. Haven't been on the thread after my clomid failed and then I couldn't find it.

Update from me: I started ivf. Was on medication for 2 weeks before starting injections for another 2 weeks. I had my egg collection yesterday and they collected 26 eggs and 16 fertilised. I will.find out Monday how many have made it and then they will be frozen until January when one will be transferred.

Due to the pcos they want to do frozen to reduce the risk of ohss plus gives 10-15% more chance.

vixx I don't know anything about ivf but that all sounds positive.

rose It's weird! But also a long time coming. I now have a midwife appointment booked and there in the process of arranging an early scan because my clomid cycle was unmonitored.
If I was you I'd go feet first and straight into the ivf, it's unlikely you've gone into a regular cycle. But then I hate waiting.

I'll keep popping in if that's ok, mostly to see how everyone is doing

Congratulations mistletoe I am so happy for you

Rosebud I would defo go straight to ivf. I still think I oved naturally in July and I've had nothing since. I just don't believe PCOS works like a cold engine motor ie once you get it revving it starts up!

No I didn't ov this month - had it tested. Am just waiting for my frigging period to arrive so I can start clomid! Ho hum.

Mistletoe it's just SO EXCITING. enormous congrats.

Hello ladies, lots to catch up on...

Big congratulations mistletoe wishing you a happy pregnancy!

Poor stealth are you feeling any better? FX AF turns up soon.

Agree with the others rose I would also want to crack on with IVF. There's so much waiting around with ttc with pcos already and you probably won't just start ovulating regularly unfortunately. My DH would probably say the same as your DH and the passing months of nothing happening don't seem to bother him so much whereas I just get horribly frustrated.

vixx 16 fertilised eggs sounds very positive. Keep us posted on the news on Monday.

AFM, nothing much to report. The provera worked this time - hurrah! - but I had a sickness bug on the 2nd and 3rd day of clomid so I don't suppose much stayed in my system (tmi) and I'll be very surprised if I ovulate...(see above re getting frustrated!!).