TTC with PCOS (Thread #3)

[RoseBud2015]

If you have been diagnosed with PCOS and would like a small group of very friendly ladies in the same position as you to talk to, then this is the thread for you!

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Oh banana, that is just THE BEST news!!!! Utterly thrilled for you. That's made my day xx

Hurrrrrraaaah banana! Amazing news. Congratulations! Xxx

Oh and just to offset all the happiness - I went out to dinner last night with a couple of old friends who are reasonably heavy drinkers. In an attempt to not also have to drink heavily, I started the meal with a bottle of sparkling water and lime before moving onto wine - wanted to restrict myself to a couple of glasses of wine (cf the 2.5 bottles they got through!). After the first glass when the waiter topped me up the husband of the couple said "stealth, you're TOTALLY pregnant, you're not drinking!". Thus followed 15mins of me protesting that (a) I WAS drinking (and I ate a rare steak, ffs!) and (b) I really, definitely, am not pregnant. DH was just squirming nervously. I ended up ordering a cocktail just to "prove" I'm not pregnant. FFS! Talk about rubbing it in. God knows how I am going to get through much more of this (let alone actually being pregnant!) with all our friends on such high bump watch.

Stealth - wow your friends are making it hard for you! I hope you enjoyed the cocktail at least?

Rosebud - as luck would have it, I'm in the same place as you again (work related). Fingers crossed for you!

Bananafish - very early and quiet congratulations!!

It was a great cocktail isit!

rosebud so so so excited about your fantastic follies. The menopur has obviously done the trick, hurrah! Hope you’re having a lovely weekend in Brno and enjoy your drug free day today. We’re all here with the pompoms cheering you on for tomorrow. You’re so close, I can feel it!

stealth and all systems go too! Fantastic news about that nice ripe juicy follie, and a cracking lining too - still plenty of time for it to thicken up even more by Tuesday. Good luck with your trigger tomorrow morning. You did bloody well not to throw your cocktail over your friend!

Dunlin terrific news on the tubes - bring on the Clomid!!

chandelier hope you’re feeling a bit less ropey and prawn isn’t giving you too much grief (or at least that the anti emetics are helping to keep things somewhat bearable)

elle nice work on the SMEP, hope you’ve got an ice pack for your bits chilling in preparation

oranges hope you’re doing ok there

amy welcome to the thread - it’s a cracking bunch of women here

village I would def go for the Clomid, and get confirmation of ov with a progesterone blood test (ideally they’d monitor you with follicle tracking scans too, so you’ll have a good idea of what’s going on in there!)

roxy So pleased you’re getting properly checked out with a monitoring cycle - they sound incredibly thorough! I’ve heard of people travelling to Belgium specifically for fertility treatment, so have only ever heard good things.

feefee re: the scratch, it is a tough one, because part of me thinks why don’t they just throw the kitchen sink at the first cycle so you don’t have to wait for failed implantation to try additional things! But had a good talk with my consultant about this, and he said additional interventions if they weren’t indicated could do more harm than good. In my case he said a scratch could def do more harm than good, and similarly wouldn’t treat empirically for possible immune issues with no good indication for implantation failure (didn’t want to put me on steroids / intralipids / clexane / aspirin for the sake of it). It’s a tough one because I kept thinking ‘I don’t want to go shoulda woulda coulda’ but if the Dr was telling me not to pay him for extra procedures then it was prob not in my best interests!

isit thank you so much!

So I tested on my own, as it was supposed to be a BFN practice run so that on OTD I was prepared for seeing a negative. I wasn’t expecting the line to pop up at all, let alone so bloody quickly!!

DH said I was naughty but he would have done exactly the same thing

He thinks we should wait till OTD to tell the Dr, so we don’t look like naughty patients; although a friend who had her embryo transfer on Sat asked the Dr (same Dr as stealth and I are both seeing) about testing early and he winked - so I think he prob does expect you to test early, and just makes the date really conservative to allow some buffer if you do!

So I’m tempted to email tomorrow, and see if he wants me to come in for a beta test. Hope our little duracell (cos it’s AA grade!) blasto has got its crampons and spidey suckers and is holding on tight!

I find it utterly mind boggling that we got to see a potential future child on the big screen at only 5 days post conception!!

Just wanted to offer banana my tentative congratulations too! Lovely to check in and see some brill news. Good luck to rosebud and stealth too for the coming week, rooting for you and your follies

Thanks for the welcome banana and congratulations on your BFP! XX really is great news!

Hope you've got another strong bfp this morning banana

Fx rosebud for EC today - thinking of you!

I just did my ovitrelle trigger shot...let's get this show on the road!

Morning all, hope you all had good weekends, mine was a bum but will touch on that later.

I just wanted to say banana I have absolutely everything crossed, but have to say so far so good.

Good luck Rose and stealth hope the coming days go to plan for you both.

dunlin it is different to the Hycosy, I understood that the Hycosy is an ultra sound which tracks the dye. They put you to sleep for a lap and dye and they make an incision and put a camera in and have a good look round, they then put some dye in to check my tubes etc to see if that is clear. The only reason I am having it is because they failed with a HSG, they couldn't get the tube through my cervix. Apparently they can do more to make sure it gets through when I am asleep! Its booked for the 10/02 so a week on Wednesday.

Amy sounds like you have found a plan for the way forward, losing weight has really helped me, in fact I need to kick myself back into it!

AFM - So was all set for the SMEP this month, started so well, CD8,10,& 12 (friday!) Got a positive OPK in the evening CD12, early for me. Another +opk Saturday (CD13) think EWCM (yippee) so according to SMEP, you do it the day of the 1st+opk (already covered), the next and the next day. Easy I think it is the weekend....OH NO DH had other plans....i make it known that i would like to BD, oh of course you must be ovulating was his response, no not at all darling it just you I want fingers crossed behind my back well he was having none of it made it very clear there would be no BD that night, going on and on about trying to get pregnant. HE ONLY HAS TO DO ONE THING......then at 10pm he says go on we can do it. Well by that time there was no way I could I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE I just went to bed....he fell asleep on the sofa and didn't come to bed. I was raging, I went bad shit crazy (don't like it when it happens) we had a huge argument Sunday morning so didn't even BD yesterday. He just didn't get that the window is so small he just can't have the luxury of not feeling like it and now I feel like know that we have missed the window this month. I was so upset with him. I thought I would definitely have it covered this month with my fertile period being over a weekend. So just going to write this month off and concentrate on the lap and dye next week, if that is all clear the next step is Clomid so trying my best to think onwards and upwards.

Have a good Monday everyone.

Stealth I'm sorry but your 'friends' sound like idiots! I know they were probably only messing around and trying to be funny but that shit really isn't on! I hope one day you feel able to talk to them about your ttc journey and they will see the error of their ways. Hugs.
Congrats on taking your trigger shot! The countdown is well and truly on for you!!! Exciting times! Xxx

Itis! Are you in Brno? Or the Czech Republic? Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick? Your work sounds so glam; always going on little trips here, there and everywhere. What is it that you do? How are things going with you at the mo my lovely? Xxx

Elle I know that problem only to well! Had similar months with DH cos he was feeling the pressure. In the end we compromised and he agreed that if he was finding the pressure of frequent DTD too much during SMEP then he would provide me a sample in a pot at some point that day instead, and I would self inseminate! It actually worked quite well and on occasions it had us in hysterics! Could this approach be worth a try? Hope your ok x

AFM- I'm back in my hotel bed after a morning in the clinic. I was really nervous about the general anaesthetic and either not waking up at all, or waking up to no/few eggs.
But the process was actually very quick and calm. I had this funny feeling in my brain as they were giving me the anaesthetic and then the next thing I was waking up in our clinic room with DH next to me, apparently I kept saying that I was having a lovely sleep! I thought I was in my hotel room!
The procedure itself took no longer than 20 minutes and once I was awake, DH had to go and give his sample. No problems there as in his words his "balls were ready to burst" after 5 days of abstinence!
Then the consultant came in to say all was good and they had managed to retrieve .............. 12 eggs! So relieved! In quite a lot of discomfort now and my ovaries feel very bruised but otherwise all is well!

Have oral Estrofen tablets and Utrogestan tablets (vaginally) to take each day between now and embryo transfer (and beyond) which they think is likely to be 6th Feb. Apparently my lining is looking good too; although forget to ask for the thickness measurement.

Now for the 24 hour wait for our first egg/embryo report! So exciting and scary!

Oh Elle. Don't worry too much about it. I think almost everyone on these boards has at least one version of that story. I know I do! Go easy on your DH - it's really hard for men throughout all this, they are somewhat shut out of the process and then have to perform like a stud bull I know it's frustrating but you will have another opportunity next month for sure, and you'll get there in the end. And remember sperm can live for up to 5 days so you're not completely out. Btw, apols if I've missed something but why are you taking clomid if you already ovulate?

Ah x post with rosebud - 12 eggs!!! 3x as many as the 4 you thought you'd have. Fantastic work lady. Glad the EC went well and you are in ok shape - take care of yourself and enjoy being in a hotel and away from it all whilst you wait.

Yes my friends are twits - the guy in particular has no social graces sometimes. I love him, but really. I doubt I'll ever talk to him about it as he just won't get it.

Elle - see, everyone has a story!

Yippee rosebud go go your clever ovaries! 12 eggs! That’s an absolutely stonking result. So so pleased for you - I had a very good feeling you were going to rock the socks out of EC today. Cannot wait for you to get a fabulous phone call tomorrow - hope you are resting up and letting DH take good care of you (especially now he’s suitably relieved!!)

The soreness will abate, but understandable with such a fantastic haul. And terrific news on the lining - the Estrofem will help to make it extra plump, as will the Utrogestan (aka fanjo bullets aka messaries)

elle oh hon, so frustrating - agree with stealth, it’s a tricky one because when you’re pissing on sticks and turning yourself into a human chemistry set, I know I think ‘YOU HAVE ONE JOB FFS’. But equally they do get sidelined in all of this and reduced to being simply a sperm donor - although I do think Rose’s JIAC (jizz in a cup) idea is a terrific one. It can definitely work, as I have a friend who’s in a same-sex relationship who used it to great effect. She and her partner had 3 rounds of IVF and several IUIs and nothing….then ended up getting knocked up with their little boy (2nd month of trying!) by using a highly sophisticated cup + syringe method with a known donor - and then 2.5 years later repeated the trick to have their baby girl!

Thanks so much for congrats ladies, got another stonking line (came up sooo quickly!) this morning, so I fessed up to the consultant’s secretary about testing early, so I’m hopefully going in for beta hCG and progesterone blood tests.

Really hoping this one isn’t a chemical and that it’s clinging on tight! Still getting a bit of cramping which I’m told is not a bad sign, and OMFG my (.)(.) - I’ve never had sore boobs in my life before, until now. They are most definitely making their presence known, so something is going on down there, I hope it’s embryo shaped and not just the progesterone playing tricks on my mind!

Ladies thank you, it is so easy to loose the plot with this TTC!! I should have just let it slide and got on it Sunday morning LOL but I just saw red, I don't think I am handling the whole TTC journey very well at the minute, just about to hit a whole year of TTC. I am so distracted, it is the only thing that I can think of...ALL OF THE TIME. I like to be in control and know what is going on at all times and this baby making thing is just so out of my control, I hate it.

rose so happy 12 eggs don't know much about the process but that sounds like a great number to work with, everything is crossed! I might mention it to him see what he says, it might be worth a shot pun intended

Stealth my thoughts exactly, I think they are thinking so definite then lol that I do not ovulate every month, out of the 3 cycles with day 21 bloods they have only confirmed ovulation once, and that was 2 cycles ago (beginning of Dec) not had any bloods since then. The consultant in December said that they wanted to put me on clomid but only once tubes are all clear, hence lap and dye. Although I have concerns about that. I would have thought that they would want me to be in a particular place of my cycle for the dye test and to abstain. But when I rang to book the operation and I asked they said that i was only down for a lap. I told her that was wrong and the Dr had said lap and dye, she checked my notes and said yes that is what Dr said but only put Lap on the pro-form (whatever that is!) I asked her to check and not heard anything since. When I asked at my pre-op assessment last week they said just mention it to the Dr on the day. Do they need to do the dye bit to see if the tubes are clear or can they tell just from the camera?? I don't want to have to go back for another surgery for the dye if they have made a mistake!! I am just so unsure what do to?

Anyway sorry for such a long post, vent! You guys have so much more on your plate, I do hope everything goes absolutely brilliantly.

Elle it's only natural to think about it all the time, especially when you want so badly. I'm sure we are all the same..... I certainly am! There's no need to feel bad, we all have bad days xxx

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