TTC with PCOS (Thread #3)

[RoseBud2015]

If you have been diagnosed with PCOS and would like a small group of very friendly ladies in the same position as you to talk to, then this is the thread for you!

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Oh Rosebud all the hugs in the world. Don't be daft, it's not TTC top trumps and even if it were you would be more than justified in feeling utterly devastated. It's so hard and we all feel for you. All the love and hugs in the world, please be kind to yourself and let DH support you (as I know you will him) and know that we're all here for you. Thinking of you xx

Oh rose I am so so sorry. It doesn't matter how you try and manage expectations it's still completely gutting every time. Are you going into work? Can you take today just to let yourself have some time before the weekend? Big hugs to you.

Morning everyone.

I haven't been around for a while as I've been trying to ignore ttc.

So is this my BFP?

Thank you for the lovely welcome ladies!

Must say PCO/PCOS was something I had no idea about. I am so relieved that many many women still conceive naturally without problems.

I had a scan in July which showed my right ovary had the pearl like necklace follies around the edge - but my left was fine. I have to be aukward. My GP didn't quite believe me that it could only effect one and it's normally both ovaries. Maybe it will be/was. So have started the metformin. I cannot stop googling and then I panic and then I get sad and worried and teary - blimey. What a rollercoaster!!

Cannot wait to see ALL the bfps!

Sorry you are feeling rotten rosebud I know you are feeling sad now but remember next month I am 100% positive you can try again. That's what I tell myself each month. Be kind to yourself x

Mistletoe Get a digi! Looks promising! x

Welcome ComeonBabys- firstly congratulations on the fantastic weight loss. I'm doing the same myself, having got it down from 42 to 34 and still going. Am also starting Metformin again but last time I was on it I had been put on bcp at same time to regulate cycle, so I'm not sure what effect it has yet. How have you found it?
FX for your bloods, do you know when you get the results?

I'm so so sorry Rose! Don't feel bad for the post at all, we still allow ourselves to get excited as we're human. I was giddy this morning as I've got the best EWCM I've ever had. You'd think I'd have got my BFP with how happy I was! Lol I try not to get excited and ahead of myself but it's natural to hope when we've been in this so long. Hope you get the chance to take some time out with DH to get through it xx

Rose you let it all out - it's okay to completely lose it here! It's just a long, hard process so please just vent as much as you need to. I'm sorry. Keep on

mistletoe wowee, looks like a BFP to me! Congrats are in order!

mrsc I have been taking it for 3 weeks now. The first week was awful. I felt sick, a few sharp tummy pains, I felt so drowsy. Then changed when I took it to during dinner. I have some food - get the pill down - and then eat the rest of my tea and drink lots of water. Took 2 weeks and then I went to 2x500mg a day. I am hoping to be more organised next week and introduce the 3rd pill which would be morning with some breakfast. If I can be organised enough to prepare it - I get up for work at the last possible minute - but I can take it once I am at my desk.

I have a GP appointment next Friday for the results. If the results don't show ovulation then I have made enquiries with 2 fertility hospitals for next month. Both have been personally recommended by close friends who have also been through the mill with ttc.

I am due AF on 22/10. Nothing hurts, minimal bloating, boobs aren't as tender as usual but I am teary more.

I am so pleased it's Friday - I think I may treat myself to a lovely glass of wine later

Mistletoe get a FRER! Looks v promising...on tenterhooks here and keeping everything crossable crossed.

To update those asking, the positive was on a first response. I then got a second and also a positive on a superdrug.
AF isn't due until Monday at the earliest so I've currently got everything possible crossed.

I'm 11 dpo -ish, ie I'm 11 days post egg collection, I'm feeling utterly miserable, lethargic, grumpy as hell, and have a grumbling crampy feeling, so I suspect spotting will be on its way and hopefully AF will follow. I'm not too worried about a shorter luteal phase this month because as far as I know, IVF buggers up progesterone (hence why you have to take the progesterone fanjo bullets - which obv I haven't been taking, as I don't have any embryos on board).

Hopefully I'll at least have a 'proper' period this month, as I had some lining, even if it wasn't thick enough to proceed to transfer. Even though I've ovulated the last 3 months, I haven't had a single proper period, just dark brown spotting (apols for TMI) and no actual red flow, so I'm hoping this will at least clear out any old lining that remains.

No idea if this might make a difference with my lining next cycle, but would be amazing if it did. My CBFM has jumped from 'Low' to "Peak' each month, skipping 'High', which suggests my body isn't producing enough oestrogen for it to register, and it's only detecting the LH surge. That plus not having had anything remotely approaching EWCM, plus my scanty periods, suggests my oestrogen is just too low to get my lining up to scratch.

Really hoping my cycle resets itself after all the stims, as even if my lining is crap again, and no chance of getting a natural BFP, at least if I ovulate then I'll get another AF and will be able to start the FET cycle. When I was classic PCOS I thought if I could just ovulate, then I'd be well on the way to BFP-ville. Be careful what you wish for - I was desperately hoping that when I came off the pill, my ovaries might have magically polycystic-ed themselves. Well they did just that, but it's because it turns out I have this crappy genetic 'burning out PCOS' so my PCOS symptoms have vanished - along with all my eggs!!

I'll be doing something and not thinking about things, then I'll suddenly remember that 'oh, my fertility has dropped off a cliff and I'm in peri menopause'. Still feels like a cruel joke to think I have one fertility issue, and then transpire it's been replaced by something with a much poorer prognosis Ho hum. Onwards.

Sorry for rambling. Can you tell I'm in the premenstrual doldrums?!!

That's amazing Mistletoe - all sounds very,er, positive! So excited xx

Sending you a massive virtual hug banana x

Rosebud sorry to hear it.

Banana you can do it! Am sure you guys will get there in the end. Science will save the day.

Welcome comeon!

And mistletoe YES! BFP!! MAssive congrats.

I'm trying to follow what's going on but all theses abbreviations mean nothing to me! Sorry for my newbie innocence! Sending hugs to all those feeling poo and high fives to those with reasons to celebrate.

Women oh god, it’s like another language! Sorry for talking in code, it’s ridiculous isn't it?

AF = Aunt Flo i.e. a period
CBFM = Clearblue Fertility Monitor - advanced ovulation predictor gadget (‘Low’ means not fertile, ‘High’ means ovulation is approaching and ‘Peak’ means it detect the surge of the LH hormone that triggers ovulation)
EWCM = egg white cervical mucus - the most fertile cervical fluid, produced as the body gears up to ovulate
FET = frozen embryo transfer
TMI = too much information

Others that pop up include
DPO = days post ovulation
DTD = doing the deed (ie sexytimes)
OPK = ovulation predictor kit
FRER = First Response Early Response - very sensitive HPT (home pregnancy test)
POAS = piss on a stick (ie take a test)
CM = cervical mucus - as in EWCM above
CD = cycle day

If that's any help? xx

Thanks ladies. Yes, hopefully science will save the day - love it stealth. There’s a v funny website called ‘I fucking love science’, and DH said the other day ‘I’m always bloody sharing stuff from ‘I fucking love science’, I’ve been science’s street team for years, it owes me a favour, so now would be a good time to help us out’

banana thank you. I'd managed to work a few out but some were totally lost on me.

Lots of hugs for you rose hope you got through the wedding okay. It's all utterly crap at times, isn't it? Take care of yourself

Welcome comeonbaby well done on the weight loss. Welcome women hopefully you'll get used to the abbreviations soon - if not, just ask!

mrsc I hope the metformin works for you this time round.

Sorry you're feeling miserable at the moment bananafish Am sure you will get there in the end. This bit is just rubbish

I heart I fucking love science

I actually said to my gynae when I saw her that, no matter how shit it is for me to be in this position, I'm completely fascinated and amazed by the whole process - 50 years ago it would have been no ovulation = no baby. Full stop. Now everyone is cheerfully writing me out a script for a little tablet that MAKES FOLLICLES GROW. (At least, I hope it does - maybe clomid won't work for me!) And if that doesn't work they can start extracting individual eggs and sperm and mating them in a Petri dish. All whilst telling me I'm so young and have so much time to do this (love going to fertility clinics in London!). It is incredibly brilliant and I am incredibly grateful to even have the chance to try all this stuff.

She smiled and said "yes, thank goodness for medicine eh?"

Rosebud I'm so gutted for you. Can you have some nice at the wedding and dance with your lovely DH? Sending you so many hugs and . It is so unfair. But on the upside, your clever ovaries worked without any help - if they've done it once they can do it again, and that might be THE cycle.

Banana no such thing as TMI here. I'm looking forward to my first period again so much, if it ever arrives!

Mistletoe go you! You do realise you need to update us with what you were taking, how often DTD etc.

stealth innit just? We have to have ICSI with frozen eggs, it’s mad that they can inject a single sperm directly into the egg. Then whilst they’re chilling out in the incubator, time lapse cameras take a picture of them every 15 mins. And our clinic has a special algorithm that maps their development to help identify the strongest contenders. Some clinics even let patients log into the Embryoscope images online to watch their embryos develop!

My friend has a locket with a photo of her baby daughter on one side, and a photo of her as a blastocyst that the embryologists gave her on the day of transfer - before and after! It’s amazing as you can see in that photo what bit was going to become placenta and what bit was going to become a real live human. Blows my mind.

Morning all

I do need to catch up but it's hard to do on my phone.

I've another positive this morning (that's 4 now) although none on cheap Internet tests, 2 FRER and 2 superdrug.

We did do things slightly different this month. DP took zinc and vitamin D and we used concieve plus every time we dtd. We also stuck to dtd every other day. So I ovulate around day 17/18, we dtd 12,14,16,18 and 20.

Six rounds of clomid later and we've got there. As AF isn't due until next week I'm still trying to hold back a bit but I've felt pregnant since about Tuesday and have a good feeling about this one.

As many of you know I had a chemical in May and knew from BFP that something wasn't right.

This time I had implantation pain and just knew.
Now to keep my gob shut for the next 8 weeks!

Ah Mistletoe, that is just the best news. I'm so happy for you and your DH! You give me hope

Bananafish, 'Thank goodness for medicine' - amen to that! Sorry you've been getting low. Are you going for FET next, rather than stims?

Rosebud, I'm sorry AF got you. What did you decide to do about the Femara in the end?

Hi to all the new newbies!

AFM, I had a weird two part AF (went away for a day and a half, then came back for half a day) but I'm still so thrilled it arrived at all. Now temp charting and thinking of using OPKs starting from tomorrow. This despite the fact that I'm probably likely just to have a 14+ month cycle again, absent medical intervention. I almost emailed the consultant surgeon, I was so thrilled. (He's not treating me for the fertility issues, it was just the ovarian cyst, but he does know all about my issues of course!).
I have failed to get an earlier appointment with my ACU consultant, despite ringing repeatedly in the hope of a cancellation, so it's still a few weeks to go. So it's a waiting game on two fronts. And in the meantime, more pregnancy announcements in RL, and awkward work assumptions about why I was drinking water not wine at a social. Should have just had wine!

Hi all, I've been lurking stalking this thread for a while now but thought I'd introduce myself seeing as you've had a few other newbies recently. I'm over 30, TTC#1, with PCOS, after miscarriage, so not really sure where I fit in under the different MN groups!

Started ttc last Sept and was about to start clomid in May when I got a natural bfp having had no af for 8 months. Sadly my 12 week scan revealed a MMC so been trying again since recovering. Feeling a little more positive now as just had my first natural AF in over a year!! Congrats on also getting AF FeeFee, I'm gonna try opks for the first time from monday.

And congratulations Mistletoe ,wishing you a happy, healthy pregnancy!