Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

[sunnyday01]

This is a thread for those diagnosed with high or very high natural killer cells and trying to concieve or are pregnant and taking steroids/intralipids etc

Newcomers very welcome

Hi drttc. Glad to hear u have some fun thugs planned and are looking on the bright side of things! I'm sure time will pass quickly and u wil be ready and armed with a plan!

Thanks sunny-yeah I went for a walk around the house and then sat in the front room in the dusk! Was a bit weird to be honest! Haha. Hope ur appt went well? Oh to dream of making it to a booking appt! Have u told the parents yet?

I get free counselling sessions with my ivf so gonna use them now! Quite handy really...

Hula glad u enjoyed the cake and hope acu was relaxing x

Hey hula, first time I did it only had one at 16mm which I knew was too small, second time I had 2, one 19 I think and one 24 (way too big Louise said she thought it could be empty/fluid if remember correctly), anyway, that time it worked. Did Dr s you could choose when to? Didn't really get any cm either...all the old faithful natural signs seem to go out the window...I deffo felt my ovaries though...

Appt was fine - just filling in a big long form! Still feels like I'm playing at it!

Yes told our parents, my parents were surprised but happy - my mum cried her eyes out! DH parents were a bit funny, they seem pleased asked if they could tell anyone ( said no) and then started talking about their house renovations - maybe they couldn't take it in not sure!

I just want to get to that12 weeks now - 2 weeks 4 days to go!

Certainly an unusual reponse! Maybe they are just being weary?!

So any more scans or just 12 weeks now? How exciting

No got one at 11 1/2 with Mr s (although that may change depending on when nhs scan is), nhs scan, and then final scan with Mr s at 14-16 weeks! Still feels like an age away!

I felt like I was getting somewhere but going back to 9 weeks means I have to wait an extra week I think!

I know time goes so slowly. I don't think ill ever feel relaxed. I'm even more terrified of getting over 12 weeks and something else awful happening. Anyways wot am I talking about, I like hardly preg way too soon to be thinking more than getting through tonight! This back ache is continuing, it's like a heavy feeling. I never had it with other preg unless I'm being ultra sensitive.

Hula hope u made a decision about DTD and trigger! I know the chance of falling preg is highest having sex the day before u ovulate! So if u trigger today DTD today too maybe?! But actually there's only a few percent in it!

Trying- we're too similar stressing over every remote symptom. Yes I had a low ache - in my back & groin / uterus at one point. I think I had every 'miscarriage symptom' exceeds red blood and severe pain. I can't tell you not to worry as I know you will and I did - but I can promise you you can find both worrying and reassuring info online for every single thing you may feel as I spent hours of pred early mornings 'researching'. Instead download good trashy novels on your kindle if R&R apps don't work. 'At ease' worked for me sometime and headspace.
Hula- I only had one and no others at all first month. Second month I had one about to pop, another large and two smaller. Hang in there. We did manage that 2nd month to dtd the night before the scan and also 36 and 48 hrs after the trigger. So possible the dtd before the scan caught the one about to pop and SO didn't even help in the end in terms of the trigger. Who knows?!
Sunny - delighted for you :)))
Seeking - really hope you get a well deserved break too and some positive news soon.
As for me I'm ok. Think I mentioned Im now anxious about 20 week scan in a month as was told not to get nuchal scan which could have indicated any early structural issues - bad Scottish nhs gave wrong advice thinking Harmony replaced nuchal- but only for chromosome checks. Also I'm stressed my symptoms have faded/gone. I know can be normal but thought breast tenderness remained and has gone and no dark nipples anymore. Not sure that's normal. I will stress every day I'm sure. Can't see me going a whole month without reassurance so will see what midwife says next week as have appointment.
Hi to everyone x

Meant except not exceeds. Always a typos!!

Thanks rosa will get "at ease". I know its hard isn't it! I haven't burst out crying yet! Im just aware and thoughtful of this ache -I can't tell if it's my awful metformin flatulence (sorry! Poor DH) or my actual uterus.

13 days till scan one.

I think people say 2nd trimester u are meant to feel better and it's the best one! Maybe u should try enjoy not feeling shit! Haha! That's really rather annoying of the nhs! How did they get that wrong?! I hope all is well at ur final scan yay!!!! :))) have u allowed urself to think of names?

Hope your 13 days pass quickly. Sure you'll be fine. You can't go through all that without some aches and twinges.

I know I'd love to relax but now worried about other scan and also if hormones dropping now off cyclogest and that's why symptoms reduced. Really hope ok.
Names are soooo tough. We had a week of it and now over it for a while. Have a couple that might work!! X

Thanks everyone for your SO feedback, has made me feel much better. Acu lady was great as usual and have also had some ewcm and dtd tonight so feeling more relaxed and less like an obsesive hormonal crazy lady !! Decided to do the trigger before i go to work tomorrow so 36hrs will be wed night when dh gets back.

Drttc great to hear your PMA, and thats definetly a good mantra to have

Rosa - please don t worry about lack of symptoms in second tri, i felt totally normal with ds and only growing bump told me i was preg. Just keep taking it one day at a time, you re doing great.

Trying hope you re not feeling too knackered after you re day at work and hope the pred gives you a night off from the insomina.

Thanks Hula- just things literally changed as soon as stopped cyclogest. I hope it's same for me.

Hi Drttc too - got everything Xed for you too x

Managed to sleep till 630 which is amazing! And only woke up for an hr at 2ish. Luckily had mega quiet day yest at work today will be more frantic but suppose will keep my mind of things!
Hula good idea te trigger inbetween the 2 options! Glad u saw some
Reassuring ecwm.
Rosa after everything us rm have been through I think the panic never goes. I think even normal preg ladies panic daily too, so I suppose we just have accept ours is a lot more heightened. But ur past danger points, ur baby is growing and Hooefully ur next scan will be here soon and reassure u. But it's hard work every day, well I'm finding it is!

Guys I'm really freaking about my twinges. Inbetween them my back feels normal but every hr or so I feel a little something. It's def not my bowels today! I'm wondering if it's just stretching but I'm worried something is going wrong? I'm on cyclogest three times a day(!) so worried any spotting wouldn't come through....I keep telling myself it's my first preg on all the meds, but if it's chromosomol it can't be helped? No pt getting a scan now, I could get hcg levels done but I'm not sure I want to know/want the stress?!
With all my miscarriages ive started bleeding, or lost my symptoms. I don't even have any syptoms now which im also not happy about.
Should I buy a clear blue to check my hcg is up? I'm 5 weeks on Thursday what should it say by then? I kinda don't want to know as what will it achieve? If it says 1-2 weeks I'll panic and can't do anything about it?? So far my 2 tests have been darker 2 days apart...
Sorry meme meme.

Trying - I know it's hard but try to relax. You're on a lot of drugs which will mask the symptoms and as much as you want to feel some symptoms, for us it's not likely. Try to just accept that.... It doesn't mean anything bad at all. You need to be positive and stay calm, which I know it's the hardest thing when history has shown you how bad things can go.
Your uterus is growing to hold your precious little bundle, it's natural that you will feel some little twinges. Stay away from the clear blue tests from hell! They will bring you unnecessary stress. Today you are pregnant Hun, keep thinking that. You will be fine, have faith in the drugs and the Drs. Big hugs x

Hey Trying, I really think that's the cyclogest! I felt so funny on it and really thought I was moments away from miscarrying. So I stopped the cyclo then suddenly all those pains went away. I think because it slows down your digestive system everything starts going a bit funny and crampy down there!

Thanks guys sorry for being a silly one. I just feel so normal today. I'm not tired I have no naseau and I wouldn't know I was preg and its freaking me out. Saying that I was awfully sick second time around and it didn't end well. And usually my symptoms start around 5ish weeks so maybe I need to wait.
I think the cramps are mixture of bowels and cyclogest and everything!
12 days till scan!

dRtcc and seeking how r u both? Hope ur holding up ok...

Trying - just hang in there and try to distract yourself. So hard I know but you re pregnant now and not bleeding and nothing else can reliably tell you anything. Def don t do a CB, its not worth the potential stress. Hugs.

Ps I don't do a clearblue what will it acheive. I can't have a scan and even I did it would Reassure me for ten minutes! What will be will be. I just need to have some faith and hope it's nothing chromosnolal and the meds are doing their med.

Thanks hula-did u trigger and manage to DTD? I have everything crossed for u, u so so deserve ur bFp soon x

Yep managed another bd this morning at 6 and did the trigger at 8am so think we covered our bases as much as poss and plan to bd wed eve, thurs am and then just have to wait and see. Did an opk before the trigger to make sure not already getting a natural surge and was neg so hopefully can be fairly sure ov will be 36hrs later just as dh get home (poor thing!).

Hope you re feeling ok, you re right you ve just got accept what will be will be and just try and stay positive.

Great timing! I always find early
Morning DTD is so forced my DH used to hate it! But needs must! Ur test date will be around my scan date right, so let's hope the next 12 days go super fast!

Yeah I'm ok thanks, I can't do anything. And I don't want to have hcg bloods and worry and Google them up. Even if they not rising as should there is nothing anyone will do until 6ish weeks and I can have a scan. And now A scan is too early. So I'll just have to be patient and enjoy this heatwave and try keep sane! Have discovered magnum pistachio whoops and yum!

Hmmm sounds good might have to fall off the diary wagon and try one !

Yep lets hope these next couple of wks fly by. We re actually going on hol next week and loads to do up till then to keep me busy. Will have to test on hol, already did a hpt to see what it looks like after the trigger (am i wierd ? sometimes i feel like my own personal science project !!!), actually fainter than i thought but even tho they we re nt real it was strangely nice to see two rather than one line (i m definetly weird and need to get out more, ha ha !).

Haha hula, we are all a bit cuckoo I wouldn't worry! Great a holiday, Best thing to keep your mind busy
Have a good day everyone, thinking of u drtcc and seeking and hope ur both ok x

Hope you feel better today Trying.... One day at a time is a much as you can do. Just try to keep yourself busy. Cyclogest def played havoc with my bowels, so all those twinges could well be that.
Hope you have a lovely holiday Hula, I hope it passes time quickly and ends with a happy bfp!

I'm ok thank you Trying, I just want tiger back to ttc and feel like I'm at least doing something.
One of the girls at work has found out she's pregnant... Very early she was very kind when she told me ( they all know my mc history) but I found it tough. It should be me
Generally though I'm ok and feeling positive.