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Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

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sunnyday01 · 05/06/2015 19:22

This is a thread for those diagnosed with high or very high natural killer cells and trying to concieve or are pregnant and taking steroids/intralipids etc

Newcomers very welcome

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Hula2 · 28/06/2015 20:51

Scan is at 10 then got acu at lunchtime to hopefully help things a long. Been feeling really tired and easily emotional today. Don t know if its anything to do with the drugs. Dh is back from being away with work and is also tired so we ve not been getting on this eve, makes me sometimes feel like i m the only one putting in the effort. Not sure how much more of this i can do.......sorry, i don t know what s wrong with me.

Trying good to hear work should provide a good distraction without being too busy.

Tryingno1 · 28/06/2015 21:06

Aw im sorry hula. It's so hard to DTD on command and keep up spirits when TTC all the time. It's so consuming.maybe it's a mixture of scan tmrw and the meds. Glad u have Acu booked after I hope u find her postive and helpful. Do u think u can seduce ur DH tonight or is it tmrw when u need to?!
I've realised I have complete scan fear even my ivf follicle scans I couldnt look at the screen and would lie there looking at the ceeling waiting for bad news. I always felt funny the day a scan-maybe that's contributing? Plus I'm quite used to dildo cam sadly - but it's never nice or dignified!

I'm not sure how I'm going to Survive till my next scan. Today felt like it was on pause! My boobs felt heavy yest, not so much today. Brain in overdrive. Praying hoping wishing! My dh is weirdly calm...

Will keep my fingers crossed for u hula, have a good sleep and hope u feel better tmrw. Xxx

Tryingno1 · 28/06/2015 21:07

Ps hopefully when u see ur follicles tmrw it will spur u on a bit! It's imagine it's quite a satisfying feeling

Hula2 · 28/06/2015 21:24

Thanks Trying. I just feel like a crazy hormonal mad woman sometimes and dh has said before that he s happy to try for another but not if it causes a load of stress on our relationship so i kinda of bottle it up which prob makes it worse. And yes can t say i relish pv scans and a part of me is also worried i might find its not working so thats prob playing a part too.

Wish i could fast forward these next few weeks for you. It s agonising how time can go so slow. I think distraction is all you can do. How nice would it be to be able to switch off your brain for a few hours (days/weeks !).

Tryingno1 · 28/06/2015 21:42

I found that sometimes hula. My DH didnt like to talk about the losses ALL the time, so sometimes I would bottle it up. It's almost like we have to be the stronger one so we don't upset them too much incase one day they go-actually im not doing it anymore. Which was a small fear I had as DH always said he wants kids but could be just happy with me travelling and exploring the world (I told him, sorry but I need
More in the nicest possible way!) Just deep breathe, rest up and try contain it. In the long term it's better for ur purist of Ttc.
Xxx

Tryingno1 · 28/06/2015 21:59

(But obv not to the extent that it's really tearing u apart, but obviously u know that! Don't need marriage advice from me haha!) I just found that if I brough DH down it would be harder for me ultimately as I didn't like to see him sad. Also the fear of him saying enough is enough stopped me at times.
Night I'm so tired!

Hula2 · 28/06/2015 22:07

Thanks for being the voice of reason Trying. I think its just so different for them it s often hard to be on the same wavelength.

Hope you sleep well, you re one more day closer.
Night x

Tryingno1 · 28/06/2015 22:13

I know, I think men are just so diff. My DH is wonderful, I feel so lucky to have him but he really is just different in his approach and thoughts to ttc and babies. It must be a woman biological instinct which turns us into mad ttc obssesed ladies! (Speaking for myself!)
Night
Seeking hope puppy doesn't keep u up at night!

Tryingno1 · 29/06/2015 08:00

I've been up since 4am. Had back pain stressed all night about it. But think it was my misbehaving Bowels(sorry tmi). Not sure how to handle work and waking up so early-any tips or apps anyone used to help them drift
Off again? I've tried deep breathing, my headspace techniques and praying!

Hula good luck
X

Seekingmiracles · 29/06/2015 08:12

Hope your scan goes well today Hula!! Will be sending positivity your way!
My DH sounds the same as yours... I can't talk about the losses too much as he finds it hard. So with him I have to positive otherwise the whole situation seems even more shit.

Trying I did the same as you, deep breathing, meditations an praying. Sometimes it worked and I'd drifted off again... Others is lie there for hours!

Did a hpt this morning... STILL a very faint line! FFS! Angry 2 weeks exactly since eprc.

Tryingno1 · 29/06/2015 08:16

Has ur bleeding stopped seeking? Don't worry it can take a good week weeks to go down, it's frustrating though. Can't draw a line under it can u,
How was first night with puppy??

Seekingmiracles · 29/06/2015 09:12

Yeah - it was just a random bleed. Just that morning really. Last time it was exactly 2 weeks before I had a neg test. So frustrating!!

Haven't got the puppy home yet. We just went to look at them yesterday and pick one They're only 4 weeks old,can't get him until he's 8 weeks.

Hula2 · 29/06/2015 10:41

Morning ladies,

Had scan, 1 dominant follicle, also a smaller one on otherside but not going to catch up in time. So feeling a bit deflated as basically no better than natural cycle. Also no cm so far and need to do trigger tonight plus dh is away tomorrow night so all shit timing. Maybe someones trying to tell me i just need to give up Sad. Sorry to be a downer.

Hula2 · 29/06/2015 10:55

Seeking - sorry the hpt is still faint and your cycle is messing about, it s so frustrating when you just want to move on.

Trying- 4am wakeup, what a pain. I can sympathise as DS not well last night so slept in with him and had very broken sleep. All i can suggest for work is write everything you need to do down to account for the inevitable lack of short term memory that sleep deprivation causes.

Tryingno1 · 29/06/2015 10:56

I'm sorry hula., it takes a few months with SO to get doses right etc. Did he suggest upping the dose next time?
I think sunny and rosa had one to begin with too...did u manage to DTD last night? If DTD today you will have it covered. I'm sorry ur deflated ;(
Hopefully one of the SO girls will give u some info as ive never done it before...
Ps on one of these pred threads I read of a lady called abbey-she was 40 plus. She had SO had no luck and then got preg the month of it and had a baby. There is always hope! It's only ur first month on it.

Hula2 · 29/06/2015 11:14

Thanks Trying. No didn t mange to dtd last night as we were nt really talking and ds was ill. Might have a chance early tomorrow morning and then it ll be wed night.

Dr S has up the letrozole to 10mg next time and my lining was ok and at least another follicle was trying to grow so he seemed ok about it all so i think i m just being over emotional and need to pull myself together. Just arrived in a coffee shop and have ordered cake, so that should help (to hell with the gluten!).

Hope your day at work is going ok.

Tryingno1 · 29/06/2015 11:38

Yay to cake! Don't put too much pressure on ursrlf, I felt guilty all through my ivf for my cake and Choc and ultimately im sure it hardly makes any diff! So enjoy a nice big piece!
Def try seduce him tonight! If u trigger today then will oulation be tmrw in which case today is right timing. Then hopefully next month u might pop 2!

Tryingno1 · 29/06/2015 11:42

This mild back ache is troubling me. I remember rosa mentioning it too-roda if ur lurking can u reassure me?! It's lower/mid back. Very mild but like an ache? I wish it would piss off as it's worrying me

Determined123 · 29/06/2015 11:52

Hey hula, just popping in to say letrozole made me pretty emotional too, I used to get headaches as well as mood changes which then caused arguments of course...but as soon as Ov happened I felt fine...until 10dpo and test time that is Smile coffee & cake...will do more good for you than bad, you deserve it...x

Never being successful it's hard to say trying but whenever I've googled stuff like that it all sounds completely normal (twinges & backaches) hope you're ok and keeping busy xx

Hula2 · 29/06/2015 12:19

Cake was good (tho feel a bit sick now as not used to all that sugar !)

Thanks Determined. Yes i ve had a bit of a groggy head too. Good to know i might become a bit more sane after ov. Did you still get ewcm on your SO cycles as not had any so far so of course now worrying about that ! Also can u remember what size follicle you triggered at ? Dr S said i could trigger tonight or tomorrow night so wondering if another day would be better. My big follicle was 18mm.

Trying - sorry the backache is worrying you but all sorts or aches and twinges are normal and i def had that kinda of thing early on with ds (and actually not at all with mc) so just focus positive thoughts on your little bean snuggling in.

Off to acu now so that be good to chill me out.

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sunnyday01 · 29/06/2015 12:24

Ah hula, do t be too disappointed about only having 1 - it only takes one plus you know there def is one!! I had two in my first months and then in month 2 only had 1 which is when he upped it and had a much better respobse. It does take time to build up in your system plus they round 4-4 are most probable do don't write it off just yet, you have too see it through to the end - unless he advises not too obvs!! Enjoy your cake!

All ok here, had my second intralipid this morning which was fine and got my booking appt this afternoon - all getting a bit scary now!! I'm going to treat myself to some cake today it after my midwife appt!!

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Tryingno1 · 29/06/2015 12:25

I know in ivf there's a balance between getting an over mature egg and an under mature one! Some of mine were overripe and some under! Maybe time it best to DTD as sounds like ur right on the cusp! I know they grow 2mm a day roughly and continue to after the trigger. But obv not sure if SO is the same

Got scan number one one 13th (had to be the bloddy 13th?! Was seriously considering changing it but then thought im surely not that mad!) and got my intralipds on Friday when I should be 5 plus one. I've already had one pre transfer so the slight delay should be ok as think. They work for 4-6 weeks. The back is only when I think about it and concentrate so going to try swtich off!

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sunnyday01 · 29/06/2015 12:25

Oh and you ov 36 hours after the shot, not the ne t day!

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sunnyday01 · 29/06/2015 12:27

Trying, I've been lucky so far in that I have slept pretty well, I find I have to go to bed about 9.30 in the evening because I'm so tired, but then wake up generally between 5 and 5.30. On the few occasions I haven't been able to sleep I've just read my kindle and eventually have managed to get back to sleep. Nothing worse than going to work feeling shattered though!

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Drttc · 29/06/2015 13:25

Hi all! Hope everyone having a happy Monday!

Trying, I second Sunny's advice on the kindle for getting to sleep. As it's a mental exercise it's like putting yourself to work so you can get sleepy again :) Or maybe try rolling with the early wake up (jump out of bed), to tire yourself out for a better nights sleep that evening?

Hula- that doesn't sound too bad actually. Good luck for when you decide to trigger & DTD. I know it's hard but maybe hit the reset button, pour a glass of wine, and try to make it fun again.

Good luck on your scan Sunny! Can't wait to hear back!

Ah seeking, how nice to be looking forward to bringing the pup home!

Hope you're enjoying pregnancy Rosa :)

At the moment we're so distracted by the house situation that it's been a welcome break! We DTD late on CD10 and CD11, but just for fun! I could have on CD12 but decided not to force things as we're not actually trying this month... So feeling very relaxed! Think it will be easy to fill this summer with distractions (hen dos, weddings, house stuff) so I'm optimistic. I'm remembering to come from a place of 'What I have' instead of 'what I want to have' and it surprisingly helps :)