Immune /natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 16th pred thread!)

[sunnyday01]

This is a thread for those diagnosed with high or very high natural killer cells and trying to concieve or are pregnant and taking steroids/intralipids etc

Newcomers very welcome

If this has happened in 6 months, what could happen in the next 6! And that's including a month intentional break and 2 wtf cycles on pred.

Is this an ivf place through the NHS? I think it's natural to start different approaches in pregnancy after these experiences. You know your body and mind the best as well and so you'll seek out whatever you need at the moment for calm. Do you have a 'danger' week in mind that you need to get through to feel at ease?

Its hard not to over think. Like u said drink some wine, relax and spend with dh.

It's private clinic but does nhs too. So was handy! I've been allowed to add on loads of tests and drugs nhs places wouldn't have allowed so feel quite lucky. Has cost me over 3 grand (drugs, intralipids, random blood tests, embryoscope freezing emnryos) !! And that's an nhs cycle!
I had a perfect 6.5 week scan and then at a 9 week one it had sadly died at 9weeks maybe that am. Was a missed miscatriage. So I think after 9/10 weeks I'll feel better but saying that I don't think I'll ever feel ok! Maybe after 20 weeks I may settle?!

Seeking is ur puppy not coming Tmrw?!

Holy crap! 3 grand for an NHS cycle?! What's an embryoscope? So excited for your journey! You're treatment plan seems to cover everything!

I think a bit of wine would be a good idea tonight...! Planning a nice active weekend as well.

It's this cctv! Instead of looking at the embryos for a few minutes on day 3 and 5 they have a 24 hours cctv which allows images of the embryos over 5 days like 600 of them! It means the embryologists get a better idea if how the embryos divide and therefore less likely to be chromosomally dud. Also it doesn't disturb them. They apply some algorhtym on the rate of division and score it 1-3 on how likely to it be a a good embryo. It's not that accurate as ive read stories of women who had genetic testing on the blastcoyst and there was a trisomy even though embryoscope suggested not. It's only been around since 2012 but suggests preg rates and miscarriagr rates r better (more so in the over 40 their preg rates were much better using it, small for my age group as the risk is lower already)
I get the link tmrw so I can watch the emnryo from fertilisation to tansfer day! How weird is that! But I'm not gonna watch it as I don't want to get attached to the little bean yet.
Anyways it's cost 750! But I thought why not!

That sounds absolutely amazing!! Wow! I wouldn't be able to resist watching!

Enjoy ur vino and try relax...It will work out for u (one day, so keep the faith) x

I keep getting the odd twinge in my uterus and back. Is that normal? I don't rem them before..i wonder if it's in my mind as I didn't feel them till yest!

I think it's normal to feel all sorts of twinges :)

Morning ladies!
Moving day for us!! The house is all kinds of upside down! But I'm so happy to be leaving this house and moving forward.

Drttc - the eggs are there but in the 3 months before you can do stuff to improve their quality. You should get the book in reading. It starts with an egg. It's really interesting. Especially if you're thinking you have hyper fertility.

Trying- we're choosing puppy on Sunday but they're only 4 weeks old so don't actually bring it home until it's 8weeks.

I'm 11 days post erpc and bleeding. I've had virtually nothing at all - only spotting and now it's pretty heavy and I've got period pain. This can't be ad can it?!

Congrats seeking!! How exciting. I hope the new house brings u lots of happiness and luck!
Aw how cute! I want a puppy now too! Will u put a pic up of it when it arrives?!
It could be AF? If ur hormones have fully dropped? Although I usually spot for about 1 week and then stopped and then had af. It's so annoying not knowing wots going on inside ur body! I suppose in a few days u will know. Hope it's not too draining
I've been up since 2am . Not complaining though!

Do you think it's safe to use a tampon? I hate using pads.... It def feels like af but I suppose it could be retained products making their way out too. Eurgh!!

Oh bless you - pred insomnia! Hope you manage to get a nap in later!

Will def put a pic of the puppy up when we get him

..I think it's prob best to not for infection risk? Even though it's not nice! Saying that I did once and I was ok! Sorry not v helpful...

Don't want to add an infection to the mix, pads it is! Yuk!

Hi all - sorry been off the radar, not caught up yet but just wanted to say
CONGRATULATIONS Trying... Such brilliant news????????????
Will write more later but been flat out with work changes then feeling ill with killer headaches. Am 16 tomorrow though and scan yest ok.
Top tip though.. If you get a Harmony scan you still need a nuchal scan for early indications of structural issues. I was given wrong advice from doc up north.
X

Squares represent beaming smiles!

Hey rosa! That's great ur scan went well! Is it just 20 week one now?
Thanks for ur wishes. I must say the day is going SO slowly, I want to wake up and have fast fwd a really long time. I told my acu lady yest, felt so surreal but also nice after a year to actually say those words. She's so lovely!

Sunny, good luck for tmrw xxx
Seeking hope u got through the boxes and had some champers in ur new place!
Hope the injections r ok hula and ur follicles do a nice grow this weekend! In ivf the acu ladies they tell us to use a hot water bottle to help blood flow to get ur follicles going! No harm?
Drtcc hope u enjoyed ur wine!
Waves to snoopy and determined and anyone else ive rudely forgotten xxx

I'm seriously scared now about tomorrow - not sure what I'm going to do if it's not good.

I know it's terryfing sunny. I'm going to freak out before mine (if I make it to one).
Nothing I can say to make it any more bearable. Just have faith, stay strong and rem you are on all the meds and past ur usual danger point.
It has to work one day, so why not this time?
I hope its early in am so u don't have to wait all day!

Thanks, I thinks it's so hard because we have seen a hb and had a good scan plus had no blood aside that one day which I think was breakthrough bleeding as at time when period due.

It's 11.30 so will be leaving home about 9am

I know. Instead flip it around and say it's all postive good signs and this might be ur one. All the signs suggest that.

Guys I'm prob being mad. But is a massage with baby oil on my neck and shoulders from DH ok?! No essential oils only 10-15 mins. I know they say no massage/facials in 12 weeks in spas etc, but surely a 15 min destress massage is ok? I just had one and it was blissful and now I'm panicking?!

Trying - the massage from your dh will be absolutely fine, the spa s don t like to do anything in the first 12 wks as they don t want any risk of them being blamed for a mc which obv happen much more in this time.

Good trip re the hot water bottle will give it a go tonight. Haven t felt anything on the letrozole other than tired so hoping its actually doing something.....

Thinking of you sunny tomorrow and really hoping you get reassurancr that all is well.

Tip not trip !!!

Sunny best of luck.. It does sound promising but I know it doesn't make it any easier.. Scans are always frightening after what we've been through. Sending postive vibes and have a good feeling for you x
Trying - I so know that fast forward wish.. Time really doesn't move at the same rate all the time. You do just need max R&R and so as Hula says don't worry about DH massage. It's def just companies covering their backs. But as you seem to know you do need to be careful with certain aromatherapy and best not to massage tummy area. I barely moved for 2.5 months .. Watched a lot of tv and tried to drink a lot of water and eat well. Sadly I also couldn't resist daily chocolate.. Often working out the max I could have based on caffeine recommendations!
Hula- I didn't feel anything from letrozole either. Maybe a v slight tension in head. Your dose will be upped next cycle if it hasnt helped but fingers crossed your scan shoes good results :) x

Thanks Rosa, good to know. He s started me straight on 7.5mg, not sure how high u can go. Did u feel ok with the ovitrelle shot ? Its hcg so i wondered if it ll give pregnancy like symptoms, i ve heard it can take 10 days to clear your system so i might test it out with some internet cheapies so if a miracle happens i wouldn t be wondering if its a false positive from the trigger.

Great your 16 wk scan was good, not long and you might start to feel movement (i think it was about 17-18wks with my ds tho can vary depending on where your placenta is).