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Reluctantnympho · 03/06/2015 20:22

New cycle = new hope

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DizzyMerry · 09/06/2015 23:06

I'm not giving up orgasms either. Ttc sex will just be a misery without them!

Looks like AF is starting so will contact the clinic tomorrow for an appointment. I'm actually hoping they can see us this week. I'm so impatient. I've given up on my Chinese herbs. They may or may not have threw my cycle out of whack but I'm not willing to take the chance.

Has anyone read the a model recommends blog by Ruth recently? She wrote about her own fertility issues. She was trying for 5 years before finally conceiving. It just hits home how many people face these issues but not many people talk about it.

Pixa · 09/06/2015 23:10

I have started to talk about it more openly DizzyMerry. Not to everyone though. I tell my personal trainer everything, poor woman, it's like a therapy session. Blush

I do think when it's time to tell people we are pregnant (when it happens), we will be completely honest and say that TTC-ing was a long painful journey and that I came close to seriously hurting people who have said "When's it your turn? Little Joe needs a play mate" or "Are you planning a family yet then?!".

ThePug · 09/06/2015 23:12

Oh no you've all decided to get chatty whilst I'm slogging away on my work trip and can't keep up! nomio I promise I have many hairs out of place at most times and getting up at 4am is not at all glamorous! And neither are some of the places I am having to visit! Last night's hotel was not the best and I gave up on the internet connection, tonight's is a world apart though in beautiful Co Mayo and has a spa, but I'm only just stopping working now and really need to get to bed soon after a knackering day.

Thanks for all the AF commiserations; do you know what? I'm not too sad. I'd originally said we weren't going to even try in the wtf cycle, so I weirdly don't feel to upset we've missed out on anything. And touch wood so far it isn't horribly heavy like poor mega had. I had hoped an upside of AF showing when she did would be I could make use of the outdoor hot tub at this hotel when we got here in the sunshine this afternoon but there was a smug loved up couple in it drinking champagne so I didn't think I should gatecrash.

And, provided I have a more normal cycle this month, I will be on holiday for the exact duration of the TWW which will help pass the time, although this will mean I'll have to stay off the wine and not overdo the sunbathing I guess?

I promise to have a proper catch up when I get home - I just love that you're all feeling happy & chatty & positive Smile

Oh and last thing - I've never done bum on pillow but do make sure I orgasm afterwards which was definitely the thinking behind the birthday presents from DH to speed things up after he's done his part and is no longer interested!

Pixa · 09/06/2015 23:15

I am off, it's cock o'clock time. Take care all!

Nomio230 · 09/06/2015 23:17

I agree, Pixa. If/when it happens for us, I will happily tell people how long it has taken. So many people seem to struggle, yet hardly anyone talks about it.

The crimson tide of doom has just arrived for me too, Dizzy.

DizzyMerry · 09/06/2015 23:44

Sorry AF arrived nomio. Lets throw everything at this cycle and make it the one. Do I count today as cd1 or tomorrow?

Enjoy CoC pixa Grin

Nomio230 · 09/06/2015 23:57

Hmm, not sure. Probably tomorrow I would imagine.

I agree, this will definitely be our month. Smile

chopsface · 10/06/2015 07:23

Sorry to all the af's arriving :-( but good to see some positive talk too. You must keep going! You will get there in the end!

Now I'm 'out' with my pregnancy, I'm telling people about the long lonely journey ttc was and boy does it feel good! I don't want people to think I wanted a child, had sex once and tadaaaaa! I also feel it's a bit of an education to some of my colleagues who might be as naive as I was, thinking you came off the pill, sat on the loo after your dp and got preg (ok maybe not quite that naive!) I was 32 when I started ttc and I will be nearly 36 when my first is born!

Anyway sorry about that interlude, as you were....

Augusthomotherium · 10/06/2015 07:51

Just offering a quick wave to all and sundry. Will be back once things calm down this side. Hope you're all well. Smile

ibeka · 10/06/2015 08:34

Morning of cd19 and still no temp rise..... Sad

I think the stress of SIL has stopped me ovulating....

Pikz · 10/06/2015 08:49

Oh Ibeka I am sorry Hmm

Chops I tell everyone that ds was a long and painful journey and yet I still got asked yesterday when I'm having another

DizzyNorthernBird · 10/06/2015 09:00

Hi everyone.

Hospital appt was fine yesterday, was a bit disappointing as I didn't really get any answers though. I was told I'd had a bout of mild labrinthitis earlier this year which would account for the vertigo I was getting, but the doctor shrugged off my other issues which are constant rhinitis, crackling and ringing in my ears, and catarrh in my throat which causes constant sore throats with all the swallowing I have to do Sad. I was just hoping there was a pill he could give me to get rid of it all as it's persistent and annoying!

I passed the hearing test with flying colours though which is reassuring as I was worried my hearing was damaged as the tinnitus is pretty bad at the moment. I can't remember who asked, but I worked in a nightclub for years when I was younger and I've also worked on aircraft, so I'm an ideal candidate for impaired hearing!

dizzym that's fabulous news about the appointment, I would defo go for it, that amount of money is nothing when you consider the time you will save.

Sorry to everyone who's got AF. Flowers I have no idea when mine will come because I didn't ovulate but I've been getting a lot of wet cm which is a good sign!

I agree about making sure everyone knows when it's been a difficult ttc journey. I'd hate to think there was someone listening to me banging on about a bfp and they're silently labelling me as another babybomber....being open about difficulties would hopefully give others hope!

It's such a shame ttc can be such a taboo subject though...if we could just be open about it maybe we wouldn't get insensitive questions from nosey relatives and colleagues? For some reason there's this culture of secrecy until the sacred 12 week scan....why though? Are we bringing this on ourselves? What do you all think? Would it be any easier if people knew? Maybe people would be a little more tactful?

ibeka · 10/06/2015 09:50

DizzyNorthern I kinda feel the same as you.... I have three friends in RL who I talk openly with about TTC because we are all on difficult journeys. It is such a relief when with them to be able to make the odd flippant remark and not have to hide feelings. I wish I could be more honest with other people, rather than having to lie about not wanting kids yet. It just all feels so taboo. I found the hardest thing after the MC was having to go back into a world where no one knew how much I was hurting and not be able to tell anyone. It really made work harder because people didn't know I wasn't running at full capacity. I know several ladies on the MC thread have said the same...

Incidentally, yesterday the school's attendance officer asked me how I was and told me she had a MC before her oldest daughter (who also works at the school) and a still birth after. I didn't realise she knew but think I about it of course she did because she administrates staff absence. It was so normalising to be able to be honest with someone!

DizzyNorthernBird · 10/06/2015 10:03

It's crazy isn't it ibeka, if a relative or friend died then it would be ok to tell people but for some reason with a mc it shouldn't be discussed? I would argue that both scenarios are equally distressing both short and long term, and both have difficulties when it comes to telling people, other people knowing what to say etc etc.....no one would expect someone to keep the death of a parent a secret so why the death of an unborn child?

Nomio230 · 10/06/2015 10:37

I agree. There seems to be a stigma attached to both fertility problems and miscarriage. It is almost as if we should be ashamed of ourselves for 'failing', which is ridiculous. I think the more it is talked about, the better. I used to feel so alone, but after being on here, I have realised just how common both problems are.

Dizzy, I am sorry you didn't get the result you were after. I have a relative with tinnitus and know how it can affect your life. I would ask for further tests if I were you.

Ibeka, you might still ovulate. Stress can really delay it sometimes. When we moved house I was several days late. Hope you are feeling a bit happier today.

AF is here in all her glory now. Bleugh.

fififolle · 10/06/2015 11:38

Right ladies, what's occurring here. I'm on my 2nd cycle post MC. I'm usually 28 days like clock work. I haven't been temping but have been using cb OPKs and had a smiley on 28th May (day 18). CD1 was 11th May though I had a small amount of spotting the day before.
So far, AF hasn't put in an appearance but should have been on 8th June. I'm still thinking it's too early to test (and don't want a BFN). Surely I'm technically still in the 2ww??
Boobs fine to prod too.

DizzyMerry · 10/06/2015 11:49

There definitely is a stigma attached to fertility issues. None of my family and friends have faced any of these issues so I don't feel able to talk to them about any of it. One of my friends takes delight in saying how she 'catches' easily. I detest the word 'catch' used in this context. I did tell her we were ttc but not the ins and outs. She had an awful time with both her pregnancies and labours so she stopped at two silver lining so she can't bang on about catching

Chops I also tell people how we struggled ttc #1 and now #2. I work with mostly older people who have had their families but all I used to hear how easy it was for them. A few opened up when I told them about my struggles. My SIL struggled with both hers but even she doesn't talk about it. It's sad really.

Ibeka fx you ovulate soon.

Dizzy sorry you didn't get any answers at your appointment but it's great that you passed your hearing test.

Aug it's good to see you. Look forward to hearing more from you.

I have contacted the clinic again and I'm now waiting for them to get back to me with an appointment. Hopefully we can get the diagnostic tests and HSG done this cycle. I'm ridiculously excited and now looking forward to trying again!

ibeka · 10/06/2015 12:00

DP feels we've 'failed', nomio. It makes me really sad when her says it.

I'm trying really hard to be positive today, a la Zita, and visualise my egg leaving my ovary Hmm

I go on a dofe trip on Friday for the weekend and on the school German exchange next week Thursday to Tuesday so at least if I do OV soon the TWW will be busy!!

fififolle · 10/06/2015 12:24

Ibeka you most certainly haven't failed. You got pregnant and you will get pregnant again. Unfortunately miscarriage is completely beyond our control. It can take one tiny change in the genes to stop everything in its tracks. It's is such a shame that it is seen as quite a taboo subject, it would help a lot of people if it was more openly discussed. I hope all your travels go well.

Nomio230 · 10/06/2015 13:50

Fifi, I would test, but as everyone know, I am a bit of an addict! It could be that you have a bean in there, or it could just be your body is not 100% back to normal yet. I guess only time will tell. I will have my fingers crossed for you.

Ibeka, you have not failed. The tiniest genetic abnormality can cause a baby to miscarry. It is horrible, but it is definitely not down to anything you or DH did. You will be parents soon & you will be amazing. X

megarobotdiscoparty · 10/06/2015 15:06

DizzyM brilliant news on the scan booking – full steam ahead! I really hope they come up with some answers and/or reassurance for you. Sometimes I wish we could have a little window down there to see what’s going on every day - would be so handy.

Nympho hope you’re rocking that dress! I’m a firm believer in feeling good about yourself whenever possible, denial is not a word in my vocabulary! No guilt allowed!

knickers has AF effed off yet??

Rainy hope the 2ww is being kind to you – anything to distract while you thumb-twiddle?

Boris how was the cheesecake? My absolute weakness…such a dairy fiend! Hope you ate the lot, I would have! How are AF pains today?

Pixa you are welcome at the back of the bus with your drinks trolley! Blooming eck, can I get a little umbrella in my drink please? I am pretty rubbish on recs for Nottingham as haven’t actually lived there since I was 18 (and you really don’t want 18 year old me telling you where to go, unless you like smelly rock pubs). I know Harts is the fancy fine dining place everyone raves about, but haven’t been myself. If you’re after city centre then Lace Market is a lovely area to stay in, and Hockley (which is just next to it) has lots of cool little cafes, shops and restaurants. To be honest, everywhere is in walking distance though, it’s only wee. You’ll have to go to the Trip To Jerusalem though (that’s where the chair is!) it’s an amazing pub, one of the oldest in the country and built into the rock under the castle. Hope you and DH have a restful/nice weekend planned together for some post SA tlc.

purdie HELLO!

Pug you jet-setter you! Where are you off to on hols? Not long now…

nomio sorry about AF. I know it might sound trite but I am seriously excited about this cycle for us all. It’s been ages since there’s been a rush of BFPs and I feel like we’re due some luck. This is going to be it! Grab a Pimms and join us at the back!

August hello! I hope you come back and chat to us soon!

Ibeka sorry about your temping… can we chant together to release the eggs? Would Zita approve? You shouldn’t ever ever ever feel like the MC is a failure. Wow, as if it’s not bad enough to deal with without thinking it’s your fault in any way, it just isn’t. Try and snap DP out of it, don’t let him harsh your buzz! Would he tell his best mate that he’d failed if it had happened to him? No, of course he wouldn’t. Flowers for both of you.

dizzynorth annoying to not have any answers, you would think with all those symptoms it would be a “thing” they could look at fixing…agree with nomio it might be worth chasing a second opinion. Great on the hearing test though. Gold star for your ears!

Fifi Resist the test! Resist! Who knows what voodoo these MCs wreak upon our cycles….

Fascinating to hear everyone talking about sharing their ttc stories, if and when to. I only told my best friend when we were TTC DS, I didn’t even tell my mum until well after a year of trying. I was trying to protect myself from scrutiny, but also scared of failing and not wanting others’ pity. Two other friends who had a long TTC journey talked about it quite openly, one blogged about it extensively. Both were under scrutiny in a way, I guess, but the support they got back far outweighed anything else – lots of others came out of the woodwork and joined them on their journey. Being open paid off for them, and while I’m not sure whether I’d talk about it quite so candidly, I do admire them for their courage. Incidentally both now have their babies – one on 2nd round of IVF (twins!) and one on first. I think their example is why I’m writing to all you lovely ladies now – I realise that this time round I do need to share a bit in order to get through it. I ended up in quite a dark place last time and I won’t let that happen again.

Having said that, even though I’ve been quite open about our fertility issues since DS arrived, it hasn’t stopped people making enormously insensitive comments! And I get really upset by them because I’m a massive softie! I think for a lot of people who’ve never had to go through it, they just can’t understand the agony of the journey when you don’t know when, how or whether you will get to your end point. No excuse for being a dick though, is it really Angry

DizzyMerry · 10/06/2015 16:08

You most definitely haven't failed ibeka. Some things are just out of our control and we just need to accept that. It will happen for you and you will get your sticky bean Flowers

Robot lovely outcomes for both your friends. I'm like you in the sense that I won't talk about it openly with everyone and to some I just say it takes time for some of us and leave it at that. You're right even those who know still ask "so when are you planning another one?" "Get a move on" etc. It's annoying and I try my best to avoid such situations.

I'm having the period from hell Angry I took the day off work because I can barely move without it all gushing out.

megarobotdiscoparty · 10/06/2015 16:19

Oh no Merry! Batten down the hatches, we've got another gusher! Hope you've got some serious chocolate over there love. You have my utmost sympathies! Hope she eases off soon, the naughty witch.

Queenbee30 · 10/06/2015 16:35

I'm on my way home to sit at my laptop and catch up on all the chat I've missed!

ibeka · 10/06/2015 17:54

Cheers ladies. I don't feel we've failed - just that we've been a bit unlucky. I wish he would cut himself some slack....

mega I downloaded Zita's relaxation MP3. She is a big fan of visualising your ovaries doing their thing. I feel she would definitely approve of chanting. Let's give it a go!

Oh dizzym! I hope you've got sufficient gin and chocolate to keep you going through the gush.