smack those rats, sniff those drugs; we dont care how, but we will get our babies and we are BROOKING NO ARGUMENT

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There's definitely a pink line there Loopy. Is this using FMU?

Would you regret not having a third?

That question is not very easy for me to answer. I feel so very fortunate to have the children I already have, as both girls took a long time (and fertility investigations/Clomid for dd2). I pined for them both, but the aching for dd2 took it out of me. I didn't think I'd get pg again; I literally would have sold my soul to have her. I just couldn't go back to the place I was before having dd2 so that incessant, obsessive, intrusive and hurting want for a child ... I don't know. I think I may have switched it off, subconsciously speaking.

So, I don't think I would regret not having a third, but I might always wonder 'what if'. If I take the plunge, I would ttc for a maximum 1 year (from now!) because of the age gaps between my children. I wouldn't have more than 8 and 5y (no judgement against anyone else's choices there, btw). I'm looking at a 7y/4y gap. I keep imagining a 10yo/7yo/3yo; 17yo/14yo/10yo - as my eldest dd grows, there would always be a much younger child in the house. That is appealing

As I'm rambling here, maybe we should just stop trying to prevent a pg? My head keeps getting in the way. Imps, you are so wise

"Oh well"s are always better than "what if?"s Mol. I say stop trying to prevent and let nature decide.

mol it sounds like one of the main issues is around length of time to conceive so why not give it a go for a month. Surely if you got lucky in that one month then a lot of what you worry about wouldn't be an issue and crudely doing a pg test with a real possibility of a positive is what firmly decided things for me. It was negative and I was really disappointed. Think it could be worth a go at least?

loopy my dear a line is a line!

Sorry to jump in with this but did I mention that we also found out we are having a little girl!

Oooooh a pink Brooking bean!! (Not that I'm gender stereotyping). How lovely Hinks :)

hinky, I know you're right and just need to be brave and do it. It's a risky little trick, but it's probably what needs to be done in my case.

Congratulations on your wonderful news!

We did what hinky mentioned. didn't start obsessively ttc, but just stopped "not trying" and got v lucky

I think I'd have been doing a lot of what if Mol. I can't imagine not having little DD around now after only 5 weeks. It is a bit ... busy...sometimes, but her big brothers are very sweet with her, especially my 3 yo.

I do sometimes look at the 3 of then together with a face like this though! Still can't quite believe she's here.

We're still just getting used to it, but it feels like it was the right thing to "see what happened" so far. I think I'd have got quite obsessive and super broody if I'd have decided not to ttc at all.

Babies don't take up much space when they're tiny. ;)

Congratulations on your news hinky.

Brooking for imps follies!

Loopy I can't see your pic in my phone right now, brooking for that line!

hinky huge congrats, a lovely little girl!!
loopy are you having your HCG monitored? Its the only way to see what is going on, test sticks can be lighter or darker for all sorts of reasons, mine did not get dark until 16dpo but my HCG was doubling nicely.

imps yay for follicles. I was on cetrotide, (had to take them at 5am!!), I can't quite remember how to make them up but I do remember you have to put it in at 45 degrees and they are stingy little things.

Follicles, lines and pink beans, what a fabulous week in brooking world! So glad I came back :)

Woah, just signing in using the website instead of the app and it's a whole new world! Definitely a line loopy; fabulous blanket imps and I believe in the possibility of those stalks.

We met up with some friends this afternoon and one has the most beautiful 6mo baby. My girls were quite smitten and couldn't do enough for her. I got to have a snuggle and almost melted. What got me was seeing my dds get involved with the baby. It made the possibility of another cd seem tangible and ... nice.

I made the error of speaking to my dm this evening and I relayed this to her. She basically said 'that's nice dear, but dds 1&2 will be at school soon - marvellous!' End of conversation.

Doubts beset me yet again and I chickened out again this evening, I'm disappointed to say.

DH and I talked after and I let out a lot of what's been buzzing around my head. Despite my concerns, he thinks he's certain I'll regret not at least trying, say, in 5y time, when it really will be too late. So we've agreed to stop preventing, give it a year and see where we are.

I wish my DM would talk to me properly about all this.

Anyone know if it's okay to have The Sex on day 3 of the short protocol?

Asking for a friend.

Imps I can't help your "friend" as its a world I know nothing about.

As for me looks like MC number 6 is imminent. Test line was a bit lighter yesterday and woke up feeling crampy today and did another frer and the line is much fainter today. So despite having proper bfps from Monday, and being on progesterone since Tuesday and clexane since Wednesday, it's still not worked

I'm so sorry Loopy x

Oh Loopy I'm really sorry

I feel like there must be more your consultant do to advise you - it may be me getting the wrong impression, but it feels a bit like you've been left to guess when to start prog/clexane and they haven't really been proactive.

Sorry if that's completely inaccurate but I'm sad/annoyed for you.

sorry loopy, I agree there not being v specific

imps tell your 'friend' it'd be fine... not for much longer though. I think I will on my fet cycle though

Oh Loopy {{hugs}} so sorry to hear that :(

Oh sweet Jesus, I think I actually want another baby ...

Loopy

How are you doing this morning Loopy?

Hope you had nice weekends. I was away with Mr I for a long weekend - my first ever totally dry long weekend away - not a drop of booze crossed my lips. Bit difficult actually, but I survived. Bit annoyed that Mr I didn't join me in the abstinence but there we go.

Happy Mondays all.

how's the stabbing going imps? I am weeing on sticks, expecting a surge by sunday

Stabbing's going fine thanks Keep - just one injection (Gonal-F) at the moment so not looking at all pin-cushiony. Next scan and bloods tomorrow a.m. - really hope the follies are behaving themselves this time.

How many frosties do you have Keep?

ooh, brooking for you tomorrow!! have you told work at all? or can you just pop out?
we have 3 frosties. but obv were frozen abroad so I'm v nervous about defrost...

I've not told work anything. Luckily we're often out and about at meetings and lunches so it doesn't look too curious for me to be out. Am lying completely about where I'll be though, which I feel bad about, but that's just that really.

Defrosting will be fine. Do they do one at a time? Will you have one or two put back?

loopy so sorry, not sure what to suggest at this stage, maybe some immunes testing?

imps yay go with the stabbing , brooking for loads of follies!
keep when is the defrost?

yes they will do one, and if it doesn't defrost they can do another. we are just putting one back
just hope there's no crisis and someone looks for you