Positive Decembr - All aboard for Santa to bring a BFP!!

[MrsMcJnr]

Well, I thouht I'd better start this thread as I am CD1 of my 6th cycle of trying for our very precious first baby. This is going to be a lucky and positive thread, I can feel it so I'm laying down the babydust now so that as you join me, you can collect your dose .

For those who join me, what are you doing differently this cycle?

Sorry that it wasn't to be Cityangel, I really am but hey, it'll soon be testing time again and it would be a wonderful day to get your BFP!

Morning everyone. CD14 today but my boobs are sore already - is that a definate sign that OV is finished? Can I stop harrassing DP?!

Impatience, I know exactly how you feel. Two things to say though - a friend at work is pregnant, she is due the week before I would have been before M/c. I dreaded going back to work but in all honesty it is fine. I'm just trying to look to the future, hoping my luck is better next time! Also my DS seemed to get so big so quickly, that for quite a while after he was born I was jealous of my friends having tiny babies again! This way I will be having my tiny baby after them IYSWIM and I don't sound completely twisted?!

Also as I have learnt - a BFP isn't the be all and end all. If I get one after this month I plan to keep schmum about it untill 12 weeks. However, if I were to fall this month their won't be a lot of point, many of my work friends know we are trying and if I'm not 100% plastered at the works party next month they will all be guessing why! That sounds absolutely awful but I hope you realise the sentiment isn't supposed to be.

I hope my ramblings help a bit!

MMJ - wonderful news about DH I hope he does make it home today.I# I reckon you should resign - its a friday after all so what a nice way to start the weekend!

City sorry to see you here, but like kit kat says, what a lovely day to have a BFP!

Flossam - That's my dilema today too, I'm CD14 as well and wondering if it's worth another go tonight so to speak

Are your boobs sore?! I only ask because Impatience seemed to think that was a sign that the 2WW had begun...

Maybe a bit, but not really - you know how it is when you are looking for something though, you start to think am I just imagining it all

Probably best to go for it tonight anyway although I am feeling less inclined to do so...Aha a sign?

Morning all

Now MrsMcJnr, I hate to get all school marm on you, but the rules of the december thread were...

• don't talk about the december thread ( only joking)
• relax, stay positive and calm
• NO SYMPTOM SPOTTING!!!

To quote natty:
"so when i am 3/4 DPO and saying i have a feeling, i have slight cramps, my boobs hurt feel free to give me a cyber slap in the face and pull myself together. "

sorry if that's sounds strict, I don't mean it like that - just totally agree with Kittiwake about imagining more symptoms than are really important.

Thank you to KitKat, McJ, Kittiwake & Flossam for being lovely. It's such a relief to share these feelings with people who know what I'm talking about.

I feel a nasty bitterness towards people who conceive first time, about them not having earned their pg, by not having felt the pain of not conceiving. I am very unhappy about turning into such a resenting, twisted old bitch!

Ready: I know what you mean about that horrible certainty that it hasn't worked. I feel that most months just after ov. Felt it this week. I want to claw the time back and have another go, do it at a different time, eat something different, anything that I at that moment seize upon as the reason why this month just won't have worked. I'm sorry you feel so glum, and so panicky. At least if it was just a depression you could sink - panic makes you feel you should DO something, and there just isn't anything you can do. Better resign yourself to depression, babe! I hope this feeling goes away soon.

CityAngel: You'll be reliving the christmas eve excitement of childhood!

And Flossam, I don't know that sore boobs are a sign that ov is over for everyone. You get an increase in oestrogen on the run up to ov, and that ccan make some people's boobs sore. For me, it is always post ov. It used to be just the last few days before af, but these days it's almost as soon as ov is over. Either my hormones are stronger, I'm much more sensitive, or I've made my boobs tender from the constant squeezing to see if they hurt as a sign of pregnancy!

Geek, I shall pop my cyberhead over McJ's cybershoulder when you wield that slap, because I could do with it too!

Impatience I know exactly what you mean. And you are not alone...Am dreading Christmas because of seeing my sister who will be 22 weeks. AF due on 19th Dec so bbig chance I will not be feeling hugely positive over xmas as well.
Have also found myself avoiding 2 groups of friends as they both have people who are pregnant in...I hate myself for being like this! I think I will just remind myself of Mrs McJnr's very good point that BFPs are not some limited supply and just because someone else is pregnant doesn't mean they've taken my chance! But it's difficult sometimes...
Hugs anyway

Impatience - I conceived both of my kids first cycle (DS with just one shag!)

yet here I am cycle 2. I KNOW that is hardly any time at all but just proving that I have a track record of getting pregnant at the drop of a hat and I didnt last month so there is every chance that she wont either.

((hugs))

i know you lot have all decided to try and minimise the symptom spotting, but this is my first month ttc and would welcome any info on things that could happen to body during the 2ww if you were successful - or would any symptoms be all in the mind at such an early stage?

Coyld someone please explain the abbreviation to me.They are going WAY over my head.

As a 'positive in November' graduate am I allowed to gatecrash here {please!!}

MrsMcj - Very very pleased that DH may be coming home early!!! Thats great news... Have you got the bed in position downstairs? I reckon you'll enjoy spending your evenings curled up in bed watching TV so much that you'll keep it there

Impatience - So sorry to hear you feeling down, but these threads have had loads of women (including me) who got PG easily within one month but then took a while the next time round. As has been said, it is a bit of a lottery.

Good luck to you all and we'll be watching this with baited breath at the beginning of December - eeeek, I'm excited already

MadameButterfly - there is an acronym list at the top under useful stuff - just look there and it should tell you all you need to know.

Hi Mirry. Big hugs to you too. I hope Christmas isn't too tricky. If it were my sister I'd find that even harder than if it were anyone else who were pg, all that sibling stuff tied in. Hopefully you will not still be ttc at christmas, having just a few days earlier got your bfp!

And it's a real shame that you're avoiding your friends. Do they know how you feel?

How much easier it would be to decide we didn't want children!

Becca, thanks for your story. Although two at first shot and now you just having one false start doesn't convince me terribly of your infertility Congrats to you for having had an easy time before, and don't take the resentment of my earlier post to heart please

Thanks Chooster too.

Really, I'm starting to feel a bit mean: I don't really wish my friend to have to take months to conceive you know - she's lovely!

Impatience! You are not a "resenting twisted old bitch". You are a woman!!! It's perfectly natural to feel jealous. Thankfully none of my friends have fallen pg since we started ttc, they've all had their babies or have no intention at the mo, but I know if one of them does I will be a green eyed monster . You are not alone in feeling this!

Also, you have explained what I am feeling better than I could. It's like a cold sweat panic, and it's very strange indeed. Literally my arms are tingly with panic. The first 2 months ttc when AF arrived I was low for a bit, but I haven't even OVd this cycle and already I feel weird.

MrsMcJnr - I know you are right, it's too early to know anything. I am going to BD again tonight, and tomorrow . Of course I need to keep calm. I am trying .
Did MrMcJnr get the hotties doing the rounds last night?? And did you get to Ann Summers for your own outfit for a "hotty round" at home??

Mirry71 - Good positive attitude! Well done you. Sorry to hear that you will be faced with your pg sister. But with AF due on the 19th, you might have your own teeny bump to think about fingers crossed.

Did Geekinpigtails quote Natty? I miss Natty.

Kittiwake (cycle bud ) - I say GO FOR IT again tonight, otherwise you might be thinking "if only I had gone for it on CD14"!!

Flossam (cycle bud ) - Sorry to hear about your sore (o)(o) Do you chart your temps or anything to judge when you OVd? I would say keep going with the BDing for a bit

20smum - Welcome to our sleigh!! I would always say to wait as long as you possibly can before testing after AF doesn't show. But that's just me. You have to do what you are most comfortable with! Good luck!

Minshu - Bless your DH for thinking it is his "fault". I really think that neither party should ever feel to blame, even if something shows up as wrong with them. Life is a struggle at times, it's how you deal with it that's important, not whose to blame. Not saying you are blaming him by the way, just throwing my tuppence worth

CityAngel - Sorry about AF chick! Onwards and upwards. How exciting that you could get your BFP on Christmas Day... what a gift!!

Greedy - Have you tried MrsMcJnr's science experiment to determine the difference between Cm and BabyGravy?? Also I bumped your post about bleeding throughout the cycle, and someone did answer...

MadameButtefly - There is an acronym list in the useful stuff above. It'll sort you right out

Chooster - Yay!! glad you are still about. You are most welcome on this sleigh! How are you feeling?? Any different?? Tell tell tell.

Everyone else... sorry I haven't mentioned you by name... it's not that I don't care ((hugs)).

xxx

Ready you didnt mention me, you dont care boo hoo

Impatience - haha yes, sorry i have to laugh at my attempts to make you feel better with my tales of super fertility. Have a gut feeling that I will struggle this time.

I was convinced that the fertility statue at blackpool pleasure beach gave me DD first month - maybe give that a try !!!

And dont feel mean, I totally get what you mean - of course you dont wish your friend ill its just SNOT FAIR is it

THank you. I will have a look.

Good afternoon ladies - what's with all us November graduates who keep crashing your thread. You're all just so lovely!

20s mum - I don't think there's a definitive list of 2ww symptoms. I remember reading that you could be pg but still be convinced af was coming.. and I thought to myself "yeah yeah.." however it's totally true. I was completely convinced that af was coming just before my bfp.

The only weird symptom I had (that I desperately tried to describe on the Oct/Nov thread) was a strange twisting feeling in my nipple... like it had been threaded and someone was twisting the thread. However i'm happy to report that this freakishness may just be me. Boobs also felt quite heavy - but weren't any bigger.

Good luck to you all and gallons and gallons of twinkly sparkly baby dust to you all

Beccarolloveragain - Sorry chick!! Didn't intentionally miss you out I am intrigued about this fertility statue... tell us about it

Sorry to all the people fealing jealous and generally icky about pregnant friends. I'm actually the other way round at the mo - I don't have any close friends who are pregnant, but whenever I bump into a distant friend who is pg I feel REALLY curious and nosy and actually have to hold myself back from grilling them about every little detail of what they're going through! Maybe it's just coz no-one in my close friendship group has had kids yet, i dunno...

MadameButterfly, there are a couple of abbreviations that I know aren't listed and confused me at first. 2ww is the (roughly) two week wait between ovulation and AF. DPO stands for days past ovulation. Erm, I'm sure there are more, so just ask about specific ones if you're still stuck.

20smum - obviously being kidless at the mo I don't really know, but the books all say that it can take around 10 days for the fertilised egg to actually implant into your uterus, it's just floating around until then. So I'm not expecting any symptoms until at least 10DPO.

Blackpool Fertility Statue!!!!

lots of people on the noticeboard claiming it works!

hey perve (yes, you impatience!) i took 6 months to get pg with ds, 1 month with dd and 7 months so far this time....there is just no telling! your friend might take years and end up feeling resentful of you when you have your triplets!
becca! i am shocked! how old are your kids? my ds (3.4) told me the other day he wanted to see daddy put the seed in my tummy, but we didnt put on a show for him like you did! how did you manage it? i could never get away with doing it and not getting caught!
ready - thanks for bumping me! we havent BD'd for past 2 nights so i havent been able to try MrsMcSpinks test yet!