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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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The Angry Pubes of Bumsnet

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juneybean · 11/04/2015 14:04

No wankers allowed.

BFPs for everyone!

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DizzyMerry · 13/04/2015 16:01

I'm pleased that you stood your ground sparkly and it's about time they started taking this seriously. You and DH make a great team and he sounds so lovely. Get all the rest you can and look after yourself, you're having an exhausting time mentally and physically. I really hope you get your answers. Sending Flowers and positive vibes.

You asked about increasing clomid but I'm not on this. I'm just dithering now and can't decide what to do from one minute to the next re NHS and private!

MelonMelon · 13/04/2015 16:03

Yes if you phone on the day you can get an emergency appointment but it's not an emergency In my eyes! It's a long time to wait but I don't know if there's anything they can do to make my AF come back so whether I go tomorrow or in 2 weeks won't make much difference?

Pikz · 13/04/2015 16:04

Sparkly am so pleased you got the time you deserve

I bled with DS not clots but quite a bit. Apparently was just a bedding in bleed. Am crossing everything for you.

Mummy if it helps this cycle I finally ov on cd28!!! No idea why I can only think my bad tube tried to give it a go and failed and the other side kicked in. Now 1dpo so will have a 40 day cycle. Have started temping to try and work it all out. I have just done eod since cd11 and will keep going til mid week just in case

Baker47 · 13/04/2015 16:04

Sparkly thanks for updating - I've been thinking about you lots today. I'm so glad you got to go in and talk through everything - really hope it will provide some insight into everything and good that it will all be noted in your records too.

Keeping everything crossed for you and sending lots of positive thoughts for the meantime Flowers

Sparkly123 · 13/04/2015 16:07

Thanks Mummy I wish I could help re ovulation. But I don't know if gp will do bloods after cycle three. We got them before TTC but that was because we were doing AI. It's important to know if you are OVing obviously for TTC so if your temps are saying no and you are taking then correctly I would maybe monitor this cycle and if nothing again could you maybe afford a blood test outwith NHS? I can't think of any other solution.. I understand if your chart is doing nothing every month that you don't want to keep trying for no reason.. So you should know as soon as you can, sorry if you have already said this my heads a bit muddled but is every cycle the same??

Sweets27 · 13/04/2015 16:09

Oh sparkly how exhausting. Well done for standing your ground with your lovely supportive DH. At least you have had a bit more light shed on the situation - I am sure the wait til Weds will be really hard, and totally understand you not wanting to get your hopes up but I've got FX for you nonetheless. Flowers

GlitteryLipgloss1 · 13/04/2015 16:18

Thanks for checking back in Sparkly, have been thinking of you lots wondering how you are getting on. You go girl! Don't ever be fobbed off when you know something isn't quite right! Bless your DH he sounds lovely.

Have faith in yourself, try try try not to stress, get some proper lovely rest and try and let yourself become distracted. I am glad they pulled their socks up a bit.

Lets sit tight and see what Wednesday brings, in the mean time you take it easy

loopylou1984 · 13/04/2015 16:24

Sparkly - I'm so glad she was nice to you. Hope you're doing okay, am keeping everything crossed for you Smile Xx

dojo123 · 13/04/2015 16:25

sparkly so glad you were able to go in and get a scan and see the consultant even if only briefly. Everything is firmly crossed that you little bean is clinging on where it should be and the the bleeding does not mean you're losing it. Lots of hugs to you and you DH sound like exactly the support you need though you know you also have a bus load of cheerleaders here for you too.

eskimo chocolate chip here!

purdiepie · 13/04/2015 16:45

Sparkly! Hurrah for recorded pregnancy and beta bloods! You are most definitely pregnant and those stupid bastards are going to have to sort you out one way or another. Ectopic is not a nice thought but I agree it's seeming like a possibility. You are already steeling yourself for the worst...now let's have a peek at a possibility of a healthy, functioning (but naughty) embryo on there! Wow! Thick, healthy lining. Hmm....what now? Let's hope you're just a prolific pregnancy bleeder (there's plenty of them all over the pregnancy forums here on MN). I'm just so happy that you are recorded now as officially pregnant. Ugh. Wednesday going to come slooooowly isn't it? Lots of prayers, my darling...lots of prayers.

Oooh, by the way, when you let us know what your beta result is this evening I can find out for you what it's supposed to be for this point past ovulation. That's if you want me to Hmm Thanks

chopsface · 13/04/2015 16:47

Glad you were listened to sparkly I'm routing for you here too!

If af isn't here tomorrow I'll do a test, promise!

Mummyofonesofar · 13/04/2015 17:01

Pikz were you using opks? When did you get a surge?

Thanks sparkly I am not sure what tests would cost privately. Last cycle there was a definite shift at ov but they only stayed up for 4 days before it started dropping and the first month I think I ov'd really late and was rocky but only high for 4 days.

Sparkly123 · 13/04/2015 17:01

Hi loves!

Thanks so much for all the wise words and support you are all fantastic.

Trunchbull is up to her old tricks again! She just rang me...

Beta is 49 Sad she then said that my period is only due today based on average cycles.(she had me down as longest 31) I said no, my cycles are only 27 and 28 days. 31 was from January that's the only time! Urgh! Anyway, she said that I would only just have been pregnant then and that in future I should test when a week late so this doesn't happen.. Eh so be obvious of this happening?! No thanks!! She said she was expecting my beta to be in the thousands?!? And then I asked is 49 extremely low and unheard of at this stage? And she said no. contradiction Hmm she then decided to put my scan and next bloods back to Thursday. I think she thinks it's def a chemical as she mentioned that "it's only a few cells at this stage" ( still turns into a baby though in my book!). She said that I will prob just have bleeding now like a period and if so my hospital test will be negative on Thursday when I go. I then proceeded to tell her that as this happened in January, that's two in space of three cycles and that I can't continue to put my body through this given my health, she said "I know I know. But we will not investigate mc until you have had three and so far you have only had one" Angry I explained that in January the same thing happened to which she replied that the hospital urine was negative then so it's not recorded!! Mary Sound familiar?! Angry so I said what was I to do carry on like this and impact my health? She said "well you could take a break for a while let your body recover and then try again" WHAT! So what good will that do? Take a recovery time only to then go through it at a later date? It doesn't fix the issue! I'm not prepared to go through this another two times on the NHS when I have already twice just so they can keep their boxes ticked.
So.. At the mo, I wait until Thursday. But what do you girls think? Look for a private consultant in meantime just so a plan in place? I'm gonna be scared to try again and the same happen, as positively as I think of it all the fact it's happened twice at the same point in a short space of time is always gonna play on my mind and I want help going forward.

Sparkly123 · 13/04/2015 17:03

Ps Purds she also said ectopic very unlikely at such low beta so that's a relief Star

ibeka · 13/04/2015 17:10

sparkles so glad you had a more caring experience this time! I for one am going to go with the theory you are just a profile pregnancy bleeder, as purdles so eloquently puts it. I know one story does not scientific evidence make but my boss's wife bled through her whole pregnancy. She actually went to the doc because she had had a two week period, turned out she was 4 weeks pregnant.

Dizzy sorry for AF and also the test results. My instinct would be to find out how long for NHS appointment and if not too bad do that. That might be because my only experience of private healthcare was the abominable sonographer who was so callous about my MC. I'm sure there are wonderful practitioners so if NHS is going to be a long wait and you can afford it, may be worth looking at.

night, so sorry AF got you :-( How annoying, when you're feeling ill anyway. Re. temping, I am also a night time pee-er. I set myself the following rules based on a 7am alarm: If I woke before 4am I went for a pee. If I woke after 6 I just temped early. If I woke between 4 and 6 I lay very still ignoring the need to pee and made myself go back to sleep. I got a beautiful looking chart and even seemed to train myself not to wake up needing to pee so much!!

mummy I am the complete opposite - desperate to get away from the chain shops and the hustle of London and into the middle of nowhere! I hope this doesn't sound wrong but... I think I lot of people with unexpected BFPs when young feel that way - please don't take it as a 'sign' that things won't work out again. The reason docs don't take charts seriously is because, although they can be a great help for us obsessive types, we are all so different that they can be confusing or inaccurate. You may just be a person whose temps fluctuate slightly differently or whose temps fluctuate too much/quickly to spot a reliable pattern easily.

bakers what cake did you make?!

My news is that I rang the EPU. She said as it is very faint to keep checking and she'll ring me at the end of the week to see where we are. She asked me lots of questions about how I'm feeling and about any signs of infection etc. and didn't seem to worried. I don't know how everyone at that EPU manages to be such lovely caring people when their job must be do depressing!

Anyone heard from Autumn? I'm wondering how her midwife appointment went and not seen her since the previous thread...

Sparkly123 · 13/04/2015 17:15

Ibeka great step forward for you. So glad they were helpful and that they are keeping on top of things by monitoring you now. I had wondered about Autumn too I hope she is ok

Mummyofonesofar · 13/04/2015 17:22

ibeka I'm sure I'm being ridiculous. I will try to stay calm. Thanks.

Hairstylisttoboris · 13/04/2015 17:23

Did you see this?! bbc.in/1aJOH8p

Pikz · 13/04/2015 17:33

Mummy I had several surges but knew it wasn't proper ov and then cd 26 and 27 very dark opk ewcm and my normal ov pain. It was just a case of being patient.

Sparkly how stupid. Am crossing everything and hoping you prove her wrong on Wednesday or Thursday

ibeka · 13/04/2015 17:34

mummy not nearly as ridiculous as I frequently am! x

ibeka · 13/04/2015 17:44

sparkles just realised we cross-posted - can't believe the change! Who is 'above' Trunchbull? Can you write an official letter explaining and asking your records be changed to reflect the MC in January? Can your GP be of any help? Not sure if you're in a rural or busy area but are you confined to that hospital trust or can you get a second opinion from another?

Pixa · 13/04/2015 17:47

Oh Sparkly, I really wish I was more knowledgeable about this. I would also consider trying to go above Trunchbull.

Praying that you have some clear answers soon.

cremedecacao · 13/04/2015 17:54

Sparkly how frustrating!!! Perhaps ring GP and see if they can do anything? They MUST be a way of getting January's chemical recorded, surely? Seems wrong! If you can afford it, perhaps investigations could happen privately. I have absolutely no idea about costs though.

Rainy34 · 13/04/2015 18:01

Sparkly I can't believe that they are not taking you miscarriage in January is number one, total disgrace, hoping that its not a chemical, fingers crossed for you

I saw my lovely doctor and she is going to refer us to fertility clinic , i have to have the day 3 and 21 day blood tests, she said i can do the 7 day before period this month , to help get the ball rolling, she said that some women can spot and it may not affect us getting pregnant but it cold be my progesterone lowering and if it is there is lots of things they can do, DH has to do a sperm sample too, she also said to do lots of sex

DaisyDuckSW15 · 13/04/2015 18:11

sparkly hugs. Well done for pushing to be seen this morning. It's good to know they took you seriously. I don't really understand all the technical aspects, but really hope you're staying hopeful. Good luck xxx