We might be over 40 but we are young at heart, taking our supplements, shagging on time and waiting for the precious BFP!Over 40's TTC, join us here...

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Starting the new thread, Cloudjumper.

Anyone over 40, trying to conceive, whether it is your first or 6th (or more), we're facing the obstacles together.

I've been at it for 6 years now, but there are plenty of good news stories from these threads over the years.

Come and join us with your worries, woes,successes and milestones, we are here to support one another in our quest.

New to mumsnet. Iam 44 and wondering if it is even possible to fall pregnant at this age. I have 3 children and would like to add a fourth to my life. My husband is happy if it happens . Any success stories of having a baby at 44?

Is possible.Many of us have fallen pg at such age and there are also stories of going to term at this age. Go for it while you can!

Emerald, perfectly natural to feel those emotions when desperate to hold our own little one. This too shall pass. Keep believing

Sofia, welcome and yes! I am 44 and almost 12 wks pregnant. I do have a decent AMH of 5 and I do believe this test is a valid indicator of ttc success in your forties, although we know that miracles can and do happen for those with even undetectable AMH.

Grizzer, how is the bleeding? Cloud, how are you?

Rant away emerald It is so normal - dealing with the fallout from mc is hard, it comes in waves. Don't be hard on yourself.

Welcome artio I am so sorry for your losses, what an ordeal you have been through!

And welcome sofia It's definitely possible, there are plenty of success stories on here! I'm 43 and coming up to 16 weeks pregnant, and I will be just shy of 44 when this one is born. And my AMH was cr**, by the way
It might not be an easy ride, many of us have experienced miscarriages, some had to have interventions, but we are still very much in the race.

I'm doing OK - have booked a private reassurance scan for Saturday because I cannot face waiting until the Week 20 one, it would drive me crazy... But feeling less sick, energy is coming back, so hopefully all good signs.

Thanks for the welcomes. :)

So, AF arrived today, which has freaked me out a bit as it was just a 22 day cycle this month, and a 25 day one last month. I've never actually tracked my cycles before, so I've no idea if they're normally so short, or irregular, but now I've been worrying myself that it means there's a problem with ovulation. Does anyone know, if I'm getting strong positives on OPKs, could I still not actually be ovulating? Or does a positive mean you are definitely ovulating?

Welcome Sofia the rate I'm going I'm also looking at 44 now to have another baby. Jass it's good to know there are success stories about it.

Flotilla thank you, I will keep believing and great to hear you're pg at 44. Good point on the AMH though, mine is low/undetectable unfortunately but I did still get pg albeit not successful one. I'm still hoping for a miracle.

Thanks Cloud you are so right it does come in waves when you least expect it too. Good to hear your pg going well and you had low AMH too! Good luck for Saturday, it's a long wait for the 20wk.

Artio*I'm not sure but I think s positive opk does indeed mean you're ovulating! Some people's cycles are shorter than others.

Forgot to say I'm feeling more positive today, despite a male colleague at work being slightly dismissive of my MCs. Just had to remind myself that he doesn't really understand.

Artio, indeed it is possible to get strong pos opks and yet not ovulate. Only temping willtellcyou wether you do or not.

Hi I'm trying to catch up having spent the last couple of days wrapping up my work for this school year.

Artio I'm so sorry to hear about your youngest son. That's so so sad and so recent. As others have said you are incredibly brave. It probably sounds ridiculous to say this but I think I can understand the obsession with focusing on ttc. Sometimes we become determined to do something even if working it through logically would not bring us to the same conclusion. Sometimes I think logic has to go out of the window. I definitely understand how it's difficult to put our age out of mind.

Flottila thanks for the welcome. I'm showing signs of ovulation and I really can't see myself passing up an opportunity when we don't get that many a year what with long cycles or travelling etc. Only worried that acupuncturist implied that I might be vulnerable to another cp etc at the moment. Hmmm.

Hi joey yes this is a lovely thread I hope you are having a nice holiday.

Ozmund, I'm sorry for your losses. How are you coping at the moment?

JassS that's really interesting what you are saying about implantation. I can see you are very knowledgeable from reading upthread. Hopefully your next tww will come along soon!

Welcome Shira. It must be a real relief you are now sharing this sometimes frustrating rollercoaster of a time with a good partner now. It must be a relief after your previous experience. Shit partners and babies really are a pretty terrible mix.

Hello Fatty - four more days to go now? Fingers crossed for you.

Emerald I hope you are feeling much better now. The combination of evil AF hormones, the hope before and awful disappointment are a brutal combination. Maybe you are back on track again? I'm sorry your colleague was so insensitive.

Hi Sofia. Hopefully you'll get your 4th baby soon.

All the best with your scan Cloud and I'm glad you are feeling better. It took me a good 14/15 weeks before I moved out of those first trimester feelings with DS. Urgh!

Artio- I might not be the right person to talk about this now but I have just got my third lot of positive opks this month. So my body clearly geared up for ovulation twice (cd 4 and cd10) and now is trying again (cd16 which is more like my usual time). This hasn't happened to me before and could be linked to having a cp last month and a hormonal fallout but it does go to show that positive opk does not necessarily lead to ovulation although it mostly does. Some anovulatory (sorry sp) charts can show positive opk as I've seen from fertility friend. I usually use temping to confirm ovulation and this is easiest for me to get on with. I wouldn't worry too much about the occasional short cycle but keep an eye out for future patterns. If you want to be 100% certain of ovulation, I think you need to go to the doc for Day 4 and Day 21 tests.

Hi to all the new people. And good luck to everyone!

V interested in what you said JassS about implantation. For me, however, I've gone from getting pregnant as soon as I tried to absolutely nothing in over three years. It's like a switch went at forty. There have been three or four times when I was convinced I was pregnant, and was even late, but never got as far as testing on those occasions, so can't even say there have been chemicals.

My GP practice is not very sympathetic as I already have children, and so I haven't brought it up with them for a while... But when last tested I was ovulating every month and during a scan for ovarian cysts a year or so ago they told me my follicle levels were those of a much younger woman (cue a couple of months of total smugness... ).

I'm taking tons of supplements, but no BFP... V fed up...

I know there are a lot of newbies & I will read back & catch up on all your news but this one is a bit me me me I'm afraid.
I woke up at midnight in a little puddle of blood. I went to the loo & peed blood & then it seemed to ease but now it's back. No pain at all. My next appointment is on Tuesday & I know i can't wait that long. I don't know whether to go through the rigmarole of a&e to try to get a scan or ring the local private hosp & just pay to be seen straight away. I think I prefer that option but if it's all gone wrong then I assume I'd have to do the a &e thing anyway. I guess, at least I'd know while I am waiting.....
I'm 14 weeks now & was beginning to plan ahead. Even dh talked about how to manage Christmas this year!
Positive thoughts please ladies, positive thoughts

A quick jump on here a I just read grizzer's post. I think you should get yourself seen asap. At 14 weeks they should start to take the bleeding more seriously than they would at an earlier stage. I would do whatever is quickest. If you don't you will only drive yourself nuts with worry, so best get it checked out. Fingers crossed for you and I hope all is ok.

Grizzer so sorry to hear your update. Hope you are getting yourself seen and there is good news.

Total thank you, I'm feeling much better today, I guess there will be good and bad days.

Grizzer so sorry to hear about your bleeding, must be very scary, can you go to EPU still? I would get checked soon as possible.

Jass you do sound very knowledgeable, I have not been temping but sounds like I should? Do any other ladies not temp? Bit worried now about relying on opk test and it might mean I'm not ovulating as thought they were reliable.

Sending positive thoughts Grizzer, I know how horrible the not knowing is. Hope you get seen quickly.

I now think I probably had a chemical pregnancy this cycle - AF is well and truly here, so definitely not pregnant, but I wanted a glass of wine last night so tested because I was being paranoid. It was negative, but then I glanced at it a couple of hours later and there was a clear coloured line. I know you're supposed to discount any results after 10 mins, but I've read that a colored line can only be a positive, so I guess a chemical pregnancy is the most likely explanation. I'm taking it as a positive thing - at least it means I'm ovulating and our timing was right.

Thanks for the info on OPKs and ovulating by the way. I'm not temping at the moment but might start.

Made the mistake of showing DP my Google TTC calendar for this month. The "HAVE SEX!!" all-day events every two days have rather freaked him out. Might have to step away from the calendar for a while...

grizzer hope all is well and you are getting yourself checked out. sending you lots of positive vibes xxx

grizzer Of course you are worried! Now that you are in the second trimester, you should have no problem getting an appointment at your hospital's pregnancy unit (guess you're not EPU anymore), give them a call! A&E can't do much for you, they'd probably send you there anyway.

Hand-hold offered from me, please let us know how you are getting onxxx

Thank you all. I have been at A&E for 4 hrs but am still none the wiser! They are ringing epu now to see if they want to scan me today or book me in for another day. So frustrating to come away still not knowing but they would only see me today if I was still bleeding & it seems to have stopped for now. Hopefully I'll know more soon.

grizzer How rubbish! You really need to be seen by the MAU now, not EPU! But I guess it'll be a question where they can fit you in... But I would have thought that if you had such a big bleed, then they'd see you as soon as possible. Are you still bleeding?

Bleeding has stopped. They booked me in for Friday but wheeled an old machine in to scan me there along with the words 'this machine's a bit rubbish so if I can't see anything, don't worry.' Um ok then! Anyway, saw baby waving about & heart was merrily beating. Could have done that in half an hour rather than keeping me hanging but all ok. I think I just have to accept I might bleed throughout. That's my 3rd one so far. Never soaked the bed like that though. Scary.
Thank you for all your support & advice x

Oh phew glad all ok Grizzer thank god. Must've been so scary. Why does the bleeding happen?

No idea really Emerald but I seem to have them every month & although they are not exactly the time I would have had AF they are close enough to blame that. I've never had it in other pregnancies though so very weird. Next thing to wait for is Down's test result. Should be here in the next few days......

Grizzer, please put yourself on bed rest. It may very well help to make sure nothing happens to your baby. if there is bleeding like this placenta may have a detached corner or sth which they would see with proper equipment, so you might need to put your feet up for now. I would definitely do this for time being. I hope docs told you to do so anyway.

On temping, I am not doing it myself, for the reason that I know I ovulate often enough to occasionally fall pg. If I doubted wether I did I would temp for sure. there is no other way of knowing, afraid.