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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

We might be over 40 but we are young at heart, taking our supplements, shagging on time and waiting for the precious BFP!Over 40's TTC, join us here...

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Gumblossom · 14/03/2015 23:51

Starting the new thread, Cloudjumper.

Anyone over 40, trying to conceive, whether it is your first or 6th (or more), we're facing the obstacles together.

I've been at it for 6 years now, but there are plenty of good news stories from these threads over the years.

Come and join us with your worries, woes,successes and milestones, we are here to support one another in our quest. Grin

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Piggywiggywoo · 11/07/2015 08:45

Hello totalnamechanger :)

cloudjumper · 11/07/2015 09:00

Piggy - yes, fibroids can impact on TV, depending on their position and their size. I have a very large one, which they looked at very closely earlier this year, but it turned out to be ok. But definitely worth following up weith, so do pester your GP about it!

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cloudjumper · 11/07/2015 09:12

Welcome namechanger! Glad you have found us, this is a great thread.
Sorry to hear about your chemical, it's a blow for sure - getting all excited, only to lose it all again shortly after. Look after yourself - I reckon that your tiredness could well be due to all the emotional roller coaster, rather than physical... I have always felt like a truck had run me over after my miscarriages, and not only because of what my body was going through.
I had contemplated about doing acupuncture for ttc at some point, but I didn't do it in the end. Like yours, the acupuncturist wanted me to stop ttc and focus on the treatments, as well as doing the Chinese herbs, but I didn't feel that that's what I wanted to do. She also seemed overly focused on 'fixing' my cycles, whereas I wanted to focus on why I kept having miscarriages... But I have heard very good experiences from others about acupuncture for ttc. I used it years ago for my migraines, which then completely stopped. If you feel happy to take a break and focus on the treatments, go for it. If not, maybe she can do a treatment course that will allow you to continue ttc (sorry for not being more helpful!).

Grizzer · 11/07/2015 17:11

Welcome Emerald & Total. Sorry for your losses. No advice on supplements but I also lost 3 before this pregnancy Emerald & am now 13 weeks. (Not entirely relaxed about this one yet though!) so there is definitely hope that the right sperm gets the right egg at some point. I'm a firm believer that morning sex has been the key to success for me, certainly to fall pg anyway, even if it has nothing to do with the egg.
I've been seeing an acupuncturist for a couple of years Total. She works a lot with pg ladies but doesn't really advertise as a fertility specialist. I've never been advised to take a break from TTC. I wouldn't be able to do it! I also had a couple of appointments with an alternative dr, who is medically trained, but also specialises in herbs & acupuncture. No such advise from him either.
How are you Cloud? When is your next appointment? Mine is on the 21st & I can't wait. Had more blood the other night. Not much but when I stood up it ran down my leg which is terrifying! Had some brown when I wipe every day since. I'd really like another scan to reassure me.
How was the wine & pâté Jass? A treat indeed.

Emerald72 · 11/07/2015 17:22

Thanks Grizzer! Oh wow really, your story gives me hope then. It really is a lottery isn't it. Congratulations to you and good luck, must be very scary seeing the blood running down, I'm sure all will be ok. You can bleed when pg, I know a few it's happened too.
Welcome total too!
I've been having acupuncture once a month, can't afford to go much more than than at £40 a time! But really think it helps.

cloudjumper · 11/07/2015 19:44

Oh, hello emerald Glad you've found us here, lots of advice and support to be had.

grizzer Yes, bleeding is normal in early pregnancy, but it's unnerving nonetheless! Hope it will all settle down soon xx

I'm doing ok. Going through anxious phases on and off - I'm currently deep in to the danger zone (sounding like the Kenny Loggins Top Gun song here Grin), and starting to wonder if I should get a private scan for reassurance. My next appointment is the 16-week midwife one on the 23rd, but nothing happens there apart from blood pressure and urine checks. However, last time, the MW could not find the heart beat at this very appointment - because there wasn't any anymore, so that's why I am anxious... Wish they would give you more regular scans at this stage, especially with my age and a history of recurring mc! But since the dating scan was fine, I'm back into the normal system...
The good thing is that I'm feeling less nauseous and more energetic, slowly taking up exercise again now, too. Having said that, I slept all afternoon today because I was shattered! Ho-hum.

totalnamechanger · 11/07/2015 20:34

Hi thanks Piggy, Cloud, Grizzer and Emerald for the warm welcome. It's good to be able to talk here as my friends have either completed their families; are younger than me (and most of my NCT friends are on their seconds now with our DC having turned 2) or have no children through not being able to find the right partner so no one is in exactly the same position as me at the moment. What I'm finding so reassuring about this thread is that even though everyone has different circumstances, everyone here understands that trying to conceive is not always exciting and easy but nor do we want to see it as unachievable because we've reached a particular notorious birthday!

Piggy I have no scientific knowledge of fibroids but two good friends of mine had them with their full- term pregnancies of their now 2 year old children. One (school friend so 40 like me) has gone on to have another baby. She was affected by her fibroids in her first trimester and had to take a little time off work but I think the rest of the pregnancy was ok. She had an elective cs. The other (44 now) suffered in her first and third trimester. I think it's put her off trying for another but her daughter is fabulous and healthy.

Thanks Cloud and Grizzer, congratulations on your pregnancies and I'm really glad you are staying on the board for now. Cloud- that is helpful- I'm wondering if a little of this is emotional fatigue because I was maybe too fine when the cp happened? I know that it is very untraumatic in comparison to later mc but I don't know if the pregnancy symptoms and the thoughts you have on those days you know you are pregnant embed themselves in some way so that you do have to undo some of those very early plans/ assumptions. However I do think my hormones are also very strange at the moment and I'm in a sort of limbo where I feel pre-menstural but haven't even ovulated. (Ovia is bloody driving me mad I unfortunately started using it the month of the cp so it thinks I have a 16 day LP and is telling me I've now ovulated and I'm tired because of so much dtd!) I hope the hurdle of the next few weeks will be passed very quickly and uneventfully. I love the fact that our age our music references are shared!

Grizzer too thanks for thinking of this when I know you also have had a very hard time of it. All the spotting/ bleeding must be terrifying and stop you from really enjoying the pregnancy which is sad. Hopefully you'll get to a stage soon where you can be more meh about it. I'd love to have early morning sex (were I allowed...?!?) but with my early rising DS that is mostly out of the question!

Emerald I do think the acupuncture has a big impact on me - I could feel some really weird sensations in my ovary area etc, even when there were no needles in those places. I've also had a lot of ovulation type pain since - but no ovulation- so something is happening. I conceived DS a month after having 2 acupuncture sessions with a different practitioner where equally or even more strange and wonderful things happened so I suppose I wasn't expecting to be told to actively prevent this time. Fingers crossed for you over the next month or so!

I can't really see myself stopping totally for the next few months- I might try and find someone else to have interim treatments with. I obviously don't want to pay for someone's professional help and ignore them but such a break feels too long at this stage. Having said that I'm totally drained and not feeling particularly up for it. Unlike during my unreliable opks last week!!

Emerald72 · 11/07/2015 21:29

Thank you total and yes it does seem strange they telling you to not Ttc. I think you should do what you feel is right, only you know best. Acupuncture is definitely a good thing, I had it before when conceived DS.
Hello cloud yes I found you! Thank you. Sorry to hear you're anxious, that's totally natural given what you say happened before. Don't worry I'm sure it's fine and feeling very tired is s good sign!

This is maybe tmi but today I've started having slight cramp in area where last pg implanted and brown blood, 2.5 wks after ERPC. Could this be my af coming back? Would it be that soon? Have no idea where I'm at now for my cycle.

Flottila · 11/07/2015 21:35

Welcome newbies. Total, I would never give up ttc - not on any advice. Who knows whether next month's egg is THE one? Good luck.

To whomever asked about supps: I had been taking coenzyme q10, maca root and Brazil nuts for three months before this pregnancy. I am convinced it was one of those that did the trick, but of course there is no way of knowing. For 14 months I tried without those three supplements and never got pregnant. Mind you, I think sex every other day was also the perfect strategy this time...but only 4 times!

Grizzer, how unbelievably scary that sounds. Bless you, I hope all is well. Cloud, absolutely get that scan.

I had my third scan on Wednesday at 10+4 and all is well, praise God. The fatigue and nausea today is just brutal.

Hope Chewy is okay. Annie, please talk to your friends about your pain. They love you and will have all kinds of comforting tales up their sleeves. Keep going, lovely Thanks

Waves to Joey and Fatty and Fireflies and Gerald and Ozmund and Gum & Notsoold & the others. I am sorry not to add more support or comfort but I am just so ill today. Thinking of you all Thanks

Flottila · 11/07/2015 21:38

Emerald, I ovulated 21 days after my erpc and af arrived nine days later. It took 3 months to get back to my usual lp length of 13 days.

joey38 · 11/07/2015 21:46

Hi all. Welcome to the newbies and thanks for the waves from the oldies!! This is such a lovely thread. This is a brief one as we're on hols. Af arrived 2 days early on our journey down to France. Disappointment once again but at least it was out of the way early for the holiday.

I've loads of questions I want to ask of you all, but at the moment I'm just hanging out enjoying the company of dh and ds, so I just wanted to mark my place and let you know that I'm thinking of you all - crossing fingers for those currently up-duffed and also for those of us still trying to get there!!

Emerald72 · 12/07/2015 00:36

Flottila thank you it was me asking about sups. I've heard of the Q10 but what does it do and what's Macca root? I've ordered some honey that has royal jelly, bee pollen and bee propolis in it as recommended by a friend. Anyone heard of that?

Being a newbie here, is there a list anywhere of people's stats so I can get familiar with who's where and what stage etc?

ozmund · 12/07/2015 12:07

Hello Emerald and Total. I am 40 been ttc#1 for 7 months, 1mc at 8 weeks with 3 a few weeks ago.

Cloud I have fingers crossed for your 16 week scan.
Flotillas sorry you are feeling so tired & pukey at the moment. Out of interest what doses of Coq10 and maca did you take? Ive been taking 200mg ubiquinol form Coq10 and 500mg H&B maca.

jassS · 12/07/2015 14:32

Emerald, falling often and having mc is a symptom of too receptive uterus, it tries to implant everything. Most ppl have chem or nothing if a bad egg gets fertilised, but some women try to implant everything.
of course have the tests done, if something shows up, you can treat, but most often it does not. And unexplained mcs can just stop and you can just suddenly go to term.

Cloud, I so hope all will be Ok at your scan. Has to be! rooting for Grizzer, too, here.

Myself, Af has been and gone, time to come off that wine, french cheese etc. and get ready to ttc. I do not like ttc, I have to say. i much prefer the 2ww:-)

Shira75 · 12/07/2015 16:59

Hi ladies, I'm new here, hope you are all feeling ok today.

I'm 40 and have just started TTC my first baby, my fiance is 32 (I hear a toy boy can increase the odds for us older gals!) and he also has no children. I came off the pill two weeks ago so we are right at the start of it all.
I can remember the dramas and stresses of TTC from being with my previous partner, because my ex and I were TTC for just over a year (when I was 32). We were unsuccessful - just as well, because he wasn't a very nice guy in the end (and that's an understatement). We had fertility tests back then and mine came out fine but his showed several issues.

So I have no idea what to expect now, 8 years on, I guess my age will make it hard for us. At least I have a wonderful man this time, who will be an amazing daddy!
Looking forward to chats with you all.

Emerald72 · 12/07/2015 17:18

Hi Ozmund, sorry for you loss, did you mean you lost 3 babies at 8wks? How did you arrive at the amount of sups you are taking, did anyone advise you of that amount?

JassS oh really? That's the first I've heard of that but does sound like it makes sense as to why my body is possibly trying to hang onto bad fertilised eggs. What exactly is a chemical pg? I've heard of it but not really sure what it is.

Welcome Shira! I've not been on here long but a lovely friendly bunch of women and good support. Sounds like it was a lucky escape for you with your ex, thank God no kids then. I met my partner when I was 38 and conceived our DS at age 40 after 7mths of trying, so it can happen and good you know there's nothing wrong with your tests at least.

Emerald72 · 12/07/2015 17:20

Flotilla thank you, yes I def think it's af arrived, just was surprised it is so soon after op.

jassS · 12/07/2015 17:22

i concieved my son at 39 with 6 weeks of trying only....
Emerald, chemical pg is one which ends before anything can be visualised on ultrasound- usually a beta hcg level which never passes 1000.

FattyFishwife · 12/07/2015 21:54

welcome to all of the new ladies

much love to everyone.....and of cousre loads of lucky vibes, for those trying and those who have their BFP's who just need some reassurance that all is well or luck to make it stick Star

ive had a massively busy weekend (guess who got roped in to man the tombola at the school fair...it was manic!!! Its surprising that normal level headed people go 'tombola blind' and will pay a fortune trying to win any old tat LOL

anyways, being busy for both days, has brought me 2 days further into my TWW....6 days left now!

Emerald72 · 12/07/2015 22:15

Thanks Jass, wow that's quick that you conceived your son.

Artio · 13/07/2015 12:52

Hi, I’d like to join the thread please. :)

I’m 40, with a DS1 who is 4. We were TTC again for about a year and I had two early MCs. Then I did get pregnant and had DS2 in December but he was born with a serious congenital heart condition. He had several major ops and seemed to be doing well but then died very suddenly and unexpectedly when he was 5 months old.

We’re now TTC again, and both DP (who is 45) and I are probably rather too emotionally invested in it, and still devastated of course from our son’s death. It feels very soon to be trying, but we feel at our age we have to start now and would regret it if we waited. I’ve become slightly obsessed with TTC though, which I know is not good!

I’m 9 DPO on cycle 2 of TTC. Had some spotting today which the hopeful part of me is saying could be implantation bleeding, but the realistic part of me suspects is the start of AF, due on Friday, so looks like this month is a no-go.

Emerald72 · 13/07/2015 16:14

Welcome Artio and I'm so sorry to hear of your losses and particularly the death of your son. It must have been horrendous I just cannot imagine what you've both been through, my heart goes out to you. You are a very brave lady Ttc again and I completely understand the timing with your age, as I have been the same. Of course you'll never forget or probably get over losing your son, but I can understand wanting to try again. I think it's easy to get obsessed with Ttc! I wish you lots of luck and I'm sure you'll find a lot of support and help on here xx

jassS · 13/07/2015 19:24

Artio, welcome and special good luck to you. So very sorry for the loss of your DS2. Hope you will get that bfp soon!

Flottila · 13/07/2015 20:09

Oh what tragic tales we hear on these threads, but yours has made me weep, Artio. Completely understandable that you would throw yourself into ttc. I wish you a joyful end to your journey. Please don't think that being obsessed will thwart your chances of conception; I was obsessed and am currently 11+2. You are fabulously young (yes! really!) and you are ready. Massive good luck and blessings to you Thanks

Emerald72 · 13/07/2015 21:40

Sorry bit of a me rant coming on... Just suddenly felt very down and cried which took me by surprise as was just thinking I'm doing ok. Had forgotten that little things can trigger you off. Think it was seeing 8mth pregnant friend yesterday at a birthday party then another friend today with a 11wk old who I held. Thought I was fine, but think it's all catching up with me now.
Sorry know we are all in it some worse than others, but just felt abit alone for minute there.

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