Bring along any luck you can find ..This BESHly fred is brought to you by the magic number 3 - come on Hags, we can Foo it!

[Blue2014]

You know the drill by now ...

Rules of Entry - must be over 30, TTC no. 1 for over a year, be suitably evil and Hag like, willing to shout Cunt at the moon on regular occasions, consume extra gin when our fellow hags are unable to, and to get the nipple tassles out for any successful Hag ...

and now we've been trained by the government in our new MI5 roles, we are likely to get a little Ninja on your ass if you babydust round here ...

No admittance without a complete BESHtionnaire - see below.

Yayyy Blue!! Air punches all around!

Hey hags! we don't need those thoughts round here - we may be bitter and evil but we're not without hope, right?

What. A. Fucking. Week. So bloody busy it's not even funny, work is doing my head in. Any of you who know me on FB might have seen a post from me earlier this week about some big shiz at my work (been rumbling on for months but wasn't allowed to say anything). We've gone from 0-100 since it went public, layer on some fucking mahoosive new clients AND that bloody industry talk I still haven't finished preparing and I am basically about ready to explode. Worked all evening tonight, forgot to even pour myself a glass of wine! Right, that's better!

Elections eh? What a palaver, am feeling especially glad our ivf funding is safely approved, no doubt Dickhead Dave will be stripping the nhs to its bare bones before too long.

Oh, and the rspca still haven't called to arrange our home check, so no new rainycat this weekend.

BOO!

fizzy creeping closer, nearly there. Are you an early tester or do you have willpower/prefer to live in hope?

Erica is the conference over? At least there was good food .

Blue fuck her and her sodding maternity leave, you don't need that shit in your life.

Erica/blue that's where DCW still is, but strangely enough when he goes that way (I picked up the iPad the other day and he'd been reading about adoption) I rebel and am convinced it will work one day. Although I admit I don't have much hope for before Xmas..

bad ouch, do you have antibiotics?

rain dickhead dave indeed. Education and the NHS are fucked.

It's the weekend!!!!

Happy Saturday, hags. I'm deep in marking hell. Send help! And sandwiches!

I do have antibiotics. They seem to be helping, though I feel pretty shit thanks to said UTI and droid cramps (not here yet, but really threatening now).

rain, work sounds pretty insane. Wine, chocolate and YouTube videos of puppies and kittens is my recommendation. Hopefully rainycat will be joining you soon.

erica and blue, we'll ALL be diffed by Christmas. You too, barking. Have you guys made any decisions about your next move, or are you taking a step back for a bit? Sorry if you've already said - I lost contact with the thread for a bit. Ignore me, if you don't want to talk about it.

fizz, keeping everything crossed here, fingers, toes, and indeed legs (thanks, UTI).

bad I'm waiting for a biopsy to test for nk cells. If sods law kicks in, the window of opportunity (7-9 days after Ov) will be when we're away for 5 days. And my window of opportunity is only 1 day, as by 8 days past ov I'll be bleeding and there will be no womb lining to test.... So it could be that we avoid ttc for nothing this cycle, and have to do the biopsy next month .

And then we look at the frozen embies and work out whether we do a medicated or natural cycle.

Bloody sod's law, barking. Hopefully you'll catch a break. Will this biopsy address the short luteal phase, as well as test for nk cells?

I'm so tired and pissed off. All of my essays so far have been Cs. Seriously, sometimes I wonder what they are hearing when I am talking, because some of the stuff they are coming out with is worrying.

It might indirectly, bad as they also look at progesterone levels. I've obviously had the blood test before, but this is looking specifically at what is in the womb lining. I'm actually as interested to know what they can say about that as the nk cells.

Fingers crossed you get some answers, barking.

This may give you all a laugh: I just read an essay where the student frequently disapproves of the way in which a particular figure is placed on a "pedal stool" in critical commentary.

Thanks Bad, that's brilliant. One of my friends is a uni lecturer and the stuff she reads in essays cracks me up all the time

Ha ha, pedal stool is a good one. Reminds me of some of the threads in Classics, always good for a laugh. In fact, I read some bonkers research about laughing after embryo transfer so read my way through some of them Desperate, moi?

It's been so long since I took a test I don't really have a pattern! Definitely will be holding out til Thursday; I have a big work thing on Weds and definitely don't want the result before that. I have made the mistake of telling family about the FET, and now they all want to wrap me in cotton wool. Which would be lovely except my sister is going in for a mastectomy next week, and I want to be there to help and support. It's a short flight away and they have effectively banned me from going! I am thinking of going anyway. Does anyone know any reason not to fly in early pregnancy (if please god we get that far)?

Fizzy I wouldn't want to fly in early pregnancy, but that is not based on logic and is specific to me because
a)I flew back from America while pg and then mc'd (probably unrelated and a long haul flight anyway) and
b) I've got thrombophilia so there's an increased risk of blood clots (probably wouldn't be an issue as I'd be on heparin anyway).
However, if there was a family thing I wanted to be at I'd jump on the plane as there's no medical reason why it would be a problem.

Fizz Google Emily Oster and flying for some info... It's a very personal choice though so I would do whatever feels best.

All the best for your sister!

Fizz, what a bloody unfair decision that is. She will know you love her, whatever you choose

You know what I hate about being childless? What the friggin hell are we supposed to do with all our spare time? We both really thought we would be parents by now, this is ridiculous but we have too much time and it's making us unhappy

I'm sorry you are feeling down, blue. It's shit all round.

fizz, I don't have any advice for you, except that your sister will understand if you can't make it. If - WHEN - you get your good news this week, maybe have a chat with your clinic and make a decision then?

Hags, I feel wretched. This UTI has knocked me for six. I've been in bed most of the day and I have so much work to do. I could cry. Who am I kidding, I have cried, for much of the day. Himself is playing a golf comp, so I have nobody to take pity on me and bring me drinks and snacks

Poor Badb! UTIs are the absolute pits, are you on antibiotics? I have no tips but lots of snook of sympathy for you! And do take all the painkillers, this is no time to be a hero. Get well soon!

Blue I know what you mean. For me the worst is feeling like the 'weirdo' that has no kids and the sense of failure when everyone around me has one after another and I have nothing to show for all my dramas. It's gone on for so long now, I can't imagine what worries me or got me upset 3 years ago... But we'll get there, hag!! Have the halibut of hope!!

blue that is one problem I have never had, there is never enough time!!! This week I have been swimming twice, running three times and on my road bike twice. We have loads of stuff queued up to watch on the TV as we're never both in to watch it. Yesterday we had a day together so after DCW had been for a run we went to the running shop and then the bike shop before actually having some time in the house to clear some stuff out, then DCW chopped wood for the wood burner while I changed the brake pads on my bike.
It's when the ivf starts again and I can't do any of my usual activities that I'll struggle. Then it will be back to book club and knitting in the pub! And I think I might join a choir.
Is there nothing you fancy doing? Salsa dancing? An evening course in anything? Craft? Music? I am very much a person of routine. I like to keep busy and I like everything booked in so I know what I'm doing. This obsessive planning is not helped by baby not appearing almost three years ago when anticipated.....

bad hope you're feeling better soon, I've only had two utis but each time it was horrendous

Bad, I do not envy the uti!

Barking - I knew you would be the opposite of me I find sporty types are always super busy but I've always hated that stuff. I've always needed very little to keep me happy, a sofa and a book and im done but it's not enough anymore., I had planned to be exhausted and begging for a moments peace from baby time by now! Nor for Mr B either, neither of us have been hobby people, we've always been work then either seeing friends or watching films on the sofa. But, as Erica says we've become the weird ones without kids, everyone else has kids and have left behind the life we used to have and now we don't know what to do with ourselves (more me really, he's taken to going to the pub - unhelpful for me really) I would try and build a life but as you know I'm due to move areas so it seems pointless right now.

Erica - I've lost my hope again! Have you got it?

So, hags, I'm two days late. I think anyway. I haven't been tracking my temperature this month, so I actually might not be - my cycles can fluctuate a bit. Also the UTI has been making me feel like shit, and the antibiotics might be having an effect too. I don't poas, as a rule, so I don't have any in the house. But I should go and buy one, right? But I've missed my first morning urine now.

Jesus Christ.

Ah bad, it's actually horrible that our poas can't just be nice experiences hey?

Go buy one, you'll need one for anyway for future times so might as well have it in. Then do tomorrow's first urine

Badb Best of luck, hag!!

bad here is the haddock of health for the UTI and the cod of calm for the menkul!

I know what you mean about the free time! Until I changed jobs last year, I would spend all mine just exhausted and/or googling fertility ishoos. Now I have more time and little to fill it with! Luckily we have a hard core of child free friends / ones with much older kids, who all help keep me sane. Pub quizzes, dinner parties, country walks to a pub etc - doesn't have to be a hobby as such.

Thanks for your words of wisdom re flying. I will see what the result is and make a plan from there.

I will not test before Thursday.
I will not test before Thursday.
I will not test before Thursday.

No testing before Thurs Fizz!

Hide those piss sticks or pass one to Bad

Keeping everything crossed this is it bad. I found the Superdrug tests the best.

I think droid is trying to make an appearance here, I've been spotting for 3 days and feeling grouchy. If it does show up in the next day or so it'll be my shortest cycle in, like, forever

Hags, bfp. Faint line, but a line. I'm in work, in a state of shock. And terror-struck. Fucking hell.