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Bring along any luck you can find ..This BESHly fred is brought to you by the magic number 3 - come on Hags, we can Foo it!

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Blue2014 · 06/03/2015 12:41

You know the drill by now ...

Rules of Entry - must be over 30, TTC no. 1 for over a year, be suitably evil and Hag like, willing to shout Cunt at the moon on regular occasions, consume extra gin when our fellow hags are unable to, and to get the nipple tassles out for any successful Hag ...

and now we've been trained by the government in our new MI5 roles, we are likely to get a little Ninja on your ass if you babydust round here ...

No admittance without a complete BESHtionnaire - see below.

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Blue2014 · 02/04/2015 21:22

Ah For fucks sake - I typed out a really long response on laptop and the laptop insists I am not blue and can't come in Shock

So now on the phone to say in summary - happy bank holiday hags no menkul dwarves here, nothing to see move along

Prosecco, gin (and giant Easter eggs) all sound good - im on soda water ... I do not like this preparing the body for possible IVF stuff!

Much love arm punching to all Hags - the tough times are horrid. I wish I could send the mullet of magic to take it all away for you all Thanks

Bad I love that you did FSOG with toast on the sofa - it sounds almost like a protest Wine

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Tinkfromlovejoy · 02/04/2015 22:52
  1. Do you like gin? (This is compulsory, you must say 'Yes')
    I prefer red wine, white wine, rose wine, vodka, prosecco, amaretto and sherry, but yes, I like gin safe to say

  2. Men - are you a gold digger or a cradle snatching cougar?
    Definitely a gold digger? I'm 10 years younger and he's definitely punching if you believe that you'll believe anything

  3. Baybee-making - to put a baybee in your tumtum, which hole do you use:
    a) weewee
    b) poopoo
    c) foofoo
    d) none, you just pray to the baby Jebus.
    It's without doubt none of the above. I've tried all of them, for the last 6 years, none work. There is either a flaw in jesus' plan, or I am one of gods little jokes.

  4. Testing - when someone wonders if they should test for updiff (pg), do you:
    a) bellow 'POAS!' at them non-stop and punch them repeatedly in the kidneys till they wet themselves anyway.
    b) Sprinkle them with babydust and send them hugs and kisses on lickle baby angel wings.
    I ignore all persons who believe to be pg. They are obviously lying to themselves.

  5. Is R2D2:
    a) an adorable robot from Star Wars.
    b) the source of all evil.
    I can't pretend to care.

  6. Number of pets?
    3! Two cats and one dog. Currently debating the merits of keeping silkie chickens and/or getting back into horses.

  7. Inappropriate (read: weird) crush of shame?
    Erm, if I said all of the England Rugby Team circa the World Cup win could i have them all at once ? Hello Steve Borthwick!

  8. Lesbian crush?
    Eva Green; perfect tits.

  9. How much money have you spent on sticks you then urinate on?
    a) Oh nothing, I'll probably catch first time and then get the doctor to confirm it.
    b) Over 100 quid
    c) I opened an account on ebay solely for the purpose of purchasing sticks
    d) I have an extra expensive lick on a stick gadget which also appears to do arse all
    B, definitely B.

  10. Which of these sentences is appalling:
    a) Off to see the consultant today!!! So excited!!!!!
    b) Gud luck hun sprinkling babydust for ya lol xxx
    c) both of the above
    Neither.

  11. How barren are you?
    a) childless and TTC for at least one year
    b) one child and TTC #2 for at least two years
    c) I've been trying for 2 cycles and the wait is driving me mad!
    If c, this aint the fred for you ...
    Childless and ttc for 6 years, yep 6!

TheRainDrops · 02/04/2015 23:22

oooh! fresh meat! 6 years!! you are definitely nails, without even knowing the full story. Eva Green is a good choice, and I don't know what a silkie chicken is but it sounds interesting!! I'd say yer in, although you might want to reconsider the appallingness of baby dusting Huns Wink
You're also in because your sn made me laugh. Tinker from Lovejoy made me tread in dog poo when I was about 13 Grin

Tinkfromlovejoy · 02/04/2015 23:25

Oh fuck, I read appealing Blush I am nails, just dim!

TheRainDrops · 02/04/2015 23:31

Grin you'll fit right in

Tinkfromlovejoy · 02/04/2015 23:34

I should perhaps now apologise for the dog do, and admit I've never actually tried it up the pee pee! Not sure it would fit? Should probably have read more carefully!

Blue2014 · 02/04/2015 23:35

Urrgggh, in the midst of an argument - he says he doesn't want donor sperm or even to adopt! I am freaking out massively right now - im beginning to think this might not ever happen for us

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Tinkfromlovejoy · 02/04/2015 23:50

Tentatively waves at blue - sorry you're stuck in a row, I am too if it helps to share. Although my oh has gone back to the pub!
I find in the heat of the moment shit gets said that isn't often meant. I very much hope that's the case with you and your oh. Usually for us, in the cold light of day, he doesn't feel half as bad about it as he vents after a few beers. Maybe try a swift jab to the balls and tell him he has no choice if it comes to it Wink Or perhaps try and disregard what is said in the heat of the moment? Flowers

Tinkfromlovejoy · 03/04/2015 00:25

Maybe I said the wrong thing. Apologies if so. Ttc rows are the absolute worst I know. It feels all is lost. In my experience, then another cycle starts, or another so called expert throws you another lifeline and things kick back into gear. Tenacity is key for me. Also a disregard for all those that say you can't. I try and focus on the end goal....

barkingtreefrog · 03/04/2015 06:58

Ooooo, new blood Grin . Welcome tink, I reckon you're in on the basis of your later correction. I know you said you're the young one in your relationship but, have you thought about some reading glasses, maybe? Wink
Please, tell us your story Grin .
I am a mere spring chicken compared to you in the TTC department, ttc getting on for 3.5 years, one clomid bfp, one iui bfp (both ended in mc, tests then showed factor v Leiden thrombophilia which the consultant thought unlikely to have caused my two early mcs - 6/7 weeks - but could cause later mc so if I get another bfp I'll be on heparin injections) one failed iui and currently waiting to see if ivf has worked....

fab I booked a hotel for a family (in law) wedding in June. FiL then emails DCW saying 'I hear you've already booked a hotel' and basically saying it would be nice if we all stayed together. DCW went into a panic because we hadn't consulted his family first about where they wanted to stay before we selfishly booked somewhere for ourselves and sent a grovelling apology email, which got my back right up because I couldn't see want he was apologising for, and anyway his brother never returns his phone calls and he's tried getting his dad on Skype a number of times recently but he's never got back to him. The wedding is in two months, I wanted to get somewhere booked so I booked it. His dad had asked where we had booked but DCW had forgotten, and had also forgotten he did actually have that information as his step brother (the groom) had already asked and he'd replied on fb when I told him, so he could have looked there. As he'd copied me in and said I knew where we'd booked I replied all and explained where we were staying and that after considering affordability, location and availability of late check in, that was actually the only option for us!! (thinking this explained nicely, not that we needed to, why we'd gone ahead and booked without talking to anyone else). I then get a text from DCW saying the tone of my email was aggressive, which really upset me. Then I got home after two days of inconsiderate 8 month bump woman, progressively less sleep all week and a lunch with four people who compared stories about their precious children and completely excluded me from the conversation. And we argued Sad . And we never argue (maybe once or twice a year), so that really upset me.
The only good thing was that in the middle of it all I got a call from the acupuncturist saying there was an available appointment at 6.30 (I hadn't managed to get one this week so I'd gone on the cancellation list). I turned up still in tears and she had to listen to it all Blush . For the first time ever my pulse was raised Angry . But she sorted me out and I came back a lot calmer Smile . All sorted now, just family politics is too much to deal with right now. I don't even believe his dad was pissed off, but DCW is always so eager to please even though he gets nothing in return. Anyway, there's a whole other story in that one! I'll stop at one essay for this morning Blush .

Rain excellent to see RAF getting involved with the chasing up, hope he doesn't need to as the letter arrives by then.

Erica quit worrying that you may worry in the future! That way madness lies! (And of course telling someone not to worry as if they can just say 'ok' is a perfectly sane suggestion Hmm ). Maybe some of that mindfulness woo, the 'living in today, not thinking about the past, or being concerned about the future' is the way forward. I love giving out stupid advice I wouldn't be able to follow myself. Ignore me. Forget I said anything and just take a quick [hug] instead, then pretend that didn't happen Grin .

blue this is all new news still, and Mr Blue will still likely be in denial about the ability of his manhood. Give him time. I know another couple who are now going through the adoption process even though he was adamant at first it wasn't going to happen. The problem wasn't with him, but he still needed time to get his head around the idea. Surely with ICSI there's no reason why you and MrB couldn't get diffed anyway? Maybe it's too early to be trying to convince him of plan B before you've put plan A into action. And if he changes his diet, cuts out alcohol and takes the vitamins it might improve enough anyway - and perhaps knowing you otherwise want donor sperm or adoption will give him the motivation to do his part to improve the chances?

tink I hope your row is resolved now.

Apparently everyone in the hotel woke up in a hot sweat because the rooms were so hot so I can write that one off as a possible pg symptom Sad .
Although I am still waking up at stupid o'clock (5.45 this morning) even though I'm knackered. Does that count as one?
Piss sticks arrived. I am going to leave them at home. I am.

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Blue2014 · 03/04/2015 10:06

Sorry, I just flew on last night, dumped my shit and fled. Mucho sorry Hags, and hi tink Grin I'm very very exciting to have someone new here Thanks

Haven't read any posts yet, will do so when the bloody migraine wears off and shall be back asap Thanks

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FizzyFeet · 03/04/2015 10:09

Posting in haste from crowded train to say welcome tink .

I'm 4.5 years into my journeeee (2x ectopics and 1 mmc, no Fallopian tubes so ivf only way forward. Currently downregging for FET from embies created in November 2013!)

barking family drama is the worst. Keep away from those sticks!

erica, blue, bad, rain - fiat bumps for you. And a sneaky toe squeeze for chezza.

I had forgotten how horrid the downreg droid is. Gah! Night sweats here too (sorry barking). I just want this cycle over with!

Blue2014 · 03/04/2015 11:56

Thanks for the support Hags, see im really hopeful for icsi but he was really down last night (he got snappy first hence the argument but then just sad and hopeless) I know it's natural for him to feel that way but I'm a practical problem solver and apparently that wasn't helping last night. I know I'm early in this journey too. Finger crossed completely in denial let's pretend none of it is real for the bank holiday weekend

I'm really glad you hear tink, sorry to here you were in the midst of something too. Mr Tink sounds a lot like Mr Blue!

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Blue2014 · 03/04/2015 12:01

Ah bloody phone posted mid way ...

Barking - Mr B is also the same as DCW, trying to unrealistically please others and telling me I'm too aggressive when I genuinely think I'm just not a walkover people pleaser. You are ace, sod what his family say or think. Are you off to the woods today?

Fizz, hope the train journey isn't too bad. A bank holiday train journey whilst down regging - you is certainly a nails hag.

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TheRainDrops · 03/04/2015 12:31

blue like everyone else has said, this is all new, big stuff to deal with. I actually think it's (potentially!) good that Mr Blue is airing his immediate fears/reactions now, rather than not saying anything and then having a meltdown later. As these are all massive 'what ifs' for you guys now (cos IVF/ICSI is totally going to work for you) you have plenty of time to talk it all out and hopefully it won't even be an issue later. Not that you'll need a back up plan

barking some people just can't handle those of us that are a bit more matter of fact about life, sure you could have tiptoed round DCWs family and kept the peace and ended up in a shit/expensive hotel but doesn't sound like you said or did anything unreasonable to me! I get so annoyed by people who pussyfoot around and/or don't say what their expectations are but rather expect you to magically understand by osmosis or something. Grr! Hope you have a fab weekend away - we'll be sending Sneaky the dwarf round to make sure you left the piss sticks at home!

tink yes please do tell us your storeeeee. I am rain - 33, ttc for 3 years, unexplained infertility. 1 miraculous au natural bfp in oct 2013 (3 months after hycosy) but ended in mmc in November 13. Not a sniff since, currently awaiting our first appointment for ivf.

fizz I hope you have a seat! What's the current timeline for your FET? Soz, memory like a goldfish.

Hags, I need to tell you about something very, very important. It's sort of life changing. I hope you're ready for this. MEXICAN SCRAMBLED EGGS. oh sweet baby jeebus, they are so GOOD. I heartily recommend you all go and eat some now, and don't forget the avocado and coriander. You don't need bread/tortilla (although it is delicious with) so fine for all you carb avoiders!

Back later, got to go and buy some paint for the bathroom.

badb · 03/04/2015 15:50

Afternoon, hags. It's FRIDAY. Awesomeness all round.

Welcome, tink - do indeed tell us your tale of woe. (Badb, 36, ttc 1 year and three months, unexplained infertility).

blue, just chiming in with what everybody else has been saying - it may well be just a knee-jerk reaction. It's a big step, and he's probably just stamping the foot a bit.

erica, how are you doing?

cherry, hope you are having some fun this weekend, though I know it must be tough.

barking, that sounds very much like my own family. They are very demanding and quick to take offence. I grew up (the eldest) being the people pleaser, so I'm afraid I'm one of those pussyfooters, always trying to please people and preempt their offence-taking. It's not pleasant, either way.

fizz, hope the down-regging is going ok.

fab, how are you feeling? When's the next scan?

rain, those eggs sound delicious, even though scrambled eggs wouldn't be my favourite egg method. I love eggs so much. I went for breakfast with a friend this morning and had this amazing Moroccan inspired thing, with chickpeas and aubergines in a tomato sauce, with two poached eggs, on sourdough. Ohmifuckinggod, it was delicious.

Have I missed anyone? Hope not.

I'm working today, even though I'm technically supposed to be off. I also need to clean the house, which is frankly disgusting. Ugh, no inclination though.

barkingtreefrog · 03/04/2015 16:30

Fucking Google maps has just added over half an hour to a 5 journey by sending us back the way we came and there's nowhere to turn round Angry.

Blue enjoy your bank holiday in De Nile (see what I did there? Grin)

Rain what colour paint? I love some of the names for paint colours, so random.

bad cleaners are the way forward. We have an amazing cleaner, I luffs her lots. Well worth £20 a week. Coming home to a clean house beats spending the same money on a night in the pub. She even makes the bed and hangs up the washing!!! Grin

I left DCW to find a campsite while I was doing my driving shift. As a result we're staying in a campsite with no shower, just toilets and a cold water tap. Marvellous. The piss sticks are still at home on the kitchen table, didn't even open the box they arrived in through the post! No early testing happening here! Smile

chez how are you doing hag? Hope the family weekend is going OK. When are you back home?

Tinkfromlovejoy · 03/04/2015 20:59

Thanks for the warm welcome Smile

Tale of Woe Wink:
Diagnosed with pcos about 12/15 years ago. Told by a most sympathetic sonographer that I'd never have kids! Met Dh in 2008 then came off dianette in 2009, spent a few years on and off metformin just "seeing what would happen" (nothing). Got married, rebuilt the house, kept busy for years, genuinely deep down thought it would just happen. Last year we decided to adopt or foster, went as far as attending la open evenings. Then Dh asked if we could just give it one more go.....
Diagnosed with prolactinoma last November, my endocrinologist is not sure if I really have pcos as bloods aren't consistent with that. Although scans prove otherwise. STILL awaiting prolactinoma treatment, my levels are nearly normal now but the endo still wants to treat it for 6 months to rule it out.

Sorry that was so boring! I've deleted half of it believe it or not. Fucking depressing writing it all down like that. It's the timescales that get to me! Although at least no one can say I gave up to easily! Grin

Tinkfromlovejoy · 03/04/2015 21:00

*too easily

Blue2014 · 03/04/2015 22:58

Tink - not boring at all, you are truely a lovely hard as nails Hag

By the way, I few posts ago my hear/here were in the wrong place, this bothers me so I had to point out that I had noticed!

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Blue2014 · 03/04/2015 23:04

Oh and barking, hope the campsite doesn't suck too much. My holiday in de Nile going well very (except for the section on gogglebox from OBEM, uncomfortable watching with a sad Mr B)

Rain, I love your enthusiasm for the eggs and also love that Bad loves them. They are my "if you could only eat one food forever what would it be" choice Smile one day we will all be diffed and will have a PESH questionnaire that only allows you in with a love of eggs rather than gin Grin

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Fabuluce · 04/04/2015 09:49

I love an egg too - and the Ivf mantra is of course Eggs for Eggs! Not sure I could do eggs every day though... Mexican scrambled eggs is very popular with TWH but I can't quite bring myself to try it - in my head avo and eggs don't mix...it's a leap of faith for me... Huevos rancheros definitely and any variation thereof - I've done a nice one with tomatoes, chickpeas, chilli and cinammon and baked eggs in the middle. I've decided that I can have runny eggs at home as I can see they've got the lion standard on them but can't have them eating out as I have no way of checking them. Hey ho.

Welcome Tinks, sounds like you've had quite the journey already. How gutting that it's taken all this time to be diagnosed but it makes total sense that something affecting your pituitary gland would affect your fertility. I hope they sort things out for you. Can I ask how old you are (cheeky)?

My story: me 42, TWH 36, ttc since nov 2010, ivf #1 BFP then mmc, ivf #2 BFN, diagnosed with auto immune ishoos, ivf#3 BFP - now 10 weeks! Next scan on Tuesday. Slowly starting to think this may actually happen...

Barking - not surprised your frustrated, you sound like you've done exactly what any normal person would - book up, be organised, if others want to follow they can but there's no need for you to kowtow.

Fabuluce · 04/04/2015 09:50

Grrrr autocorrect - you're frustrated not your!!!

Fabuluce · 04/04/2015 09:55

Lolling at Bad being the people pleaser as the eldest - my eldest sister was (still is!) Miss Bossyboots!

Sorry for the cluster posting - posting from phone and have the memory of a goldfish at the moment so can't retain everything I want to comment on - please bear with me Smile