Don't let your clits get twitchy and do anything to avoid a boil in the bag fanny. BFP wholesale van rolling in to deliver to all the viroids - no superstition, JUST SHAGGING! (Part 39)

[DulcetMoans]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied and adapted from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others. Also know as 'the witch', 'bitch witch' and 'that one with the red shiny convertible'

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in! PONF = Pee on Nigel Farage. Self explanatory, who wouldn't?

ROC - Receptacle of Choice - what one chooses to use for the task of POAS. Optional decorations include photographs of controversial political leaders.

JIAC = Jizz in a Cup. Preferable to jizz on the carpet or jizz in the eye. This one's for the lucky men in our lives.

Shagging like Something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession. Warning - this may happen to you if you start trying to POAS at 5dpo. PUT. THE. PISSY. STICK. DOWN. IT'S TOO EARLY!

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

SOTM = Shagger of the Month. Awarded with varying regularity to those viroids who go above and beyond EOD shagging in pursuit of that BFP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture. AKA Schroedingering!
TWPU - Two Week Piss Up!

Keeping your gingers = fingers crossed, yet another autocorrect development! Shortened to 'gx'

Doing A Lemon = Testing WAAAAAAAY to early!

The link to Part 38 is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2292480-Jazz-up-your-ROC-Invoke-a-Wankban-Shake-your-Beaver-and-Find-Cupboard-Love-with-the-Just-Shagging-Viroids-Dont-forget-to-Cup-and-Run-its-JS-38?" target="_blank">Here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/2299801-JSing-Grads-turn-21-Weve-got-the-Key-to-the-door-cosy-wombles-and-a-drawer-of-dirty-spoons?" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>

We are the dark side of MN. Welcome.

It is hard. It's all hard. We have so many challenges to come. You won't be on your own though. I am so sorry for your loss.

Thank you Stoat, for managing to support me when you're going through the mill yourself. [hugs]

MC really should be spoken about more, it affects so many women and yet its a bit of a taboo.

You are welcome, it helps me too, I'm one of life's big sisters I think, being there for other people is one of the only good things about this hellish time, my pain is not for nothing. I mentioned on the other thread, I've had so many PMs from people I haven't spoken to in yonks saying they've been there and they understand (I posted a candle on FB). We messaged DHs friends last night, and two of them mentioned they had been there too. I'm astounded.

I think its not talked about because of the same reasons ppl don't talk about ttc. that's what makes places like mn so important. its the same with fertility. sure for some its an embarrassment/failing feeling that stops them talking about it, but I would love to post something on fb to raise awareness of infertility, but I don't because if ppl knew we were ttc it would a) invite the "are you pg yet" idiots to be idiots and b) impact upon my career/business.

honey my bro had a little girl last year and I would've been devastated if they'd chosen "my" name, but likely as it was my nans name. I was astounded when they asked me if i wanted them not to use it. I said I'd prefer they didn't and her name is nothing like it. I was very lucky, but I think it helped that they knee our situation. my point is I understand how you must be feeling.

Yes I agree. I never wanted to out myself as TTC but as my pregnancy has gone the way it has, everyone now knows. At work, that's not ideal but fuck it, I've lost my baby. Work, big whoop. My pregnancy would have been a major inconvenience to my boss. One of the first things she said to me was, 'they will tell you to wait a while. Don't listen to them. If you want to try again, try again'. She has been amazing but I am in a rare position, I've been in my field since I was 21, this is the first place I've been treated so well. They sent flowers today and have been so supportive. We told our friends because if anyone had suggested we give it a go as they do (albeit in a nice way) it would have been a major upset. But do you know what, they have all been SO supportive. It's been hugely comforting. Some of my female friends in particular, part of why I've mentioned it has come with, 'if this ever happens to you, know that I have been there and I will be there for you'. But we are all different. This place is particularly good.

I hate that mc is such a taboo - 9 months on there is still only a handful of people that know about mine, at the time I didn't want to talk about it but now I would be quite happy too. My DH is such a private person that not even his parents know what happened so I feel I can't talk about it because he doesn't want people to know. A few of my close friends know but he doesn't know that they know which makes it hard. Fortunately only my boss at work knows but I'm sure others at work suspect as I had two weeks off last summer with no explanation! it doesn't take a genius to guess.

I'm sorry to those that are going through it now, time does help but there will always be that what if... I should have a 2 month old in my arms now but I don't and I often wonder how life would be different. I hope that when I fall pregnant again I will have the courage to talk about it more. I'd love to do a run or bike ride for miscarraige association to help raise awareness, before it happened to me I had no idea how common it was. to all xx

Just reading back through the last fee posts. Wow, guys your courage is amazing, those of you going through mc now or previously. Stoat, your comment about your friends knowing you've been there and you would be there for them if it happened to them in the future- if I ever end up in that place I hope I could have the same attitude.
Lil- lovely necklace. Having some jewellery to remember your babies is a lovely idea.
Love to all you viroids

I really feel for you honey, that's hard :(. I don't know if I'd say something about the name, did they know you wanted to use it?

I talked openly about my mc at work and with friends and had many people commending me for it, as they agreed people should feel able to talk about it. Lots of people told me their own experiences. A few were not so understanding (usually those with children!) and I had a few annoying or insensitive comments. I still mention my first pg when I get asked about this one.

I am finding this pg long - I think it is because it got pg straight after mc so I've actually been pg (with about a 2 week break) since August. So I'm 19 weeks but feel much further along.

If you feel like talking about mc I do think it's a good thing as the more people open up then the more people will feel it's ok to talk about it.

Sending all you viroids some unicorns to rub for good luck! This has been a shit patch but it will get better.

Good luck for today stoat ill be thinking of you.

No La, they didn't. Not seen them in ten months and haven't discussed names with PIL either. I can't believe it.

Stoat thinking of you today.

you ladies are so amazingly strong.

stoat in particular, thinking of you today.

I had another weird dream last night. I can't remember it clearly, but it was a horrid dream - there was lots of arguing in it. I kept waking up in the night but every time I fell back asleep in fell back into the from again. :-( tummy cramps this morning again too.

Love and cake to stoat, lil and honey, and anyone else having a difficult time. It's not bloody fair. I do love the idea of having jewellery or something to remember the little ones by. And oh honey, what an upsetting coincidence. :( FWIW one of my schoolfriends did have the same name as one of her cousins and no one in the family minded about it - it's not impossible to do, if you still wanted to.

Well viroids, like a twonk I have pissed early (12 dpo today) and think I have got what is starting to feel like the inevitable faint BFP. I will try and take a photo but amn't even sure if it's visible enough for my phone camera to pick up. I can't believe in it, I am convinced it will be gone again by Monday. DH rolling his eyes at me - if it was him he wouldn't want to know, but I do, even if they're not going to stick - I want to know they were here. And since I symptom-spot like a loon (especially since me and DH apparently fertilise an egg in half the cycles we TTC), I would always be wondering whether any given period was another chemical anyway.

Ooh pig, post a picture, we could use a bit of ridiculous line spotting to cheer us Viroids up!

Wow congrats pig

stoat you are in my thoughts today. Be strong x

lil did you manage to get the blood test brought forward

I have a picture! I can't seem to get a very clear one though, it is pretty clear in real life - a little pale pink rectangle. I was doubtful when I was trying to be quick and stealthy this morning (it's an adventure trying to secretly POAS while getting small child ready for ballet) but having put my glasses on am now sure of it.

I see it! More sticks! More pictures!

I see it! A line is a line is a line! Ooh! I know you'll be a bit apprehensive but tentative congratulations pig...

Ha ha loving the annotations pig! A tentative congratulations to you, more pissing on sticks please.

Stoat , thinking of you and hoping that it is all over now xx

There's definitely something there pig! Congratulations! Gx for a sticky bean!

It's so hard reading back over the last days Fred. I know I was only 5 weeks when I had my mc (and had stupidly faint lines throughout) but I still feel all those things. Some people just brush it off and I've had one of my closest friends say 'but it's not a real miscarriage is it, do they actually class it as that?' she's not got any children nor has she tried yet so I let her off with a firm yes it is but it hurt.

The necklace is lovely lil my Internet was terrible yesterday so I tried to post but it wouldn't send but I was going to suggest something like that.

Honey it's really shit about the name, really shit. But they didn't know so it's just crazy bad luck. The child you have in the future though will still be yours, whatever you call it. You will love it just the same and you will come to forget you ever wanted to call them anything different because they will suit whatever name you choose for them perfectly! I know this is more to do with the child you lost rather than the name but look positively to the future with it. A lot of my favourite names have been used by family, hated it at the time but I've thought of new ones I now love more!

Thinking of you stoat

Ooh Pig! What great timing!

I see a line pig congrats

I think I see a line too pig

I poas this morning again too.. tut tut. its now 10 dpo IF all of the stuff last week was ovulation. I'm staring at the stick trying to see if I am making out a line or not.. I think I'm making it up and I need a hooyah!!!!

ainmassive hooyah! You know the rules girl! Give it a few more days.

Hooya ain! Far too early :)

Candy that's mean of them. From bfp you see it as a baby so of course you've every right to grieve!

Thank you jelly and la I really need it. What's with me being all crazy this week???