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Immune / natural killer cell treatment when ttc or pregnant (aka the 15th pred thread)

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sunnyday01 · 06/02/2015 20:10

This is a thread for those diagnosed with high or very high natural killer cells and trying to concieve or are pregnant and taking steroids/intralipids etc

Newcomers very welcome

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Rosa27 · 14/02/2015 09:41

Sorry Snoppy to read about the stress and heartache you're going through.. Everything x for you today.

Hi everyone else. Dildoos I'm sure your very right about our attitudes and the depth of what we do and will value because of everything we have been and are going through. Hopefully this makes it a silver lining.

My cycle was almost a week longer than usual. No idea what was going on but CD1 was painful. Anyway CD2 and should take letrozolle and get to Boots to order ovitrelle for SO. Does anyone know if it matters when I take letrozolle - morning ? Before or after food? I'm due to see Mr S for a scan on what will now be day 11 and possibly too early for a cycle that's got so long so not sure what to do... Will see what they recommend.
Hope this weekend is a nice one for everyone and Snoopy that there's better news than you expect. Take care c

Rosa27 · 14/02/2015 09:41

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Hula2 · 14/02/2015 10:05

Snoopy - so sorry you are having this stress. The limbo is the hardest part. Keeping everything crossed for you.

Hi everyone else.

Good luck with you re appt with dr s seeking, hope you get some answers.

I will second everything people have aaid about appreciating things once you finally have your little one. It took two long hards years to conceive my son and i believe it does make you parent differently. He s never been a great sleeper (still wakes twice a night at 3.5) but while friends said you should try sleep training/ cry it out i could never do that as felt it s a natural part of being a young child to need a parent at night. We co slept alot from when he was a baby, which i still treasure and all tho the sleep deprivation can get hard knowing the battle i had to have him (and that other people are going thru to have their LOs) helps me welcome it with open arms !

Stay strong ladies it WILL happen.

Afm - af arrived yesterday but staying positive, new cycle, new hope.

Hula2 · 14/02/2015 10:11

Hi Rosa,

Just checked the schedule dr s gave me about SO and it says take Letrozole in the morning (didn t specify about whether with food).

Re the scan prob better to have it early than assume later and miss the right timing. Also it may be different as you re medicating ?

Hula2 · 14/02/2015 10:16

Just found a data sheet online, says can take either with or without food.

Rosa27 · 14/02/2015 10:23

Thanks Hula. I guess it's still morning might take now. Had just seen online that some take at night as can give you headaches etc. I will go with what Mr S said. Thanks again.

Snoopysimaginaryfriend · 14/02/2015 11:36

Still bleeding dildoos.

It's just hard to make the decision about when you need help. Do I wait for it to happen again? I don't know

dildoos · 14/02/2015 14:29

Snoopy I think Louise is usually very helpful to talk too. She can give you advice. She has called me at 9 at night before now Smile x

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sunnyday01 · 14/02/2015 15:23

Hi everyone! Sorry I have been AWOL, work has been busy plus I'm just sitting it out waiting for AF to arrive so I can get cracking again next month (although not wanting it to happen too quickly as need to be on the hydroxy for. 6 weeks before trying!)

Rosa - I took the letrazole with my other vitamins etc in the morning with breakfast. I never suffered headaches but the first month I did get hot flushes! Re scan timing - the first few months I had scan on day 11 and was fine as didn't do injection until day 13/14, in the later months when I was responding better I had to have scan day 10 ir11 as I was injecting on day 11 typically. I found doing SO shortened my cycle ( not by lots ) and it wax always 27/8 days on SO.

Sorry to hear about your bleeding snoopy, will keep you in my thoughts. It's do hard all f this but hopefully we can provide you with some support x

Welcome seeking - I echo what the others said mr s first appt for me was £2,500 with all the blood tests also had a scan to check for PCOS. In my opinion it was well worth it as the nhs only did the basic blood clothing tests for me and told ne to go away.

Hope everyone else is ok xx

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dildoos · 14/02/2015 16:09

Hey sunny, hope your lookig after yourself. X

Tryingno1 · 15/02/2015 17:56

Hey girls!
How r u all? Hope u had a good valentines!
Got my scan and HSG tmrw I hope they go ok. I'm used to bad news these days so feeling a bit anxious.
Has a lovely day in London though and forgot about it all, eaten my weight in good though! Was nice visiting some Of the places me and DH used to hang out before all this started.
Rosa hope ur going ok with SO.
Hula sorry af came but also glad ur cycle is behaving.
Dildoos hope ur feeling like ur out of the fog and ready to decide which way to head. Are u gonna see mr s?

I'm not going to take the pred this
Month I don't think....I've always been happy to take it from bFp but weary before for some reason. I know in the ivf world the do it embryo transfer so I suppose it's similar timing to mr s plan. Oh confusion every month!

Waves to others x

Snoopysimaginaryfriend · 15/02/2015 18:12

The bleeding is lighter. My cervix is closed but it seems to have been the whole time (probably just the progesterone) I haven't really had any pain (had more twinges in the early weeks of mmc which I oresumed were just normal) I don't really know what to do. Obviously the gp surgery is closed.

Fuck knows what's going to happen to my cycle this time. Can't get lucky three times and get pregnant quickly can I ( if I can call this lucky).

On a positive note I'm back on my green smoothies and I bought something called bioglan supergreens to add to them, figured it won't do any harm. I think they helped me conceive quickly and zita west was banging on about eating for fertility this week.

DH has already decided we will try again but seems reluctant to discuss any further tests. I'm not really sure what I think. What made you all decide to just go for it?

Wow that's a long post. I know I don't really belong on this thread but thank you all for your support.

Tryingno1 · 15/02/2015 18:25

Hi snoopy. Sorry ur stil bleeding.

It's hard to make the call. I went to nhs testing after 2-kinda cried my way in! And then mr s after 3. U have to balance the stress of tests and tx with knowing that after 2 miscarriages ur risk of a third is no higher at all. Only very few sadly up with 3 in a row. And also most the time no cause is found by nhs testing. It's something u and DH need to really think about.

I'm on the green smoothies too! Well from tmrw this London trip has been a bit carb and cake heavy!

I know wot u mean about getting preg. I'm similar age to u (now 30) and I did have 3 quick pregnancies. So it is possible to keep falling preg! It's taking me longer this time, I don't know if its the stress of it all, or it's just how nature sometimes is.

Snoopysimaginaryfriend · 15/02/2015 18:28

Hopefully it's your body making an extra super strong egg this time!

Tryingno1 · 15/02/2015 18:42

If only!

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sunnyday01 · 16/02/2015 07:41

Good luck with your appointment today trying, will be thinking of you.

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Tryingno1 · 16/02/2015 09:07

Thanks sunny. Eek!

Tryingno1 · 16/02/2015 15:07

All went well! HSG was clear and uss was normal. So no idea why it's taking longer! Hope it happens soon! He did suggest ivf for me rather than SO if it didn't happen in a few
Months....lets see! Am going o try relax now!

Determined how r u-u been quiet hope ur ok

Thinking of u all x

Hula2 · 16/02/2015 20:08

Great news Trying !

dildoos · 16/02/2015 20:22

Woohoo trying! Thank you for sharing your news and so happy it went well! How do you feel about Ivf route? X

Tryingno1 · 16/02/2015 20:36

I'm not sure dildoos. I'm secretly
Hoping that I won't have to go that way And I'll get preg in the next few months. However come summer, if no luck yes I'll go to ivf. I'm feeling much better about it in general I was pretty pissed off and shocked when I thought it was a maybe, but now it doesn't seem so bad. I don't want to be waiting around for another year until I get preg, then miscarry again and wait another 1/2 years.
I'm still confused as to how I had 3 such quick pregnancies.
He did say I'm still in the realm
Of normality and my other pregnancies were unusually quick, (well 2 Of them) so maybe now my body is being more normal?! Who knows!

How r u dildoos?
Hula when u seeing mr s?

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sunnyday01 · 16/02/2015 20:59

Wow that's fab trying, so pleased for you. I think you shoukd speak to dr s, he may recommend trying SO before going down the ivf route.

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Tryingno1 · 16/02/2015 21:18

Yeah I've spoken to him. He does recommend SO. It appears there are 2 groups of docs out there

Those who think if u r ovulating there's no point doing SO as u just increase ur risk of twins/triplets and mess around with drugs etc, ovarian hyperstimulation risk etc. (the consultant today and my dad belong to this group)

then those who think SO will increase ur chance of sperm hitting bullseye (mr s belongs to this one!)

I'm going to try forget both for a few months and then in may will start ivf route referral or SO. One thing that temps me with ivf is doing it with PGD so they put a normal chromosome one back-if I did SO and miscarried and had it tested and it was chromosomes that would be shit luck...I'm not sure but then ivf rates are no better for miscarriage

Complex! Please I hope I don't have to think about either! I don't know why SO doesn't fill me with confidence?! But then u got preg on it as did determined. I just have some hang up. I'll look into it more!

Tryingno1 · 16/02/2015 21:19

Ps had a look online and there is again these 2 group of docs out there some who give SO and some who don't (for women normally ovulating) . Confusing!

Tryingno1 · 16/02/2015 21:35

Also DH has finally got an appt to get his sperm checked! Finally!